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Government got the bastards
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Answer the question. Why should Islam as a whole have to apologize for the actions of extremists?
Name any other religion that has been required to do so.
Speaking of "condoning" is merely a deflection.
It is quite obvious we are talking about Islamists who are part of the religious and political aspects of Islam who are also responsible for terrorist attacks!
There is no sensible question to answer .... as this discussion in view of the current event is getting indecent.
No. It is not.
When you are asking for Islam as a whole to "apologize" - when you are asking for ordinary everyday Americans to apologize for the extremists who steal their religion to justify murder - you are not atlking about Islamists. You are talking about all Muslims who are expected to "apologize" in a manner not demanded of ANY other religion.
Try to refrain from arguing right off the bat and just express what if anything this week has ment to you.
Myself it proves that the Govt can't protect it's own people because it's incapable of connecting the dots.
It's also shown me that the Patriot Act was a pointless overreach when compared to the results it's netted.
One last observation. Our gov't has gotten so big it is incapable of functioning properly for the good of the people.
It has shown me the best and the worst of people.
It has made me so proud of our government agencies and law enforcement people who worked tirelessly and risked their lives to track down the perpetrators and capture them.
The sad part, is that it has once more brought anti-muslim hatred to the forefront and I have seen the vilest things said and printed about that religion when it should be targeted at the suspects who did the deed, regardless of faith. People used the tragedy to justify their bigotry![]()
Try to refrain from arguing right off the bat and just express what if anything this week has ment to you.
Myself it proves that the Govt can't protect it's own people because it's incapable of connecting the dots.
It's also shown me that the Patriot Act was a pointless overreach when compared to the results it's netted.
One last observation. Our gov't has gotten so big it is incapable of functioning properly for the good of the people.
It has shown me the best and the worst of people.
It has made me so proud of our government agencies and law enforcement people who worked tirelessly and risked their lives to track down the perpetrators and capture them.
The sad part, is that it has once more brought anti-muslim hatred to the forefront and I have seen the vilest things said and printed about that religion when it should be targeted at the suspects who did the deed, regardless of faith. People used the tragedy to justify their bigotry![]()
funny isn't it that you never mention the bigotry of fanatical muslim terrorists who maim, torture and murder innocents.
What else I have learned since the bombings.....
That I can be a bigot. Am a bigot. Could be a bigot. Closed minded. Yet...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's usually a duck. Meaning=I do not trust muslims. Any of them. Is that wrong? Yes. Can I fix myself? I don't know if I want to. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones any more than I can tell the good christians/buddhists/pagans/etc from the bad ones.
It has shown me the best and the worst of people.
It has made me so proud of our government agencies and law enforcement people who worked tirelessly and risked their lives to track down the perpetrators and capture them.
The sad part, is that it has once more brought anti-muslim hatred to the forefront and I have seen the vilest things said and printed about that religion when it should be targeted at the suspects who did the deed, regardless of faith. People used the tragedy to justify their bigotry![]()
funny isn't it that you never mention the bigotry of fanatical muslim terrorists who maim, torture and murder innocents.
I don't Willow, because the majority of them don't reside in our country.
I don't condone hatred and intolerance from anyone. Do you?
What else I have learned since the bombings.....
That I can be a bigot. Am a bigot. Could be a bigot. Closed minded. Yet...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's usually a duck. Meaning=I do not trust muslims. Any of them. Is that wrong? Yes. Can I fix myself? I don't know if I want to. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones any more than I can tell the good christians/buddhists/pagans/etc from the bad ones.
What else I have learned since the bombings.....
That I can be a bigot. Am a bigot. Could be a bigot. Closed minded. Yet...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's usually a duck. Meaning=I do not trust muslims. Any of them. Is that wrong? Yes. Can I fix myself? I don't know if I want to. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones any more than I can tell the good christians/buddhists/pagans/etc from the bad ones.
funny isn't it that you never mention the bigotry of fanatical muslim terrorists who maim, torture and murder innocents.
I don't Willow, because the majority of them don't reside in our country.
I don't condone hatred and intolerance from anyone. Do you?
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
I don't Willow, because the majority of them don't reside in our country.
I don't condone hatred and intolerance from anyone. Do you?
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
I don't Willow, because the majority of them don't reside in our country.
I don't condone hatred and intolerance from anyone. Do you?
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
the last two or three attacks have come from muslims we''ve given citizenship to, opportunities to and yes,, quashed our fear and our loathing of their philosophy and each time we do we pay a heavy price.
Willow, if you sit back and think....we are talking about an exceedingly RARE event.
Should we hate an entire group because of that?
(ps - prior attacks were not Muslim - Newtown, Lougner, Colorado...)
Listen Mack,,, 1.5 billion muslims a good may of those hate us. polls have been taken, they hate us and they cheer when bad things of their making happen to us. say ten percent of 1.5 billion actually hate us and want to war with us.. How many is that?
Many things in this thread I agree with. The technology ... wow, too true. Orson Wells is turning over in his grave!
What sticks with me? The absolute total and complete lack of empathy and feeling that these bastards have for human life. None, zero. The one bomber looked directly into the eyes of the guy who lost both legs, as he placed the bomb next to him and an eight year old little boy. The other bomber who carried on the next day, going to school, laughing with friends as if nothing had happened. The absolute gall and arrogance they showed by showing their faces, essentially flipping us all off and laughing in our faces as they killed and maimed.
I cannot fathom this thinking, not even in the deepest part of me.
Five years ago, I saw a televised speech given at a La Raza rally. They were talking about overpopulating California, taking over the government posts, and passing laws to become part of Mexico. They were speaking before all Latinos and getting huzzas.Try to refrain from arguing right off the bat and just express what if anything this week has ment to you.
Myself it proves that the Govt can't protect it's own people because it's incapable of connecting the dots.
It's also shown me that the Patriot Act was a pointless overreach when compared to the results it's netted.
One last observation. Our gov't has gotten so big it is incapable of functioning properly for the good of the people.
It's time to close the door on foreigners who come here wanting to kill us or lop off the southwest to give it back to Mexico, who took it away from the American Indian tribes living here.
Where does the nonsense end? The Ice Age?![]()
Most of that is conspiracy theory. Most immigrants want to make a life for themselves and their families that was better than it was in their homeland.