What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[danielpalos]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

Like hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Commie propaganda.

Sad reality

Our country has not been invaded in 200 years. No nation on earth has the capability to invade us. Our military does not protect our shores like our founders intended......they protect the capitalist interests of our wealthy

The military protects our nation. We all benefit from that protection. You're jealous of wealthy people, that's all.

only the general welfare is covered, as business as usual. the common offense and general warfare are not.

 

[BS Filter]

Afraid you belong to a society and are obligated to contribute

Fine, as long as my contribution is used for common issues, not to be your daddy and pay your way.

The only difference between theft and welfare taxation is that government is the middle man.

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

 

[BS Filter]

Fine, as long as my contribution is used for common issues, not to be your daddy and pay your way.

The only difference between theft and welfare taxation is that government is the middle man.

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

 

[danielpalos]

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

No. We should have no security problems in our free States. We have a Second Amendment.

 

[rightwinger]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

Like hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Commie propaganda.

Sad reality

Our country has not been invaded in 200 years. No nation on earth has the capability to invade us. Our military does not protect our shores like our founders intended......they protect the capitalist interests of our wealthy

The military protects our nation. We all benefit from that protection. You're jealous of wealthy people, that's all.

We haven’t been invaded in 200 years
They protect the global interests of capitalists

 

[rightwinger]

Fine, as long as my contribution is used for common issues, not to be your daddy and pay your way.

The only difference between theft and welfare taxation is that government is the middle man.

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

 

[BS Filter]

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

 

[rightwinger]

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

 

[rightwinger]

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

 

[BS Filter]

Our military budget is 46 cents out of every dollar on earth

It comes at a price, less money to spend on education, healthcare, modern infrastructure, public welfare

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

 

[BS Filter]

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

The states determine marriage laws. Anything not covered in the Constitution is left to the states. Five lawyers abused the Constitution.

 

[rightwinger]

When things like public welfare, healthcare, and all the other things you lefties think the government should fund get a mention in the Constitution, they can have 46 cent on the dollar spent on them.

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

Make it a state issue
We don’t need well regulated militias

 

[rightwinger]

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

The states determine marriage laws. Anything not covered in the Constitution is left to the states. Five lawyers abused the Constitution.

Read the 14th Amendment

 

[BS Filter]

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

Make it a state issue
We don’t need well regulated militias

The founders never mention what can be provided under General Welfare

They left it up to We the People to decide

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

Make it a state issue
We don’t need well regulated militias

So you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

 

[BS Filter]

I agree, the people decide. The problem is when the people decide, then a small faction use other means to get what they want to shove down the throats of the majority. Every state that voted on same-sex marriage voted against it.

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

The states determine marriage laws. Anything not covered in the Constitution is left to the states. Five lawyers abused the Constitution.

Read the 14th Amendment

I have. Nothing in there about marriage. Tell us what the reason was for the 14th amendment.

 

[rightwinger]

Afraid you belong to a society and are obligated to contribute

Fine, as long as my contribution is used for common issues, not to be your daddy and pay your way.

The only difference between theft and welfare taxation is that government is the middle man.

your money is being Wasted on the general warfare not the general welfare. stop whining.

Conservatives look at General Welfare as Welfare for Generals

 

[my2¢]

Certainly no constitutional scholar here, but I interpret the term "general welfare" in the document to refer to the federal government's role in TCB.

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[rightwinger]

You don’t get to vote on what rights other people get to have

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

The states determine marriage laws. Anything not covered in the Constitution is left to the states. Five lawyers abused the Constitution.

Read the 14th Amendment

I have. Nothing in there about marriage. Tell us what the reason was for the 14th amendment.

Read equal protection under the law

 

[rightwinger]

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

Make it a state issue
We don’t need well regulated militias

Our mission statement says to promote the general welfare not the general warfare. We know what gun lovers on the right wing prefer.

Do you think the second amendment should be repealed?

Let the states decide

Then you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

Make it a state issue
We don’t need well regulated militias

So you believe that the second amendment should be repealed.

It is no longer needed
We don’t have organized militias

 

[BS Filter]

Marriage laws are determined by the states. Queers have the same rights everybody else has.

They do now

The states determine marriage laws. Anything not covered in the Constitution is left to the states. Five lawyers abused the Constitution.

Read the 14th Amendment

I have. Nothing in there about marriage. Tell us what the reason was for the 14th amendment.

Read equal protection under the law

You didn't answer my question. You brought up the 14th amendment as a basis for same-sex marriage. What was the reason for the 14th amendment?