WE'VE LOST OUR F'G MINDS: Toddlers appear in IMMIGRATION court ALONE in diapers

[Pete7469]

What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

I vehemently disagree.

The people who trekked up here across central America, knowing the US Government was going to enforce our laws, and attempted to defy the law put their own kids at risk not just during the trip, but as a result of their actions they could be detained if not raped, kidnapped or murdered by human traffickers.

One of the most disgusting aspects to this entire issue is how these illegal invaders admit they spend THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to cross the border, after leaving a country where that sort of money is a couple years salary....

These "poor" people have a couple extra years salary on hand saved up for a trip like that?

The fault of this lies squarely at the feet of the assholes who tried to sneak into the country and now are exploiting the plight of their children suffering because of the actions of the people who are supposed to care about them. Looks like YOU give a shit about these kids more than anyone else does.

That's because you're being manipulated by media.


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[Moonglow]

You’d rather leave the kid in a detention center?

Make up your mind.

No, we’d rather see the family unit intact.

Then stop them at the border .

Once on US soil all law demands due process.

And they’re getting it.

I’ll say.

 

[OldLady]

It was definitely Trump's fault on this one. No question.

How?

Trump dragged a kid that wasn't his across a fucking desert and placed them at the mercy of the government?

What an asshole...

Oh wait...



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What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

Yes. As a matter of fact; you can, and must blame those coming here illegally; if you hope to maintain any integrity.

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

 

[Moonglow]

What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

I vehemently disagree.

The people who trekked up here across central America, knowing the US Government was going to enforce our laws, and attempted to defy the law put their own kids at risk not just during the trip, but as a result of their actions they could be detained if not raped, kidnapped or murdered by human traffickers.

One of the most disgusting aspects to this entire issue is how these illegal invaders admit they spend THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to cross the border, after leaving a country where that sort of money is a couple years salary....

These "poor" people have a couple extra years salary on hand saved up for a trip like that?

The fault of this lies squarely at the feet of the assholes who tried to sneak into the country and now are exploiting the plight of their children suffering because of the actions of the people who are supposed to care about them. Looks like YOU give a shit about these kids more than anyone else does.

That's because you're being manipulated by media.


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You have to be manipulated by the media to have empathy? Where is yours? Or is tough love all you have?

 

[OldLady]

What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

I vehemently disagree.

The people who trekked up here across central America, knowing the US Government was going to enforce our laws, and attempted to defy the law put their own kids at risk not just during the trip, but as a result of their actions they could be detained if not raped, kidnapped or murdered by human traffickers.

One of the most disgusting aspects to this entire issue is how these illegal invaders admit they spend THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to cross the border, after leaving a country where that sort of money is a couple years salary....

These "poor" people have a couple extra years salary on hand saved up for a trip like that?

The fault of this lies squarely at the feet of the assholes who tried to sneak into the country and now are exploiting the plight of their children suffering because of the actions of the people who are supposed to care about them. Looks like YOU give a shit about these kids more than anyone else does.

That's because you're being manipulated by media.


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I am not being manipulated by media, honest. But that is another of the catchall excuses you guys use to dismiss any objections. I see things differently. It doesn't make my underlying facts wrong.

 

[Moonglow]

Until the laws are changed there is no way to stop the flow of illegals, and the laws we made with the support of both parties.

 

[bodecea]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

I reiterate, WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Those drooling trumpanzees who don't care about this have been successfully groomed to accept all sorts of outrages. "I really don't care, Do U?" is a goal.

 

[Vastator]

It was definitely Trump's fault on this one. No question.

How?

Trump dragged a kid that wasn't his across a fucking desert and placed them at the mercy of the government?

What an asshole...

Oh wait...



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What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

Yes. As a matter of fact; you can, and must blame those coming here illegally; if you hope to maintain any integrity.

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

Poor decision is open to debate. And unless youre in the trenches, and intimately know the tools at your disposal, for handling said engagement...; You're merely armchair quarterbacking. As far as I'm concerned Trump is handling the situation quite well given the equipment the Democrats left on the battlefield.
With the exception of his executive order to stray from what the law says. I find it to be illegal, and hope it gets struck down.

 

[Pete7469]

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

You blame the parents who have kids in foster care when they rob a bank don't you?

Or do you blame the state for enforcing the law?


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[mudwhistle]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

California Judge does something stupid.....blames Trump.

It was definitely Trump's fault on this one. No question.

Even though it's the judges ruling and a law that has been in effect for over 20 years,.......so it has to be Trump’s fault.

 

[mudwhistle]

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

You blame the parents who have kids in foster care when they rob a bank don't you?

Or do you blame the state for enforcing the law?


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Blame Trump.

 

[OldLady]

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

You blame the parents who have kids in foster care when they rob a bank don't you?

Or do you blame the state for enforcing the law?


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Pete, you're looking at the other end of the problem. We HAVE these people coming here, regardless of how much you tsk tsk them. The Pres did not take into account the consequences of his decision, and it was more than obvious what would happen when he asked for a zero tolerance policy. He blew it.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

We need to immediately reunite these families.....on a southbound bus in Mexico.

Hey genius!! How the fuck do you know IF THE KID IS MEXICAN? Just dump his diapered little ass across 'any' border?

Did they come through Mexico to get here?

Of course they did, so the parents of the child can go back through Mexico to their home country if they are not Mexican...

 

[Pete7469]

Pete, you're looking at the other end of the problem. We HAVE these people coming here, regardless of how much you tsk tsk them. The Pres did not take into account the consequences of his decision, and it was more than obvious what would happen when he asked for a zero tolerance policy. He blew it.

Using that logic we should open all the bank vaults to the public because we know there are people who want to rob them.


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[Bruce_T_Laney]

We have to deal with the situation before us. You don't blame the enemy when a General blows an engagement. You blame the General who made the poor decision.

You blame the parents who have kids in foster care when they rob a bank don't you?

Or do you blame the state for enforcing the law?


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Pete, you're looking at the other end of the problem. We HAVE these people coming here, regardless of how much you tsk tsk them. The Pres did not take into account the consequences of his decision, and it was more than obvious what would happen when he asked for a zero tolerance policy. He blew it.

The parents already knew that there is zero tolerance, and yet attempted to enter illegally.

Note I wrote illegally, so before you write they are refugees, well if they are then head to a port of entry and file for Asylum.

Now as you blame Trump for the laws that he has to use, well maybe you should ask why on Earth would Congress pass such harsh laws that allow parents to be separated from theie children?

Also if you release them or allow them to slip into this country let be factual and admit they will become slaves to the Cartels, Gangs anf shady employers while their kids live in fear daily of being deported back to their country of origin.

Finally, Mexico is to blame for this and you will ask how and simple they have immigration laws they refuse to enforce and allow the Southern Border of this country to be flooded with people from Central America so they can illegally cross our border.

So blame the Parent and Mexico and maybe it is about time Mexico clean itself up and stop illegals from Central America crossing their country to get to America...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

We need to immediately reunite these families.....on a southbound bus in Mexico.

Hey genius!! How the fuck do you know IF THE KID IS MEXICAN? Just dump his diapered little ass across 'any' border?

Don't give a shit if they're Mexican.
The bus they should be on is going south.

 

[mudwhistle]

What he did was change a policy/procedure of "catch and release" without having all the agencies involved figure out BEFOREHAND how to accommodate the obvious crowd that was going to ensue in detention facilities. It became not only outrageously inhumane to the children, it was chaotic and disorganized and pretty obvious that no one knew what to do.

Trump is the one who made this change without doing the necessary work beforehand. You can blame the folks coming up here all you want; that was not the problem, though. It was Trump making a simplistic fiat about a very complex problem involving several agencies.

I vehemently disagree.

The people who trekked up here across central America, knowing the US Government was going to enforce our laws, and attempted to defy the law put their own kids at risk not just during the trip, but as a result of their actions they could be detained if not raped, kidnapped or murdered by human traffickers.

One of the most disgusting aspects to this entire issue is how these illegal invaders admit they spend THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to cross the border, after leaving a country where that sort of money is a couple years salary....

These "poor" people have a couple extra years salary on hand saved up for a trip like that?

The fault of this lies squarely at the feet of the assholes who tried to sneak into the country and now are exploiting the plight of their children suffering because of the actions of the people who are supposed to care about them. Looks like YOU give a shit about these kids more than anyone else does.

That's because you're being manipulated by media.


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I am not being manipulated by media, honest. But that is another of the catchall excuses you guys use to dismiss any objections. I see things differently. It doesn't make my underlying facts wrong.

Aside from the fact that you're parroting what the media says, nobody is manipulating you one bit.

 

[centerleftFL]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

I reiterate, WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Who gives a fuck about illegal aliens...

Well apparently, NOT you or those of like minds.

 

[kwc57]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

I reiterate, WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

All by design to shut down immigration law and open the borders. Next will be a movement.....already under way.....to say that anyone "resident" in the US has the right to vote. The nation as you've known it will eventually cease to exist because the left want to destroy it. They think this is Star Trek,

 

[kwc57]

WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS. Come ON PEOPLE! HOW? WHY? How is this even done? Your client crawls up in the middle of the table while you are trying to decide his deportation proceedings? Is the judge going to hold the toddler in contempt of court?

I reiterate, WE HAVE LOST OUR FUCKING MINDS!

Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Christina Jewett and Shefali Luthra, Kaiser Health NewsPublished 3:34 p.m. ET June 27, 2018 | Updated 3:47 p.m. ET June 27, 2018

A judge in California on Tuesday ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days, setting a hard deadline in a process that has so far yielded uncertainty about when children might again see their parents. Time

As the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.

Requiring unaccompanied minors to go through deportation alone is not a new practice. But in the wake of the Trump administration’s controversial family separation policy, more young children – including toddlers – are being affected than in the past.

The 2,000-plus children will likely need to deal with court proceedings even as they grapple with the ongoing trauma of being taken from their parents.

“We were representing a 3-year-old in court recently who had been separated from the parents. And the child – in the middle of the hearing – started climbing up on the table,” said Lindsay Toczylowski, executive director of Immigrant Defenders Law Center in Los Angeles. “It really highlighted the absurdity of what we’re doing with these kids.”

More: Judge orders families separated at border be reunited within 30 days

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees the deportations of unauthorized immigrants, did not respond to a request for comment.

Woczylowski said parents typically have been tried along with young children and have explained the often-violent circumstances that led them to seek asylum in the U.S....


Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

Are suggesting minors don’t deserve representation?

Doesn't REPRESENTATION denote consciousness of action for ACTUAL representation? WE BEHAVED BADLY--WE put these kids in legal jeopardy and now limbo. WE created absurd CONSEQUENCES. WE have now come up with some half-assed INSANE wholly inadequate fix furthering the absurdity of what WE created.

Some of us other WE's are pointing the absurdity and the insanity! And WE will continue to do so.

Seriously? LOL I break into your house, you call the cops, I go to jail and YOU'RE responsible for behaving badly and creating the bad consequence I find myself in? That's your premise? Are you retarded?