Were the assassinations of R.F.K, and J.F.K ultimately good things?

Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

Here's how it works. The left wing dirty tricksters post a provocative opinion regarding the murder of American politicians and when they don't get much support they invent opinions that they classify as "ultra right idiots". The fact that Lee Oswald was a left winger and Sirhan was a left winger doesn't enter into their empty heads. I guess anything is better than talking about real issues.

The real issue here on this thread is a question, was/is America better for their deaths? I say no, certain conservative sleezebags seem to think yes. I have certain opinions on who killed them and why that really do not match the official accounts but thank god that is not the topic at hand.
 
Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

Here's how it works. The left wing dirty tricksters post a provocative opinion regarding the murder of American politicians and when they don't get much support they invent opinions that they classify as "ultra right idiots". The fact that Lee Oswald was a left winger and Sirhan was a left winger doesn't enter into their empty heads. I guess anything is better than talking about real issues.

Wait a second when I said ultra right idiots talking about the op. Killing a man is just sick you don't solve anything. Just selfish in the moment satisfaction. If you want to talk prison with me let's go..
Better to let them rot and know what they did. Then kill them.
 
Nixon was far from our worse president. Yes, he did a very stupid thing with Watergate but in reality it didn't effect anyone other then those who were involved. He did the right thing and stepped down unlike some that should have and actually did hurt the country.

The break in at the Democratic National Headquarters in the Watergate Hotel was just the tip of the Ice Berg. It led to Nixon's Plumbers and a million dollar slush fund to finance their many illegal deeds. Then he used the power of the Presidency illegally to cover-up their crimes. But he still wasn't the most corrupt. At least in modern times that honor goes to Raygun.
 
You can't change history no matter how the left wing media tries to spin it. Ultra left idiots killed the Kennedy brothers.
 
Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war
 
Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war

Yea right JFK was not the complete opposite of Goldwater. Goldwater just voted against the second civil rights bill on the value's of the constitution and states rights.
 
Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war

Yea right JFK was not the complete opposite of Goldwater. Goldwater just voted against the second civil rights bill on the value's of the constitution and states rights.

Goldwater was unelectable regardless of who ran against him. There was nothing that happened in 1964 that would have impacted JFKs chances at reelection
 
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The one good thing like a thread like this you can weed out the partisian hack's. With all their faults JFK and Bobby were real good. We will never see that type of leader's again. . I am afraid
 
JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war

Yea right JFK was not the complete opposite of Goldwater. Goldwater just voted against the second civil rights bill on the value's of the constitution and states rights.

Goldwater was unelectable regardless of who ran against him. There was nothing that happened in 1964 that would have impacted JFKs chances at reelection
yea I know I wouldn't have voted for him but he got a bad reputation in the history book's
 
Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

I don't think assassinations are a good thing. That said, it is a good question to think what if they had lived and served as Presidents. Better yet, if they were alive today.....JFK would be an outcast in the Democratic Party while Bobby would be fully embraced.

Exactly, you only need to look at Crazy Ted to figure out how those two would have ended up.
 
Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

No.

JFK - in particular - was beginning to rebel against the establishment towards the latter end of his Presidency. One example is that he was making moves to eventually disband the Federal Reserve, which is arguably one of the most centralizing "governmental" institutions in existence today. I believe JFK - at the core - was a good person and his independent thinking was what ultimately got He him killed.

And who was the alternative? LBJ? Nixon?

J.F.K was sympathetic to the enemies of America, and gave FAR too much support to the labor & civil rights movements.
Nixon had proven later that he was too left wing for America as well. A Barry Goldwater presidency would have been the best outcome.

You only have to look at the socialists Robert Kennedy, and Ted Kennedy to look at the mess that would have been J.F.K's presidency.


There is another thread going that asks the question; what is wrong with America?
This thread answers that question. America has some fucked up people in it like those of you saying the assassination of a president is a good thing. People that believe shit like that is what's wrong in this country. Stupidity is what's wrong. Good god.
 
Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

Here's how it works. The left wing dirty tricksters post a provocative opinion regarding the murder of American politicians and when they don't get much support they invent opinions that they classify as "ultra right idiots". The fact that Lee Oswald was a left winger and Sirhan was a left winger doesn't enter into their empty heads. I guess anything is better than talking about real issues.

Bullshit.

Sirhan Sirhan, "left winger"? :link:

And wtf does Lee Oswald have to do with the JFK event?

Wacko.
 
No, these assassinations were not good things. Its a horrible thing to even consider such an idea.
 
JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war

Yea right JFK was not the complete opposite of Goldwater. Goldwater just voted against the second civil rights bill on the value's of the constitution and states rights.

Goldwater was unelectable regardless of who ran against him. There was nothing that happened in 1964 that would have impacted JFKs chances at reelection

Goldwater lost the way he lost because he was a true conservative. His unpopularity was representative of the unpopularity of true conservatives -

then, now, and forever.
 
"event"; what does that even mean to the topic?

You are are a paid hack,; you just gave it away.
 
Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war
He got us in.

How the hell would he get us out when it was his idea?


seriously people, this is HS American history class
 
Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

JFK would have had no problem beating Goldwater. He was the complete opposite of JFK....old and conservative

Nobody knows what JFK would have done in VietNam. With Cold War hysteria it would have been hard to stay out. It is hard to say if JFK would have the balls not to escalate the war
He got us in.

How the hell would he get us out when it was his idea?


seriously people, this is HS American history class

You really serious that nam' started in the in the JFK year's?
 
Go back and read history on the Korean war and nam' follow the yellow brick road it was the French .
 

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