What Exactly are the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Trump Is Being Charged With?

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Once again you are ignoring the fact that they are investigating the person who benefitted from the crime That does not mean you have to investigate EVERYONE who ever talked to the perpetrator of the crime

There are many possible reasons the Trump team could have been meeting with the Russians. But I have not heard them. If the Trump/Russia meetings were routine....Why doesn't Trump just release the records from the meetings so we can end this thing?

let me just back up a bit here.

you say there are many possible reasons for the meetings.
you say you've not heard them.
you now assume unsaid / unknown reasons were anything other than routine and from your own words, have no idea if they were or were not.
so trump not wanting to release records is now cause for an investigation and the outcry of GUILTY by so many on a daily basis.

like i said - at this point it's pure emo-driven not factual.

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

 

[rightwinger]

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

so trump was behind the hacking? is that why we're investigating things?

Wait–Former U.S. Intelligence Operatives Hacked The DNC And Then Gave That Information To Wikileaks?

Obama ignores evidence Russia didn’t hack DNC, Podesta

and again - asasange denies the russians were his source. so you're still wallowing at best in speculation and desire as there certainly isn't verifiable proof the russians did much of anything at all.

so if all you have is DNC hacking and "meetings" with trumps team and russia - there isn't shit here. but feel free to dig around in the feces but at least admit there is no definitive proof of any crime at this time.

Are you really that daft?

Lets go back to what Comey said about the investigation

the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

so to date no crimes have proven to have been committed.

correct?

Once again....incorrect

DNC Server was Hacked= Crime

 

[rightwinger]

Once again you are ignoring the fact that they are investigating the person who benefitted from the crime That does not mean you have to investigate EVERYONE who ever talked to the perpetrator of the crime

There are many possible reasons the Trump team could have been meeting with the Russians. But I have not heard them. If the Trump/Russia meetings were routine....Why doesn't Trump just release the records from the meetings so we can end this thing?

let me just back up a bit here.

you say there are many possible reasons for the meetings.
you say you've not heard them.
you now assume unsaid / unknown reasons were anything other than routine and from your own words, have no idea if they were or were not.
so trump not wanting to release records is now cause for an investigation and the outcry of GUILTY by so many on a daily basis.

like i said - at this point it's pure emo-driven not factual.

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

 

[iceberg]

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

so trump was behind the hacking? is that why we're investigating things?

Wait–Former U.S. Intelligence Operatives Hacked The DNC And Then Gave That Information To Wikileaks?

Obama ignores evidence Russia didn’t hack DNC, Podesta

and again - asasange denies the russians were his source. so you're still wallowing at best in speculation and desire as there certainly isn't verifiable proof the russians did much of anything at all.

so if all you have is DNC hacking and "meetings" with trumps team and russia - there isn't shit here. but feel free to dig around in the feces but at least admit there is no definitive proof of any crime at this time.

Are you really that daft?

Lets go back to what Comey said about the investigation

the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

so to date no crimes have proven to have been committed.

correct?

Once again....incorrect

DNC Server was Hacked= Crime

and we still don't know who did it, correct? the person giving out the info says the DNC gave it up.

you say RUSSIA.

i'll wait and not manufacture guilt to any given side for now.

 

[iceberg]

let me just back up a bit here.

you say there are many possible reasons for the meetings.
you say you've not heard them.
you now assume unsaid / unknown reasons were anything other than routine and from your own words, have no idea if they were or were not.
so trump not wanting to release records is now cause for an investigation and the outcry of GUILTY by so many on a daily basis.

like i said - at this point it's pure emo-driven not factual.

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

i kinda feel the same way going around and around with you.

DNC SERVER HACKED.

maybe. we sure got a flood of info from it but was it hacked or did someone inside give out all that info? for now i'm fine with hacked.

who did it?
RUSSIA

who helped
TRUMP

can this be proven?

NO BUT WE HAVE.....

if you can't prove it at most we have is probable cause and even that is weak in this case. but if it means investigate so the left will be happy, great. investigate. but if they find trump innocent, will you go with it or get mad and demand more?

 

[rightwinger]

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

i kinda feel the same way going around and around with you.

DNC SERVER HACKED.

maybe. we sure got a flood of info from it but was it hacked or did someone inside give out all that info? for now i'm fine with hacked.

who did it?
RUSSIA

who helped
TRUMP

can this be proven?

NO BUT WE HAVE.....

if you can't prove it at most we have is probable cause and even that is weak in this case. but if it means investigate so the left will be happy, great. investigate. but if they find trump innocent, will you go with it or get mad and demand more?

Nobody said Trump helped


What does this mean to you?

the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

 

[iceberg]

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

i kinda feel the same way going around and around with you.

DNC SERVER HACKED.

maybe. we sure got a flood of info from it but was it hacked or did someone inside give out all that info? for now i'm fine with hacked.

who did it?
RUSSIA

who helped
TRUMP

can this be proven?

NO BUT WE HAVE.....

if you can't prove it at most we have is probable cause and even that is weak in this case. but if it means investigate so the left will be happy, great. investigate. but if they find trump innocent, will you go with it or get mad and demand more?

Nobody said Trump helped


What does this mean to you?

the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

it means i'm tired of talking in circles.

earlier you said trump was the hidden ringleader.
now nobody said trump helped

yet he's under investigation but he's not. his team is, but only cause they *met* with russians.

when you can give me something concrete, holler.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

let me just back up a bit here.

you say there are many possible reasons for the meetings.
you say you've not heard them.
you now assume unsaid / unknown reasons were anything other than routine and from your own words, have no idea if they were or were not.
so trump not wanting to release records is now cause for an investigation and the outcry of GUILTY by so many on a daily basis.

like i said - at this point it's pure emo-driven not factual.

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

At least rightwinger can see how rediculous these claims against Trump are when you show the comparisons and disclose all the facts, if anything I found a way to shut rightwinger up.

This just proves that liberals only want to believe what they want to hear, throw a little basic disclosure of the facts into the discussion, comparisons, speculations, and they are hitting their head trying to come up with a response. Amazing isn't it? All this is such a complete 180 from when democrats were so happy to publish hacked documents, back in 2004 showing torture under the Bush administration, to their political advantage. Any way you look at it, it does not look good for liberal democrats, they simply appear as nothing more than unable to graciously handle an election loss.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Or when we try. Vladamir wants to re-create the USSR. Do you enjoy being that stupid?

Hey Jackass! Does it currently exist? No.

Grow up!

Okay, Russia is not our ally fuck face. Or are you dumb enough to believe those are warheads of love pointing at you and your family, eh fuck stain?

Hey! The 1980s just called and they want their Cold War politics back!

You are just pissed because you fucked up and I called you on it.

The raving lunatics have convinced themselves we are at war with Russia. Hell, even Bernie spent his honeymoon in the USSR and the left applaud him for it.

Of course nobody has said any such thing; only that Russia is our enemy which they are--unless you like having 4,000 nukes pointing at you.

Treason because he talked with Russians!

What Exactly are the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Trump Is Being Charged With?

 

[Weatherman2020]

the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

Read more at: No, Trump Isn’t Under Criminal Investigation by the FBI


That looks like a criminal investigation to me

yep. people in his campaign seem to be under investigation but i don't see trump on that list.

I don't believe you would, as there were no meetings between Trump and the Russians

Much like any boss involved in criminal activity, they have others to do the dirty work and maintain plausible deniability. The question is....did they order the meetings or were they informed of what was going on

well my main point is that while i think the investigations are made up bullshit by the left mad at losing, look if you must. i agree a ton was spent on hillary and hey - "turn about is fair play" is our mantra anymore. not being smart, not doing the RIGHT thing - but "payback"

so if we need to wait for someone to come in and sort it all out, fine. no issues with that and let them look to verify which side is "right" so the other side can cry FOUL once more.

my only point is to tell people who keep lying and saying TRUMP HIMSELF is under investigation, are wrong.

Which part is "made up bullshit"?

The Russian hacking of DNC computers?
Trump benefitting from the release of information?
That members of Trumps campaign were meeting with the Russians at the time?

the release of information




I am confused what information was released..what was so bad in that information?

.

The American people were told the truth about Hillary. The left hate and fear the truth.

 

[candycorn]

The investigation continues. Mueller is now looking into Manfort's dealings as well.

Small problem there, Manafort isn't Trump. You're not going to impeach Trump for something Manifort may have done. Again, this isn't a game of connect the dots and speculate. You HAVE to find a direct connection to Donald Trump and something that is illegal. Manifort talking to a Russian isn't a crime and doesn't involve Trump.

Mueller isn't looking into anything, he is still setting up shop. It will be another 90 days before he even submits a budget and gets started. All that is happening now is, what was once a credible news media, is falling all over itself to pump out one fake news story after another. You literally can't trust anything you hear from CNN, NYT or WaPo anymore. They report rumors and wild speculation based on anonymous sources as if it's factual information.

Nobody has gotten to Trump yet.....probably never will

Manafort was his campaign director at the time the leaks were being made public. You would think a campaign director has better things to do with his time than meet with foreign governments.

If Manafort is dirty, will he sell out Trump like some Mafia informant? Probably not

Trump will claim he doesn't remember like Reagan, he will claim he was out of the loop. He will claim a lot of things that may or may not be true

If Trump goes down, it will be for obstruction or perjury

Agree mostly. If Trump goes down (and I don’t think it will happen)…I think it will be because he will miscalculate what is serious and what is not.

 

[LaDexter]

Agree mostly. If Trump goes down (and I don’t think it will happen)…I think it will be because he will miscalculate what is serious and what is not.

Your definition of "serious" is seriously compromised, Israeli.

 

[candycorn]

Hey Jackass! Does it currently exist? No.

Grow up!

Okay, Russia is not our ally fuck face. Or are you dumb enough to believe those are warheads of love pointing at you and your family, eh fuck stain?

Hey! The 1980s just called and they want their Cold War politics back!

You are just pissed because you fucked up and I called you on it.

The raving lunatics have convinced themselves we are at war with Russia. Hell, even Bernie spent his honeymoon in the USSR and the left applaud him for it.

Of course nobody has said any such thing; only that Russia is our enemy which they are--unless you like having 4,000 nukes pointing at you.

Treason because he talked with Russians!

What Exactly are the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Trump Is Being Charged With?

And of course I never said treason. Do you ever read before you respond?

 

[LaDexter]

You want Trump impeached, and you do not care what the stated reason is for impeaching him. Mincing words on that is par for the course.

You want Trump out because the only country you've ever cared about is ISRAEL.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Okay, Russia is not our ally fuck face. Or are you dumb enough to believe those are warheads of love pointing at you and your family, eh fuck stain?

Hey! The 1980s just called and they want their Cold War politics back!

You are just pissed because you fucked up and I called you on it.

The raving lunatics have convinced themselves we are at war with Russia. Hell, even Bernie spent his honeymoon in the USSR and the left applaud him for it.

Of course nobody has said any such thing; only that Russia is our enemy which they are--unless you like having 4,000 nukes pointing at you.

Treason because he talked with Russians!

What Exactly are the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Trump Is Being Charged With?

And of course I never said treason. Do you ever read before you respond?

You never read before responding yet again. The link was to another leftard who posted Trump committed treason by talking to Russians, dufus.

 

[candycorn]

Hey! The 1980s just called and they want their Cold War politics back!

You are just pissed because you fucked up and I called you on it.

The raving lunatics have convinced themselves we are at war with Russia. Hell, even Bernie spent his honeymoon in the USSR and the left applaud him for it.

Of course nobody has said any such thing; only that Russia is our enemy which they are--unless you like having 4,000 nukes pointing at you.

Treason because he talked with Russians!

What Exactly are the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Trump Is Being Charged With?

And of course I never said treason. Do you ever read before you respond?

You never read before responding yet again. The link was to another leftard who posted Trump committed treason by talking to Russians, dufus.

Scientist tell us that you should probably respond to the person whom you’re quoting….

 

[LaDexter]

Scientist tell us

Good English, Israeli.

Go back to speaking Hebrew, which you do 20 hours a day...

 

[Rambunctious]

No one can site any wrong doing on Trumps team not one damn thing and it's been investigated longer than Watergate. But I don't care. The American people see it for what it is. It's just a political witch hunt by a bunch of sore losers on the left and on the right so I don't fucking care. It will go nowhere and the fools behind it will be excoriated all the way to hell and the biased media will be leading the way.

 

[rightwinger]

A crime was committed
We have to verify the meetings were unrelated to that crime

Why can't Trump just release information about what those meetings were about?

That is not emo-driven, it is a common practice in investigating a crime

how do we know a crime was committed? WHAT CRIME AND BY WHAT EVIDENCE.

Why do we keep going over this again and again?
You keep asking, are told the crime (HACKING) and then rinse and repeat

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause? Did they get their timelines confused and forget she was well on her way of her investigation for emails that (surprisingly) left her possession that she was supposed to be in control of? Has there ever been a candidate that we knew so much through her emails by the time they campaigned for their party's nomination? Yet that was all Trump's doing, after all there was that ONE meeting with a diplomat that caused Mrs Clinton to put a bleachbit to her computer with over 30.000 emails prior to handing over all she thinks she had. Which candidate has the most evidence of wrong doing, who also was directly tied to a secret meeting held with the Attorney General?

Now what do the democrats have in comparison after all this? A meeting, and after 6 months Senator Feinstein says there's no evidence the democratic party can produce. These are just "the facts" rightwinger.

Have the democrats been living under a rock, they all act like this releasing of Hillary's emails just happened, and Trump was the cause?

At least rightwinger can see how rediculous these claims against Trump are when you show the comparisons and disclose all the facts, if anything I found a way to shut rightwinger up.

This just proves that liberals only want to believe what they want to hear, throw a little basic disclosure of the facts into the discussion, comparisons, speculations, and they are hitting their head trying to come up with a response. Amazing isn't it? All this is such a complete 180 from when democrats were so happy to publish hacked documents, back in 2004 showing torture under the Bush administration, to their political advantage. Any way you look at it, it does not look good for liberal democrats, they simply appear as nothing more than unable to graciously handle an election loss.

I'm willing to close this whole thing down right now

Just provide a credible explanation about what Trump's team was talking to the Russians about

 

[LaDexter]

ust provide a credible explanation about what Trump's team was talking to the Russians about

whether the Nashville Predators would win the Stanley Cup.

Trump predicted they would.

Putin said they didn't have enough Russians on the team...