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he died to his own good reason, he wasn't going to take it any longer, he but down the gaunlet and challenged the police, it was his own agressiveness that killed him. It had nothing to do with cigarettes or any other criminal behavior, he had had enough. It was as clear as day on the video. he spoke it, he spoke it.Cigarettes are a gateway crime? Many people do it to supplement whatever income they have. There's no correlation with committing other crimes. That's just prejudicial thinking that allows some people look down on others and feel better about someone getting killed for no good reason.What a load of crap. If he hadn't been illegally selling cigarettes,he would have been engaged in some other criminal enterprise.
So being a criminal is a respectful thing now?What did I say? It's giving you permission to look down on the guy, but NO you're not racist. I wasn't born yesterday. I know the score.Garner had a long criminal history, he wasn't just some innocent guy.Cigarettes are a gateway crime? Many people do it to supplement whatever income they have. There's no correlation with committing other crimes. That's just prejudicial thinking that allows some people look down on others and feel better about someone getting killed for no good reason.
Even that doesn't matter. They can arrest you for suspicion of anything. They can walk up to you and say you're being arrested for suspicion of murder and you gots to go.They went after him for violating his parole. It doesn't matter what he was doing.
He then did not comply with the officers as he was supposed to as a condition of his parole.
The fat fuck knew he was going back to prison and decided to resist arrest
Even that doesn't matter. They can arrest you for suspicion of anything. They can walk up to you and say you're being arrested for suspicion of murder and you gots to go.They went after him for violating his parole. It doesn't matter what he was doing.
He then did not comply with the officers as he was supposed to as a condition of his parole.
The fat fuck knew he was going back to prison and decided to resist arrest
Fort Worth Police Officer Arrested For Suspicion Of DWIEven that doesn't matter. They can arrest you for suspicion of anything. They can walk up to you and say you're being arrested for suspicion of murder and you gots to go.They went after him for violating his parole. It doesn't matter what he was doing.
He then did not comply with the officers as he was supposed to as a condition of his parole.
The fat fuck knew he was going back to prison and decided to resist arrest
Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.
And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")
WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?
Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.
In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.
In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.
Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.
Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.
NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.
Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.
But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".
And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.
NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.
Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.
An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.
Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.
Oops. Oh, well.
The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.
some more stupid I see. Ever hear of store owners, those who get licenses and pay taxes? They wanted him gone son!!!!!! that's why the cops were there. Can you all please just learn to investigate before posting stupid? Stop the stupid please!!!!!So, nobody's right were being violated. Nobody was being harmed. Nobody was even being threatened.From someone breaking the lawExactly what were they protecting the law-abiding public from in this case, Gyal?The police exist to protect and serve the law-abiding public
BTW, you have it slightly backward.
Laws exist to protect and serve the public.
Police exist to enforce the laws.
So, what was this particular law protecting us from?
Except, government was losing out on some cash.
The police did what they did, to protect government.
Does that seem like a proper law to you, Gyal?
Who told you people cannot be arrested on suspicion. You apparently have never heard of conspiracy.Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.
And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")
WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?
Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.
In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.
In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.
Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.
Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.
NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.
Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.
But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".
And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.
NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.
Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.
An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.
Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.
Oops. Oh, well.
The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.
And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.
Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.
Anything else is an unlawful arrest.
That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.
A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.
And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.
Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.
Anything else is an unlawful arrest.
That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.
A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.
Good lord. Why do you advocate the killing of the black female police officer?For those of you who think the selling of loose cigarettes' illegality is ridiculous,
doesn't that make the actions of the police even more reprehensible?
Please! when was the last time you heard of dead man accused of a crime?Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.
And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")
WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?
Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.
In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.
In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.
Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.
Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.
NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.
Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.
But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".
And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.
NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.
Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.
An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.
Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.
Oops. Oh, well.
The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.
It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.
He sentenced himself to death.And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.
Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.
Anything else is an unlawful arrest.
That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.
A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.
Wrong. There is no death penalty in NY for misdemeanor resisting arrest.
Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.
And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")
WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?
Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.
In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.
In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.
Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.
Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.
NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.
Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.
But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".
And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.
NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.
Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.
An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.
Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.
Oops. Oh, well.
The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.
I think he means detain anyone at any time. you do not have to go with them though if there is no probable cause. Geez, you all should know the laws of where you live. That is a shame.Technically no.
People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.
Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.
I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.
Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.
Anything else is an unlawful arrest.
That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.
A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.
more stupid. Please stop the stupid. this is soooooooo false.Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.
And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")
WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?
Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.
In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.
In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.
Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.
Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.
NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.
Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.
But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".
And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.
NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.
Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.
An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.
Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.
Oops. Oh, well.
The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.
It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.
We learned nothing from prohibition did we?
