What happens when a tax cut doesn't cut people's taxes so they'd notice?

[westwall]

But that would be how socialists run companies, and countries, into the ground. Extremist policies always fail. ALWAYS. Leave it to an extremist, like you, to ignore that very basic, but well documented fact.

The two big crashes were under republicans 1932 and 2008. The way republicans are putting this country into debt so the top earners can get filthier richer than they are now almost guarantees another crash.

The crashes happened thanks to crap the Dems had set up before. But, the next crash is going to happen thanks to idiots kicking the can down the road for a couple of generations and the government enacting entitlement programs that we can't afford so they could garner votes.

The crash happened because the Bush administration didn't police corporate America.

Once again a laughable assertion, the crash happened because both sides of the aisle ignore reality. They spend more than they take in and one of the ways they could do that was by inflating the markets. The markets can only take so much inflation before they implode. The problem with the obummer "fix" is all he did was put the real correction off for a few more years. That way the next crash is going to be truly epic, and if you are still alive when it happens you will get to see what obummers policies have wrought.

Bullshit! It was Wall Street’s reckless investments and trading that caused the biggest financial collapse since the Great Crash of 1929 or the trillions of dollars in costs they inflicted on our country.

Republicans and Corporate America were/are at fault.

Yeah....no. The seeds were sown during the bill clinton admin, but the Dems aren't completely to blame. It was their policies that are the root cause, but the repubs failure to manage them properly certainly contributed. That's the problem when you try and blame one party over another, the evidence invariably leads to the unarguable fact that BOTH Party's are to blame.


Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

 

[kaz]

We must keep in mind that, thanks to the Bush tax cuts, we have about 40-45% of taxpayers who have no federal tax liability. They either do not pay any federal income taxes, or they get back what they pay, or they get back more than they pay (because of the Earned Income Tax Credit). So how do you "cut" someone's taxes when they already have no federal income tax liability after all is said and done?

When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

So then why don't they take more responsibility and work harder, care more about their employer, get more training? There is one way to make more. Make yourself worth more.

Your blaming the employer who pays someone more than anyone else offered them for the job they are doing is moronic and you'd know that if you'd ever managed anyone or worked in a senior job in a company.

What are you the one percent of? The greedy?

 

[kaz]

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

??? I'm "greedy" when I pay my employees more than any other business offered them to do that job?

You're a fucking imbecile. No wonder you're so poor

 

[kaz]

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

'
We are in some agreement here. However, without the investors there would have likely been no corporation in the first place. I do agree, however, that multinational corporations are the bane of capitalism. There is virtually nothing they do that is truly capitalist. They buy the politicians and the politicians pass laws that help their corporate masters. That is pure fascism.

I will grant you that.

Then the American government should cap investor returns to inflation and make foreign investment illegal. It's a better return than American workers do with pay.

There would be no American workers if the government did that, Comrade

 

[OnePercenter]

The two big crashes were under republicans 1932 and 2008. The way republicans are putting this country into debt so the top earners can get filthier richer than they are now almost guarantees another crash.

The crashes happened thanks to crap the Dems had set up before. But, the next crash is going to happen thanks to idiots kicking the can down the road for a couple of generations and the government enacting entitlement programs that we can't afford so they could garner votes.

The crash happened because the Bush administration didn't police corporate America.

Once again a laughable assertion, the crash happened because both sides of the aisle ignore reality. They spend more than they take in and one of the ways they could do that was by inflating the markets. The markets can only take so much inflation before they implode. The problem with the obummer "fix" is all he did was put the real correction off for a few more years. That way the next crash is going to be truly epic, and if you are still alive when it happens you will get to see what obummers policies have wrought.

Bullshit! It was Wall Street’s reckless investments and trading that caused the biggest financial collapse since the Great Crash of 1929 or the trillions of dollars in costs they inflicted on our country.

Republicans and Corporate America were/are at fault.

Yeah....no. The seeds were sown during the bill clinton admin, but the Dems aren't completely to blame. It was their policies that are the root cause, but the repubs failure to manage them properly certainly contributed. That's the problem when you try and blame one party over another, the evidence invariably leads to the unarguable fact that BOTH Party's are to blame.


Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

It was corporate greed and the Bush Administrations failure to police. PERIOD.

 

[kaz]

The crashes happened thanks to crap the Dems had set up before. But, the next crash is going to happen thanks to idiots kicking the can down the road for a couple of generations and the government enacting entitlement programs that we can't afford so they could garner votes.

The crash happened because the Bush administration didn't police corporate America.

Once again a laughable assertion, the crash happened because both sides of the aisle ignore reality. They spend more than they take in and one of the ways they could do that was by inflating the markets. The markets can only take so much inflation before they implode. The problem with the obummer "fix" is all he did was put the real correction off for a few more years. That way the next crash is going to be truly epic, and if you are still alive when it happens you will get to see what obummers policies have wrought.

Bullshit! It was Wall Street’s reckless investments and trading that caused the biggest financial collapse since the Great Crash of 1929 or the trillions of dollars in costs they inflicted on our country.

Republicans and Corporate America were/are at fault.

Yeah....no. The seeds were sown during the bill clinton admin, but the Dems aren't completely to blame. It was their policies that are the root cause, but the repubs failure to manage them properly certainly contributed. That's the problem when you try and blame one party over another, the evidence invariably leads to the unarguable fact that BOTH Party's are to blame.


Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

It was corporate greed and the Bush Administrations failure to police. PERIOD.

Riiiigggghhhhttttttt, it had nothing to do with the guy who started the policy, Bill Clinton.

Maybe it was the demons who hide under your bed and in your sock drawer

 

[KissMy]

The crash happened because the Bush administration didn't police corporate America.

Once again a laughable assertion, the crash happened because both sides of the aisle ignore reality. They spend more than they take in and one of the ways they could do that was by inflating the markets. The markets can only take so much inflation before they implode. The problem with the obummer "fix" is all he did was put the real correction off for a few more years. That way the next crash is going to be truly epic, and if you are still alive when it happens you will get to see what obummers policies have wrought.

Bullshit! It was Wall Street’s reckless investments and trading that caused the biggest financial collapse since the Great Crash of 1929 or the trillions of dollars in costs they inflicted on our country.

Republicans and Corporate America were/are at fault.

Yeah....no. The seeds were sown during the bill clinton admin, but the Dems aren't completely to blame. It was their policies that are the root cause, but the repubs failure to manage them properly certainly contributed. That's the problem when you try and blame one party over another, the evidence invariably leads to the unarguable fact that BOTH Party's are to blame.


Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

It was corporate greed and the Bush Administrations failure to police. PERIOD.

Riiiigggghhhhttttttt, it had nothing to do with the guy who started the policy, Bill Clinton.

Maybe it was the demons who hide under your bed and in your sock drawer

Excessive SubPrrime Mortgages were made from 2002 on because of Bush American Dream Down Payment Fund & imploded 4 years later. Bush caused a recession 6 month's after he stole the election causing economic chaos. Then he caused a Depression.

 

[OnePercenter]

When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

So then why don't they take more responsibility and work harder, care more about their employer, get more training? There is one way to make more. Make yourself worth more.

Your blaming the employer who pays someone more than anyone else offered them for the job they are doing is moronic and you'd know that if you'd ever managed anyone or worked in a senior job in a company.

What are you the one percent of? The greedy?

NO, employers continue to pay "the market price" for their employees no matter how good of a job they do. They do that because they can get away with it.

"How much do you pay the people that make you all of your money"? Answer that question and you'll be far ahead of 95% of employers.

 

[OnePercenter]

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

??? I'm "greedy" when I pay my employees more than any other business offered them to do that job?

You're a fucking imbecile. No wonder you're so poor

Again, It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

 

[OnePercenter]

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

'
We are in some agreement here. However, without the investors there would have likely been no corporation in the first place. I do agree, however, that multinational corporations are the bane of capitalism. There is virtually nothing they do that is truly capitalist. They buy the politicians and the politicians pass laws that help their corporate masters. That is pure fascism.

I will grant you that.

Then the American government should cap investor returns to inflation and make foreign investment illegal. It's a better return than American workers do with pay.

There would be no American workers if the government did that, Comrade

You mean all American business would close up shop? I would think it would be a relief to business by getting investors off their back.

 

[kaz]

Once again a laughable assertion, the crash happened because both sides of the aisle ignore reality. They spend more than they take in and one of the ways they could do that was by inflating the markets. The markets can only take so much inflation before they implode. The problem with the obummer "fix" is all he did was put the real correction off for a few more years. That way the next crash is going to be truly epic, and if you are still alive when it happens you will get to see what obummers policies have wrought.

Bullshit! It was Wall Street’s reckless investments and trading that caused the biggest financial collapse since the Great Crash of 1929 or the trillions of dollars in costs they inflicted on our country.

Republicans and Corporate America were/are at fault.

Yeah....no. The seeds were sown during the bill clinton admin, but the Dems aren't completely to blame. It was their policies that are the root cause, but the repubs failure to manage them properly certainly contributed. That's the problem when you try and blame one party over another, the evidence invariably leads to the unarguable fact that BOTH Party's are to blame.


Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

It was corporate greed and the Bush Administrations failure to police. PERIOD.

Riiiigggghhhhttttttt, it had nothing to do with the guy who started the policy, Bill Clinton.

Maybe it was the demons who hide under your bed and in your sock drawer

Excessive SubPrrime Mortgages were made from 2002 on because of Bush American Dream Down Payment Fund & imploded 4 years later. Bush caused a recession 6 month's after he stole the election causing economic chaos. Then he caused a Depression.

You're entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. Subprime was Clinton's policies. Absolutely W continued them and shares blame. But your absolving your sexual predator God is an attempt to rewrite history

 

[kaz]

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

No, I'm saying that working class Americans are woefully underpaid and make so little they don't pay income tax.

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

??? I'm "greedy" when I pay my employees more than any other business offered them to do that job?

You're a fucking imbecile. No wonder you're so poor

Again, It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

Since you know nothing about business, I'll explain it. There is nothing inherent that investors get more or less than workers, that is a non-sequitur. Both should get their market value. The market determines that. Not you, not me.

How have you grown up in a capitalist country and learned absolutely nothing about how free enterprise works? It's pathetic

 

[kaz]

And progressive policies ENCOURAGE that to happen.

Try corporate greed. It's the thinking that investors should get a higher return than workers.

'
We are in some agreement here. However, without the investors there would have likely been no corporation in the first place. I do agree, however, that multinational corporations are the bane of capitalism. There is virtually nothing they do that is truly capitalist. They buy the politicians and the politicians pass laws that help their corporate masters. That is pure fascism.

I will grant you that.

Then the American government should cap investor returns to inflation and make foreign investment illegal. It's a better return than American workers do with pay.

There would be no American workers if the government did that, Comrade

You mean all American business would close up shop? I would think it would be a relief to business by getting investors off their back.

Yes, comrade. If you restrict investors from earning market rates of return, then you will obliterate American companies