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https://www.ewtn.com/library/YOUTH/CONFESS.TXTI've never heard a Catholic say that, and I come from a family of Catholics.
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https://www.ewtn.com/library/YOUTH/CONFESS.TXTI've never heard a Catholic say that, and I come from a family of Catholics.
Are there different grades of sin in the catholic church?
Catholic thought distinguishes between mortal sin and venial sin. Serious sin (murder, robbery, adultery are examples) when done with the intent of knowing it is against the will of God, knowing it places one's soul in danger of hell, knowing one is offending God but one is determined to go through with the act despite this, qualifies as Mortal Sin.
Lying might be a good example of a sin that could be either moral or venial. If one knowingly lies is court and helps convict an innocent man, that is much more serious than telling a friend you are keeping to an agreed upon diet, but are not.
https://www.ewtn.com/library/YOUTH/CONFESS.TXTI've never heard a Catholic say that, and I come from a family of Catholics.
Buddhist confession works so much better for me than Catholic confession ever did. No priest is necessary. You apply the Four Opponent Powers yourself.
Not to forget the worst form of sins: sins against the holy spirit or a "peccatum clamans". Lots of people for example think not to pay a salary is a kind of venial sin - but indeed this behavior is able to be a very heavy mortal sin, a "peccatum clamans" and sins against the holy spirit are not able to be forgiven at all.
Specially in this context I'm worried for the Clerics themselve. I am a remarried Catholic. So maybe I see the problem "remarriage" in a wrong way - but on the other side I'm not able to see it in any other way than my own way. It was one of the best decisions in my life to marry again and from my point of view and experience I'm only able to give everyone the advice to marry again. To marry again after my first partnership failed was not only very good for me but also very good for lots of other people. There's nothing wrong to be remarried - absolutelly nothing.
I fear on the other side that some Clerics make a very heavy mistake, if they are propagating an everlasting excommunication of remarried Catholics. It could be the behavior of this Clerics is indeed a sin against the holy spirit, because our Clerics are the only people, who are not able to be remarried. If Clerics should misuse the sacraments "marriage" and "eucharist" for to maximize the might of the Clerics within' the catholic church and to minimize in this way the might of the laymen in the catholic church then I fear this Clerics did not read what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 23 about scribes.
Sorry and forgive me - but I don't see any other way than to say what I think what the truth is. If our holy catholic church likes to survive than only the truth is able to save us. Hopefully I'm wrong with this what I said here - nevertheless I fear I'm not completly wrong in this question. But I'm convinced the gates of hell will not prevail against us.
Not to forget the worst form of sins: sins against the holy spirit or a "peccatum clamans". Lots of people for example think not to pay a salary is a kind of venial sin - but indeed this behavior is able to be a very heavy mortal sin, a "peccatum clamans" and sins against the holy spirit are not able to be forgiven at all.
Specially in this context I'm worried for the Clerics themselve. I am a remarried Catholic. So maybe I see the problem "remarriage" in a wrong way - but on the other side I'm not able to see it in any other way than my own way. It was one of the best decisions in my life to marry again and from my point of view and experience I'm only able to give everyone the advice to marry again. To marry again after my first partnership failed was not only very good for me but also very good for lots of other people. There's nothing wrong to be remarried - absolutelly nothing.
I fear on the other side that some Clerics make a very heavy mistake, if they are propagating an everlasting excommunication of remarried Catholics. It could be the behavior of this Clerics is indeed a sin against the holy spirit, because our Clerics are the only people, who are not able to be remarried. If Clerics should misuse the sacraments "marriage" and "eucharist" for to maximize the might of the Clerics within' the catholic church and to minimize in this way the might of the laymen in the catholic church then I fear this Clerics did not read what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 23 about scribes.
Sorry and forgive me - but I don't see any other way than to say what I think what the truth is. If our holy catholic church likes to survive than only the truth is able to save us. Hopefully I'm wrong with this what I said here - nevertheless I fear I'm not completly wrong in this question. But I'm convinced the gates of hell will not prevail against us.
It is true, Catholics who remarry may not receive the sacraments. However, I understand this stops short of excommunication. A classmate of mine had a mother who remarried, but she faithfully attended Mass and raised her children in the Church.
The problem with remarriage is that the Church does not join two people in marriage, it is the witness of the marriage of two people. The Church believes it is God who joins the two together, and it cannot set aside a valid marriage. It can investigate a marriage to judge whether it was indeed a valid marriage from the beginning, but if it was a valid marriage, then the Church has no authority to split what God joined. In your first marriage, was it you who desired a Catholic marriage, or were either of you under pressure to marry in the Church? Did anyone make promises they had no intention of keeping?
Throughout the Old Testament, despite the fact that God's plan was for one woman and one man to be joined in marriage, we do see God blessing the unions of men with more than one wife. There has been conversation within the Church whether--after a lengthy penance--remarried Catholics should be able to once again receive and be blessed by the sacraments. While Christ did set the standards for marriage, and the Church indeed has a responsibility to point to and uphold the standard that Christ set, I do hear the plea of remarried Catholics to take part in the sacraments.
Do look at the other side of the coin, however. From the very beginning, Christians were cautioned and warned against receiving the Sacraments unworthily while in the state of sin. How can priests urge anyone to take part in that which may harm them spiritually? I pray the Holy Spirit sees the Church through this dilemma.
It may depend on what generation of Catholic you are or were. I certainly heard "make a good confession" as a kid. It was what was needed if you wanted to receive communion.I think batcrap suffers from mental illness. He hates G-d because he wants to be G-d. But in real life he is a loser on all levels.
I suspect something similar. I think he was probably raised as a Catholic, had good Christian values instilled in him as a child, but has chosen to rebel against these values, and to willfully lead a life of wickedness. I think he knows that what he does is wrong, and is wracked with guilt over it, and blames Christianity in general, and Catholicism in particular, for the guilt and associated misery.
Nah, he's just a hateful old loon seeking attention. I've never heard the term "good confession", you go in, fess up and take your medicine
The fact that the RCC ex-communicated people who committed suicide was hard for me to understand.Not to forget the worst form of sins: sins against the holy spirit or a "peccatum clamans". Lots of people for example think not to pay a salary is a kind of venial sin - but indeed this behavior is able to be a very heavy mortal sin, a "peccatum clamans" and sins against the holy spirit are not able to be forgiven at all.
Specially in this context I'm worried for the Clerics themselve. I am a remarried Catholic. So maybe I see the problem "remarriage" in a wrong way - but on the other side I'm not able to see it in any other way than my own way. It was one of the best decisions in my life to marry again and from my point of view and experience I'm only able to give everyone the advice to marry again. To marry again after my first partnership failed was not only very good for me but also very good for lots of other people. There's nothing wrong to be remarried - absolutelly nothing.
I fear on the other side that some Clerics make a very heavy mistake, if they are propagating an everlasting excommunication of remarried Catholics. It could be the behavior of this Clerics is indeed a sin against the holy spirit, because our Clerics are the only people, who are not able to be remarried. If Clerics should misuse the sacraments "marriage" and "eucharist" for to maximize the might of the Clerics within' the catholic church and to minimize in this way the might of the laymen in the catholic church then I fear this Clerics did not read what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 23 about scribes.
Sorry and forgive me - but I don't see any other way than to say what I think what the truth is. If our holy catholic church likes to survive than only the truth is able to save us. Hopefully I'm wrong with this what I said here - nevertheless I fear I'm not completly wrong in this question. But I'm convinced the gates of hell will not prevail against us.
It is true, Catholics who remarry may not receive the sacraments. However, I understand this stops short of excommunication. A classmate of mine had a mother who remarried, but she faithfully attended Mass and raised her children in the Church.
The problem with remarriage is that the Church does not join two people in marriage, it is the witness of the marriage of two people. The Church believes it is God who joins the two together, and it cannot set aside a valid marriage. It can investigate a marriage to judge whether it was indeed a valid marriage from the beginning, but if it was a valid marriage, then the Church has no authority to split what God joined. In your first marriage, was it you who desired a Catholic marriage, or were either of you under pressure to marry in the Church? Did anyone make promises they had no intention of keeping?
Throughout the Old Testament, despite the fact that God's plan was for one woman and one man to be joined in marriage, we do see God blessing the unions of men with more than one wife. There has been conversation within the Church whether--after a lengthy penance--remarried Catholics should be able to once again receive and be blessed by the sacraments. While Christ did set the standards for marriage, and the Church indeed has a responsibility to point to and uphold the standard that Christ set, I do hear the plea of remarried Catholics to take part in the sacraments. Do look at the other side of the coin, however. From the very beginning, Christians were cautioned and warned against receiving the Sacraments unworthily while in the state of sin. How can priests urge anyone to take part in that which may harm them spiritually? I pray the Holy Spirit sees the Church through this dilemma.
The fact that the RCC ex-communicated people who committed suicide was hard for me to understand.
My father committed suicide. It was after that I put the RCC behind me.The fact that the RCC ex-communicated people who committed suicide was hard for me to understand.
As far as I know the Catholic Church has never excommunicated anyone posthumously. Are you speaking of a time when suicides were not buried in Christian cemeteries?
Keep in mind, the Catholic Church has never said that anyone (including Judas) is in hell. Excommunication is simply notice that one is outside the teachings of the Church. So yes, anyone who attempts suicide has excommunicated themselves (sin of murder).
Also keep in mind for any sin to be mortal, the individual must know the sin is serious, knows that it will offend God, and knowing it will offend God and cause separation from Him, will for this offense and this eternal separation. If someone is not in his/her right mind, the criteria for mortal sin is usually not met.
My father committed suicide. It was after that I put the RCC behind me.
Correct. The RCC did NOTHING for me or my Dad.
Yes, I sure did. I knew the teaching on suicide condeming my father to eternal hell was wrong. His suicide is the reason I found Buddhism.My father committed suicide. It was after that I put the RCC behind me.
So you left rather than elect to become a part of a Catholic ministries that help family and friends deal with suicide?
Yes, I sure did. I knew the teaching on suicide condeming my father to eternal hell was wrong. His suicide is the reason I found Buddhism.
In 1981 I was alternating between two Catholic parishes in the town in which I lived. It had been the case in both these parishes for quite some time, and I'm speaking of over a decade. I do understand that it one town, and smaller towns may not have all the ministries available in larger ones.That wasn't the case for me in 1981, when my father died. The RCC has made many improvements but they came too little to late for me and my dad.