what a waste!

[GISMYS]

Maybe you do. I don't.

that is the problem. You do, you just don't realize it. One day you will, and you will wish you had acknowledged it earlier.

Not hardly pilgrim. The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.

Not my kind of guy. (or girl, or it)

BOTTOMLINE = YOU DON'T KNOW GOD. HOW COULD A little man think that he can judge GOD?? BEST YOU WISE UP FAST,TIME IS SHORT BUT ETERNITY IS A VERY,VERY LONG TIME!!

 

[Smilebong]

Maybe you do. I don't.

that is the problem. You do, you just don't realize it. One day you will, and you will wish you had acknowledged it earlier.

Not hardly pilgrim. The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.

Not my kind of guy. (or girl, or it)

Interesting caricature. It is totally wrong. God is wrathful, angry, and yet at the same time loving, kind, patient, longsuffering. He is infinite and so he can be all of tose things at once. He is waiting for you to call out to him.

 

[BreezeWood]

that is the problem. You do, you just don't realize it. One day you will, and you will wish you had acknowledged it earlier.

Not hardly pilgrim. The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.

Not my kind of guy. (or girl, or it)

Interesting caricature. It is totally wrong. God is wrathful, angry, and yet at the same time loving, kind, patient, longsuffering. He is infinite and so he can be all of tose things at once. He is waiting for you to call out to him.

onecut39: If we are the product of a superior being, designed by a do any thing kind of guy, that design is incredibly bad.

39: If we are the product of a superior being - The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.


so, is your "If" subject only to the deity of the Mideastern scriptural religion(s) ? -

because otherwise the reasoning for the design might have endless possibilities, or you simply do not believe there is any designer at all ?

.

 

[onecut39]

Not hardly pilgrim. The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.

Not my kind of guy. (or girl, or it)

Interesting caricature. It is totally wrong. God is wrathful, angry, and yet at the same time loving, kind, patient, longsuffering. He is infinite and so he can be all of tose things at once. He is waiting for you to call out to him.

onecut39: If we are the product of a superior being, designed by a do any thing kind of guy, that design is incredibly bad.

39: If we are the product of a superior being - The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.


so, is your "If" subject only to the deity of the Mideastern scriptural religion(s) ? -

because otherwise the reasoning for the design might have endless possibilities, or you simply do not believe there is any designer at all ?

.

Got it right. Don't believe there was a designer. Certainly no "supreme being" Too many screw ups for that.

But of course that was said in the original post.

 

[onecut39]

that is the problem. You do, you just don't realize it. One day you will, and you will wish you had acknowledged it earlier.

Not hardly pilgrim. The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.

Not my kind of guy. (or girl, or it)

Interesting caricature. It is totally wrong. God is wrathful, angry, and yet at the same time loving, kind, patient, longsuffering. He is infinite and so he can be all of tose things at once. He is waiting for you to call out to him.

Hope he has a lot of time.

 

[onecut39]

And yet look at all of the things that He had to make sure were perfect for mankind to exist. What tilt would you angle us at? And what speed would you have us turning at? How far away would you place our heat and energy source? There's that darn gravity
thing.

I too, would like to see your competing design. And not an improvement of His tired old inadequate design, with skin that closes and a cooling system, waste removal system, DNA identifiable system, vulnerable heart, lung, brain arrangement, 4 dimension living model. A whole new design should be in order.
And then breath your life into it and show us what you made?

His ways, His thoughts are much higher than ours. For now you have everything you need for this vapor, this short portion of your life. What you do here merely determines what you do next. You are a work in progress.
eg > Spiritual eyes can see much more than human eyes can. Human eyes are a blessing, for now. If we actually saw the powers and principalities at war with us, we'd never get out from under the bed.

Let us hope you are correct because the way we stand there is a whole lot to be desired.

BEFORE mankind chose to reject GOD and live in sin there was no sickness pain or death,it is man's sin that brought ruin to all creation,even the earth groans under the load of mankind's sin. JESUS is returning soon and HE will re-new creation back to perfection for eternity!!

YOu know Jesus was A JEWISH MESSIAH (one of hundreds) and he preached the coming of the lord IN HIS LIFETIME.

I guess there is something to be said for not giving up even though you have no clue and have been wrong for the past 2000 years.

 

[BreezeWood]

Interesting caricature. It is totally wrong. God is wrathful, angry, and yet at the same time loving, kind, patient, longsuffering. He is infinite and so he can be all of tose things at once. He is waiting for you to call out to him.

onecut39: If we are the product of a superior being, designed by a do any thing kind of guy, that design is incredibly bad.

39: If we are the product of a superior being - The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.


so, is your "If" subject only to the deity of the Mideastern scriptural religion(s) ? -

because otherwise the reasoning for the design might have endless possibilities, or you simply do not believe there is any designer at all ?

.

Got it right. Don't believe there was a designer. Certainly no "supreme being" Too many screw ups for that.

But of course that was said in the original post.

onecut39: Another conundrum. How does a perfect, all knowing, do anything kind of guy create imperfection?

again you are referring to the Desert God and not a supreme designer ... you should make up your mind whatever you are talking about -

the Desert God is vein, no one comes before that deity as a possible explanation for the design "flaws", deliberate imperfections you do not understand.

a supreme designer is not being discussed by you.
.

 

[onecut39]

39: If we are the product of a superior being - The "supreme being" as presented in religious dogma is alternately, cruel, petty, jealous and inept.


so, is your "If" subject only to the deity of the Mideastern scriptural religion(s) ? -

because otherwise the reasoning for the design might have endless possibilities, or you simply do not believe there is any designer at all ?

.

Got it right. Don't believe there was a designer. Certainly no "supreme being" Too many screw ups for that.

But of course that was said in the original post.

onecut39: Another conundrum. How does a perfect, all knowing, do anything kind of guy create imperfection?

again you are referring to the Desert God and not a supreme designer ... you should make up your mind whatever you are talking about -

the Desert God is vein, no one comes before that deity as a possible explanation for the design "flaws", deliberate imperfections you do not understand.

a supreme designer is not being discussed by you.
.[/QUOTE

Desert God? Supreme designer? Distinctions without differences! Deliberate imperfections? Oxymoron!

Through this whole thread the god lovers have never tried to explain the obvious imperfections. They make excuses. The rationalize. They ascribe it to wisdom beyond their ken, they hint at grand designs that never play out, they adhere to religious myths and legends but never do they try to explain it rationally. Why? Because they cannot.

Evolution explains it all. Religion explains nothing. Religion is a cloak for ignorance.

The definition of faith is a belief in something where there is no objective proof. They do not call religion faith for nothing.

 

[GISMYS]

Got it right. Don't believe there was a designer. Certainly no "supreme being" Too many screw ups for that.

But of course that was said in the original post.

onecut39: Another conundrum. How does a perfect, all knowing, do anything kind of guy create imperfection?

again you are referring to the Desert God and not a supreme designer ... you should make up your mind whatever you are talking about -

the Desert God is vein, no one comes before that deity as a possible explanation for the design "flaws", deliberate imperfections you do not understand.

a supreme designer is not being discussed by you.
.[/QUOTE

Desert God? Supreme designer? Distinctions without differences! Deliberate imperfections? Oxymoron!

Through this whole thread the god lovers have never tried to explain the obvious imperfections. They make excuses. The rationalize. They ascribe it to wisdom beyond their ken, they hint at grand designs that never play out, they adhere to religious myths and legends but never do they try to explain it rationally. Why? Because they cannot.

Evolution explains it all. Religion explains nothing. Religion is a cloak for ignorance.

The definition of faith is a belief in something where there is no objective proof. They do not call religion faith for nothing.

YES!!! little man KNOW IT IS ALMIGHTY GOD that makes the rules not you!!! GOD says man without faith CANNOT please GOD!!! BEST you learn your place in GOD'S creation!!!

 

[onecut39]

again you are referring to the Desert God and not a supreme designer ... you should make up your mind whatever you are talking about -

the Desert God is vein, no one comes before that deity as a possible explanation for the design "flaws", deliberate imperfections you do not understand.

a supreme designer is not being discussed by you.
.[/QUOTE

Desert God? Supreme designer? Distinctions without differences! Deliberate imperfections? Oxymoron!

Through this whole thread the god lovers have never tried to explain the obvious imperfections. They make excuses. The rationalize. They ascribe it to wisdom beyond their ken, they hint at grand designs that never play out, they adhere to religious myths and legends but never do they try to explain it rationally. Why? Because they cannot.

Evolution explains it all. Religion explains nothing. Religion is a cloak for ignorance.

The definition of faith is a belief in something where there is no objective proof. They do not call religion faith for nothing.

YES!!! little man KNOW IT IS ALMIGHTY GOD that makes the rules not you!!! GOD says man without faith CANNOT please GOD!!! BEST you learn your place in GOD'S creation!!!

I have no intention, or desire, to "please God".

 

[BreezeWood]

Desert God? Supreme designer? Distinctions without differences! Deliberate imperfections? Oxymoron!

Through this whole thread the god lovers have never tried to explain the obvious imperfections. They make excuses. The rationalize. They ascribe it to wisdom beyond their ken, they hint at grand designs that never play out, they adhere to religious myths and legends but never do they try to explain it rationally. Why? Because they cannot.

Evolution explains it all. Religion explains nothing. Religion is a cloak for ignorance.

The definition of faith is a belief in something where there is no objective proof. They do not call religion faith for nothing.

Evolution explains it all. Religion explains nothing. Religion is a cloak for ignorance.


there is plenty of room for both evolution and religion together to explain life in the universe.

evolution - life, without religion would be mindless, without Spirit.

.