What crime did Eric Garner commit, that made the NYPD go after him?

[sealybobo]

Sell 1 cigarette for 50 cents or even a buck!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Technically no.

People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.

Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.

I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.

Anything else is an unlawful arrest.

That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.

A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.

And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.

Wrong. There is no death penalty in NY for misdemeanor resisting arrest.

He sentenced himself to death.

I had to disappoint you, but the act you're putting on has a well worn history from a long parade of RWnuts on USMB.

Come up with some original if you're trying to entertain the goobers.

 

[jc456]

Technically no.

People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.

Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.

I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.

Anything else is an unlawful arrest.

That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.

A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.

And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.

wrong!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.

And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")

WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?

Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.

In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.

In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.

Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.

Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.

NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.

Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.

But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".

And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.

NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.

Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.

An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.

Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.

Oops. Oh, well.

The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.

It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.

Please! when was the last time you heard of dead man accused of a crime?

Read this:

By the Way It s Not Clear Eric Garner Even Had Illegal Cigarettes When He Was Killed The Daily Banter

and then come back and say something else stupid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

 

[jc456]

Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.

And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")

WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?

Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.

In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.

In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.

Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.

Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.

NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.

Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.

But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".

And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.

NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.

Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.

An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.

Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.

Oops. Oh, well.

The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.

It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.

Please! when was the last time you heard of dead man accused of a crime?

Read this:

By the Way It s Not Clear Eric Garner Even Had Illegal Cigarettes When He Was Killed The Daily Banter

and then come back and say something else stupid.

dude, do you even know what happened? The cigarettes have zero to do with what happened. Why are you so stupid?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.

And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")

WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?

Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.

In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.

In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.

Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.

Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.

NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.

Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.

But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".

And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.

NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.

Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.

An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.

Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.

Oops. Oh, well.

The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.

It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.

Please! when was the last time you heard of dead man accused of a crime?

Read this:

By the Way It s Not Clear Eric Garner Even Had Illegal Cigarettes When He Was Killed The Daily Banter

and then come back and say something else stupid.

dude, do you even know what happened? The cigarettes have zero to do with what happened. Why are you so stupid?

What's the topic of this thread, fuckwit?

 

[jc456]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

again, you have shown your stupidness once again. Learn something would you please.

 

[jc456]

Eric Garner was selling cigarettes.

And not even packs of them. Individual cigarettes. ("Loosies")

WTF? Why was he even doing that? And why was it a crime?

Answer: Because New York City had hugely increased TAXES on cigarettes. So much that the city had nearly tripled the price on them.

In a low-tax state like North Carolina, cigarettes can be bought for $5 a pack.

In New York City, the same cigarettes are anywhere from $11 to $15 a pack.

Garner's "crime"? He hadn't paid those extra taxes.

Unsurprisingly, NYC's crushing taxes created a huge black market. People like Eric Garner regularly drive down to North Carolina, load up on $5/pack cigarettes, come back to NYC, and sell them for "only" $8 or $9.

NYC's government had driven prices so artificially high, that Eric Garner even sold individual cigarettes. Because many people couldn't afford even a single, whole pack. Or he did, until NYC's police killed him.

Used to be, that government only made laws to protect people's rights. That was their whole job.

But more recently, big-government liberals have decided that government's job was to save people from their own mistakes, whether they were violating anybody else's rights or not. Places like New York City have gone so far off the rails, they even made laws against selling soft drinks that were "too large".

And they have a law that you are forbidden to sell a pack of cigarettes for under $10.50.

NYC Mayor DiBlasio issued an edict not long ago, telling NYPD cops to crack down on those terrifying hardened criminals who were selling individual cigarettes. The memo didn't mention exactly how those sellers were violating people's rights, or which rights were being violated. But the local government was missing out on some tax revenue (the taxes that tripled the price of cigarettes). And that could not be tolerated.

Garner had been busted for doing this, a number of times before. Of course, if the govt hadn't hiked taxes to such ridiculous levels, he probably would have never been busted for it at all. Nobody would have bothered to buy North Carolina cigarettes from him, so he never would have gone into business selling them in the first place.

An Obama official once remarked, "If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." The "eggs" that got "cracked" in that case were U.S. Border Patrol agents who were killed by Mexican drug cartels with gun illegally sold to them by the Obama administration.

Looks like another egg got cracked, this time in response to New York City government raising taxes on cigarettes, creating a whole new group of criminals who tried to evade those taxes. This "egg" was named Eric Garner.

Oops. Oh, well.

The NYC govt wanted to make an omelet, protecting people from their own faults (smoking cigarettes). Hope they enjoy it.

It was never established that Garner had actually illegally sold cigarettes when the cops killed him.

Please! when was the last time you heard of dead man accused of a crime?

Read this:

By the Way It s Not Clear Eric Garner Even Had Illegal Cigarettes When He Was Killed The Daily Banter

and then come back and say something else stupid.

dude, do you even know what happened? The cigarettes have zero to do with what happened. Why are you so stupid?

What's the topic of this thread, fuckwit?

What crime did Eric Garner commit, that made the NYPD go after him? So?

What crime did he commit? Who said he did?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So I guess what happened to Abner Louima at the hands of the police was his fault, too?

Abner Louima - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Oh, btw, the RWnuts mostly took the cops' side in that incident too. I remember it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

again, you have shown your stupidness once again. Learn something would you please.

You're saying it's Garner's fault he was killed because he was resisting arrest.

The armed gangs at the Bundy ranch were obstructing justice at the very least.

That means it would have been their fault if they'd been killed, using the RWnut reasoning.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.

I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.

Anything else is an unlawful arrest.

That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.

A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.

And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.

Wrong. There is no death penalty in NY for misdemeanor resisting arrest.

He sentenced himself to death.

I had to disappoint you, but the act you're putting on has a well worn history from a long parade of RWnuts on USMB.

Come up with some original if you're trying to entertain the goobers.

It seems that saying ridiculous shit is the ongoing act here. Had to disappoint you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

again, you have shown your stupidness once again. Learn something would you please.

I at least know the topic of this thread, 'wit. That's a big step above where you're at.

 

[Desperado]

Eric Garner was dumber than a door nail.
It was not even the fact he was selling untaxed cigarettes, He was selling them in front of a store that was selling the cigarettes legally.
That store owner called the cops to have the man removed from in front of his store, taking away is business. When the cops got there and told Mr Garner to move on, he refused. This refusal led to him being arrested and his resisting arrest charge. So it was not the untaxed cigarettes but Mr Garners view that he was not going to be arrested that lead to the incident.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.

Anything else is an unlawful arrest.

That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.

A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.

And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.

Wrong. There is no death penalty in NY for misdemeanor resisting arrest.

He sentenced himself to death.

I had to disappoint you, but the act you're putting on has a well worn history from a long parade of RWnuts on USMB.

Come up with some original if you're trying to entertain the goobers.

It seems that saying ridiculous shit is the ongoing act here. Had to disappoint you.

It's the same price to be right as it is to be wrong here. Try the former for a change.

 

[jc456]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

again, you have shown your stupidness once again. Learn something would you please.

You're saying it's Garner's fault he was killed because he was resisting arrest.

The armed gangs at the Bundy ranch were obstructing justice at the very least.

That means it would have been their fault if they'd been killed, using the RWnut reasoning.

duhhhhh. Dude, did you watch and listen to the video? come on man!!!! Wake up your stupid butt.

All he had to do was comply and go. Why is that so tough for you to understand?

 

[Carib Gyal]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch

So I guess what happened to Abner Louima at the hands of the police was his fault, too?

18701"]I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch

YThe armed gangs at the Bundy ranch

What's the topic of this thread, fuckwit?

 

[jc456]

So I guess what happened to Abner Louima at the hands of the police was his fault, too?

Abner Louima - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Oh, btw, the RWnuts mostly took the cops' side in that incident too. I remember it.

I'm sorry, but what exactly is your point? Sounds like the right justice was handed out.

The cop was sentenced for thirty years. rightfully so.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I wonder if the feds had killed a few dozen of those armed thugs at the Bundy ranch all the RWnuts here would be saying it was the thugs' fault they got killed?

I'm guessing that approximately 0% of you would have that opinion.

again, you have shown your stupidness once again. Learn something would you please.

You're saying it's Garner's fault he was killed because he was resisting arrest.

The armed gangs at the Bundy ranch were obstructing justice at the very least.

That means it would have been their fault if they'd been killed, using the RWnut reasoning.

The fact that the (wrong) decision was made not to arrest those assholes out there who were pointing weapons at LEOs doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Eric Garner.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Technically no.

People aren't arrested for SUSPICION of any crime, they are detained for questioning at times, but that is not an arrest.

Technically speaking, you are wrong. Just because police aren't supposed to arrest people simply on suspicion does not mean that police adhere to the rules.

I'm not wrong , You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Police are only empowered to make an arrest if they A)have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or B) Have a warrant.

Anything else is an unlawful arrest.

That's why technically speaking you are under arrest even when you get a speeding ticket,but you are ROI when you sign the ticket.

A LEO can't just walk up to you and say "I suspect you are a criminal" and arrest you.

And you gots to go with them or take your beatdown like a man. Garner couldn't take the beatdown.

Wrong. There is no death penalty in NY for misdemeanor resisting arrest.

Of course there isn't but police are of course allowed to use whatever force necessary to affect said arrest.