What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[rightwinger]

One thing they didn't mean was "individual welfare". Hence the wording.
General welfare, imho, is composed of things that facilitate a smoother running union, like a national postal service, a military, and a unified court system.

Doesn’t preclude individual welfare any more than welfare for farms or tax reductions for families with Children

 

[Vegasgiants]

Then we're back to you not being able to show them listed.


Quote the lines applicable.

Where is spending authorized for an air force? Lol

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You bring shit you get shit

Dont bring shit there wont be shit

Steaming piles seem to be all you have to offer on any topic.

Again I applaud your consistency. Everyone should be good at something.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Doesn’t preclude individual welfare any more than welfare for farms or tax reductions for families with Children

Any power not specifically granted to the Federal Gov't under the constitution is reserved to the states and individuals.

The primary purpose of our constitution is to constrain the federal gov't.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Steaming piles seem to be all you have to offer on any topic.

Again I applaud your consistency. Everyone should be good at something.

Ok you are as dumb as a stone


More shit


So be it

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Where is spending authorized for an air force? Lol

Under defense spending. The AF began as a branch of the Army.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Under defense spending. The AF began as a branch of the Army.

It says land and naval forces


Dude this is you'r game. Lol

 

[whitehall]

Everybody knows what "general welfare" means but you left out the most important word. What did the F.F. mean by the word "promote"? Today's lazy gen seems to have the phrase backwards. It's "provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare" not "provide for the general welfare and promote the common defense".

 

[Big Bend Texas]

It says land and naval forces


Dude this is you'r game. Lol

You really aren't very good at this are you?

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To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer term than two Years;

 

[Vegasgiants]

You really aren't very good at this are you?

An army is not a air force or space force

 

[rightwinger]

Any power not specifically granted to the Federal Gov't under the constitution is reserved to the states and individuals.

The primary purpose of our constitution is to constrain the federal gov't.

Where does it say that?
Show where in the Constitution

The primary purpose of the Constitution is to create a more perfect union for We the People

I can show you where it says that

 

[Big Bend Texas]

An army is not a air force or space force

Again, split off from the Army in 1947 under which is was created. The SF combines space related defense previously handled by all three branches and again, split off of the AF.

"Armies" are not just ground forces and certainly not under the definitions used at the time, they were inclusive of all military forces of a nation.

 

[Orangecat]

Doesn’t preclude individual welfare any more than welfare for farms or tax reductions for families with Children

That would be covered by the 10th Amendment.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Again, split off from the Army in 1947 under which is was created. The SF combines space related defense previously handled by all three branches and again, split off of the AF.

"Armies" are not just ground forces and certainly not under the definitions used at the time, they were inclusive of all military forces of a nation.

Well you love to interpret things your way


But you lost this one

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Where does it say that?
Show where in the Constitution

The primary purpose of the Constitution is to create a more perfect union for We the People

I can show you where it says that

What plenary power is in the preamble exactly?

It wasn't adequately spelled out originally hence the 9th and 10th Amendments.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Well you love to interpret things your way


But you lost this one

I haven't lost anything, the definitions used in the founding era are what apply.

"Armies" was inclusive of all military forces.

That's why it specifies "Armies", and not "Army".

 

[Vegasgiants]

I haven't lost anything, the definitions used in the founding era are what apply.

"Armies" was inclusive of all military forces.

Still waiting for a jurist that agrees with you. Lol

 

[rightwinger]

What plenary power is in the preamble exactly?

It wasn't adequately spelled out originally hence the 9th and 10th Amendments.

General Welfare appears twice in the Constitution

 

[ding]

If the question is what is the role of government... it's to do for the people what the people can't do for themselves. Not to do for the people what the people can and should do for themselves. Any questions?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Still waiting for a jurist that agrees with you. Lol

It's withstood every challenge since 47 so I think I'm good.