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American muslims still see all Americans as infidels if they are not muslim. So therefore, they hate as well. Death to infidels. That is their motto. They have done NOTHING to prove otherwise. NOTHING.
I really get the impression that you've never met a real live Muslim.
I have many friends who are Muslim. None of them are "full of hate". "Death to infidels" is not their "motto". What do you think they have to "prove"?
If that were the case, do you think they would tell YOU?
The libs were desperate to convince the world that this was a right wing, white supremacist, tea party, NRA conspiracy funded by Mitt Romney and ordered by sarah palin, that I became very suspicious that they were trying to cover something up.
Looking at the perps, raised and educated in the people's republic of Cambridge, indoctrinated at the Cambridge syringe and Latin terrorist training facility, I now see why.
It was a liberal terror attack.
I don't Willow, because the majority of them don't reside in our country.
I don't condone hatred and intolerance from anyone. Do you?
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
We need to begin using radical profiling like the Israelis. We know who does the terrorist attacks. No reason to pretend we don't.
Two terrorists and a potential small network of people supporting them caught the government napping and a few innocent people were murdered and several had their lives destroyed.
I do think the government acted well to nab the terrorists and it was utterly fascinating to have so much second by second first hand information. The internet knew what was happening sometimes two to three hours before the mainstream media did.
The biggest thing about this is oddly the technological revolution we witnessed and how that's going to impact the future. Despite the government's efforts to shut down internet police scanner feeds, there was 2.1 million people watching when the police napped suspect two. Within minutes of the gunfights happening in Watertown, there was video uploaded of it to the internet. Largely within minutes of any big story breaking there were pictures of it online. Also we were able to follow the story moment by moment not only on the police scanners and internet forums but also on Google Maps and through pirate feeds. At the time of the arrest, I had three TV feeds, four internet message boards and the police scanner feed all going at the same time. The internet's ability to gain information now surpasses any mainstream media outlets. It's unbelievable to think how powerful this is and when something happens we're all anon.
Good observation on the "new" media.
I think that carries alot of negatives with it however.
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
We have a problem here. In general most Muslim 'man on the street' interviews as well as statements from prominent Muslims in the US state a general objection to Islamist based terror. However, in every instance that objection invariably is accompanied by conditions.
"We reject the attacks, BUT"..
Not once since 9/11 has a high ranking Muslim Cleric or Imam unconditionally condemned the 9/11 attacks nor any other act of violence upon innocents perpetrated in the name of Allah..
Now that tells me the small minority of Muslims involved in terror either have control of the entire Faith or the everyday Muslim empathizes with the acts.
Either way the situation is the Muslim community either is unable or unwilling to get it's house in order. In other words 3 billion Muslims should be quite capable of silencing 3 million. So where are the American Muslims on this. Why do they not stand up and be counted as wholly opposed?
Things are only gonna get worse folks. Sorry.
My thought on the bombings:
1. We need to secure our boarders and not allow "refugees" from radicalized Islamic countries easy access to the U.S. (as well as support on welfare programs etc.).
2. We need to stop the politically correct bullshit that Muslim is a religion of peace. Until the peaceful Muslim community (yes it exists) effectively repudiates and isolates the Jihadist one, they are passive enablers of a violent philosophy.
3. We need to stop spending tax money on insane crap and pork and get government back to a proper, limited role of ensuring rule of law and national defense. Nanny statism regarding one size fits all health care plans, limits on magazine clips, limits on soda sizes, bans on plastic bags...we can't afford them. And worse, the overwhelmimg amount of this interference distracts much of the public from the real threat we face from global terrorism.
"A televised speech at a La Raza rally may not be representative any more than David Duke."..Five years ago, I saw a televised speech given at a La Raza rally. They were talking about overpopulating California, taking over the government posts, and passing laws to become part of Mexico. They were speaking before all Latinos and getting huzzas.Most of that is conspiracy theory. Most immigrants want to make a life for themselves and their families that was better than it was in their homeland.
That got my attention. What is it about informed Americans do you consider to be conspiratorial when it comes to knowing how the cow ate the cabbage, ma'am?
We have a large immigrant population...I have never heard any of my friends talking like that.
A televised speech at a La Raza rally may not be representative any more than David Duke.
I consider myself an informed American
Here are some pictures of Chechen people. If I passed them on the street I would say they were white. Wouldn't you? (By the way, I'm not the one who cares whether they were white, black, asian or whatever.)
The funniest thing about this conversation is that Chechens are quite literally "Caucasians" - Chechnya being right in the middle of the Caucasus region.
What about American Muslims?
Not all American Muslims are terrorists. Not all American Muslims attend their Mosque of choice to be brainwashed by Islamist Imams..Not all American Muslims sympathize with Islamist terrorists.
That's "what about American Muslims"...
They are Americans
Try to refrain from arguing right off the bat and just express what if anything this week has ment to you.
Myself it proves that the Govt can't protect it's own people because it's incapable of connecting the dots.
It's also shown me that the Patriot Act was a pointless overreach when compared to the results it's netted.
One last observation. Our gov't has gotten so big it is incapable of functioning properly for the good of the people.
Point taken though, correct?Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
We have a problem here. In general most Muslim 'man on the street' interviews as well as statements from prominent Muslims in the US state a general objection to Islamist based terror. However, in every instance that objection invariably is accompanied by conditions.
"We reject the attacks, BUT"..
Not once since 9/11 has a high ranking Muslim Cleric or Imam unconditionally condemned the 9/11 attacks nor any other act of violence upon innocents perpetrated in the name of Allah..
Now that tells me the small minority of Muslims involved in terror either have control of the entire Faith or the everyday Muslim empathizes with the acts.
Either way the situation is the Muslim community either is unable or unwilling to get it's house in order. In other words 3 billion Muslims should be quite capable of silencing 3 million. So where are the American Muslims on this. Why do they not stand up and be counted as wholly opposed?
Your numbers are a bit off. There are about 1 billion muslims, with roughly 7% of them radicals. That would be 70 million radicals. A prety high number wanting to kill us. So, unless Americans take steps to secure ourselves and our homeland, the carnage will continue.
We need to begin using radical profiling like the Israelis. We know who does the terrorist attacks. No reason to pretend we don't.
My thought on the bombings:
1. We need to secure our boarders and not allow "refugees" from radicalized Islamic countries easy access to the U.S. (as well as support on welfare programs etc.).
2. We need to stop the politically correct bullshit that Muslim is a religion of peace. Until the peaceful Muslim community (yes it exists) effectively repudiates and isolates the Jihadist one, they are passive enablers of a violent philosophy.
3. We need to stop spending tax money on insane crap and pork and get government back to a proper, limited role of ensuring rule of law and national defense. Nanny statism regarding one size fits all health care plans, limits on magazine clips, limits on soda sizes, bans on plastic bags...we can't afford them. And worse, the overwhelmimg amount of this interference distracts much of the public from the real threat we face from global terrorism.
Not all American Muslims are terrorists. Not all American Muslims attend their Mosque of choice to be brainwashed by Islamist Imams..Not all American Muslims sympathize with Islamist terrorists.
That's "what about American Muslims"...
They are Americans
Perhaps by definition. but I have questions as to their allegiance.
Is it to the USA or Islam?
