What idiot thinks the answer is to roundup the 20 million illegals and deport them all?

[healthmyths]

NOT one rational logical person has ever suggested that storm troopers knock down doors of suspected "illegals" hauling them off to concentration camps and then dumping them on buses back to South America?
I've looked at that prospect and YES it is a totally stupid ignorant scenario.

BUT what SHOULD happen is that every time an illegal is stopped for driving, or breaking some law...
DO AS MEXICO does DEPORT THEM! Don't put them into "sanctuary cities"!
What SHOULD happen is all the current laws must be enforced rigorously!
Don't stop states like Arizona with frivolous Federal government lawsuits! "illegals" by definition have NO
legal rights! They by definition are law breakers therefore deport them!

So not ONE conservative that thinks this through would ever suggest storm trooper roundups!
THIS IS THE LIBERALS solution! They think in terms of racists/socialist solutions...i.e. storm troopers!

Simply enforce and NOT prevent states from enforcing their state laws regarding "illegals"!
Stop giving them sanctuary!

Simply enforce the employer hiring laws for those companies hiring illegals.
Stop giving illegals food stamps. Stop giving them shelter.

THESE "Illegal" Immigrants will not survive or will go back to where they came from!
Obviously not ALL 20 million will pack up and go!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped for criminal behavior and deported!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped at the employers and deported!

But at least some, maybe MANY will be deported, may pack up and go home! Definitely at least SOME
will NO longer be protected by "sanctuary cities," by food stamps, etc.!

 

[healthmyths]

STOP THIS!!!

Does Obamacare give businesses a $3,000 incentive to hire illegal immigrants?
We found that some businesses could, in theory, save $3,000 per employee for hiring an illegal immigrant over an American citizen. However -- and this is a big however -- this would only work for a small subset of businesses, and these businesses would have to have a particular setup that experts told us is impractical and unlikely.
Does Obamacare give businesses a $3,000 incentive to hire illegal immigrants?

Granted it may not be a BIG deal... BUT COME ON!!! Why even encourage it ???

 

[Kondor3]

Steps for ridding the country of Illegal Aliens:

1. make it a felony to hire an Illegal Alien

2. make it a felony to sell or rent housing to an Illegal Alien

3. make it a felony to sell or lease a vehicle to an Illegal Alien

4. make it a felony for a bank or other financial institution to open or maintain an account for an Illegal Alien

5. make it a felony to provide an Illegal Alien with money-wire-transfer services

6. make it a felony to provide Currency Exchange -type services for an Illegal Alien

7. make it a felony to provide taxpayer-funded welfare or social services to an Illegal Alien

8. make it a felony to provide educational services to an Illegal Alien

9. make it a felony to provide medical services to an Illegal Alien (except for emergency life-saving or contagion spread-prevention measures)

10. modify all State and Federal drivers licenses and government ID cards to indicate Citizenship status

11. invest heavily in technology infrastructure to make "e-Verify" -like online citizenship verification available more broadly, beyond the realm of pre-employment screening

12. require an e-Verify query for every existing employee currently holding a job in the United States

13. metaphorically-legally "crucify" employers who violate related hiring laws.

14. declare Sanctuary Cities to be engaged in conspiracy to violate US Immigration Law

15. de-fund Sanctuary Cities at the Federal and State level until they rescind their Sanctuary status.

16. arrest the Mayors and City Councils of any Sanctuary Cities that do not rescind Sanctuary status and prosecute and convict them of conspiring to violate US Immigration Law, unless they rescind Sanctuary status

17. put teeth into these laws, to punish violators on a graduated or escalating scale, with chronic offenders getting hammered in criminal court; prison time and huge fines.

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Or some-such more draconian approach, plus or minus a bit, in areas where existing law or judicial rulings or practicalities dictate a tweak here-and-there.

Then watch these Illegal Aliens fall all over each other, scrambling to get the hell out of the United States, at the speed of light, on their own dime, and without the US Government having to spend a single dime on capture and detention and deportation.

A wall isn't the answer. A so-called path-to-citizenship isn't the answer.

Self-Deportation is the answer.

Creating (legal) conditions sufficiently hostile to Illegal Aliens, to make them want to leave, on their own, and to send a clear message across the border, that fun-time is over, and that there's not point in trying, in future.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Storm troopers knocked down that door to deport that little boy back to Cuba under Reno.
So there is precedence for it.

 

[Anathema]

I'll be your Huckleberry.....

I am most definitely in favor of kicking in doors, demanding ID on the streets, going through the records of every employer, etc.... to ACTIVELY seek out and remove these people and their families from this country. As well as confiscating all property and monies they didn't bring into the country with them.

 

[healthmyths]

I'll be your Huckleberry.....

I am most definitely in favor of kicking in doors, demanding ID on the streets, going through the records of every employer, etc.... to ACTIVELY seek out and remove these people and their families from this country. As well as confiscating all property and monies they didn't bring into the country with them.

NO problem except it is NOT going to be an effective, logical, and inexpensive method to do what you want to do...i.e. IDiOT!

 

[Anathema]

NO problem except it is NOT going to be an effective, logical, and inexpensive method to do what you want to do...i.e. IDiOT!

I didnt say it would be inexpensive. Nor did i say it would be easy. That would simply be shooting any pwrson who cannot provide ID immediately on request.

 

[David_42]

The fact that we're considering deportation in any way is sickening to me. Especially these pro lifers who love sending new born babies back to impoverished areas in Mexico.

 

[Kondor3]

The fact that we're considering deportation in any way is sickening to me...

A sure-fire barometer that we're on the right track...

Now, the question is: Self-Deportation, or Deportation-by-Force.

I suspect that the answer lies in the most favorable combination of Effectiveness + Low Cost...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What idiot thinks the answer is just just let illegals flood across the border unfettered? The same fools that have gotten us into this mess offer no solution but to surrender. Fuck that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The fact that we're considering deportation in any way is sickening to me. Especially these pro lifers who love sending new born babies back to impoverished areas in Mexico.

The fact that you think that it is OK to let these people flood our country and crank out anchor babies is what is sickening. You fucks are traitors.

 

[Ernie S.]

It really doesn't have to be effective or inexpensive. It just has to be publicized. Break down a couple thousand doors of people known to be illegal aliens and toss them empty handed 500 miles south of the border and tens of thousands will be packing up and leaving on their own. If the flow south slows, break down another 500 doors, scoop up and drop off another thousand well south of the border and PUBLICIZE it.
Pretty soon they will get the idea that it makes more sense to go back to where they came from voluntarily with some or most of their possessions than to be dropped off in the desert.

 

[dblack]

Steps for ridding the country of Illegal Aliens:

1. make it a felony to hire an Illegal Alien

2. make it a felony to sell or rent housing to an Illegal Alien

3. make it a felony to sell or lease a vehicle to an Illegal Alien

4. make it a felony for a bank or other financial institution to open or maintain an account for an Illegal Alien

5. make it a felony to provide an Illegal Alien with money-wire-transfer services

6. make it a felony to provide Currency Exchange -type services for an Illegal Alien

7. make it a felony to provide taxpayer-funded welfare or social services to an Illegal Alien

8. make it a felony to provide educational services to an Illegal Alien

9. make it a felony to provide medical services to an Illegal Alien (except for emergency life-saving or contagion spread-prevention measures)

10. modify all State and Federal drivers licenses and government ID cards to indicate Citizenship status

11. invest heavily in technology infrastructure to make "e-Verify" -like online citizenship verification available more broadly, beyond the realm of pre-employment screening

12. require an e-Verify query for every existing employee currently holding a job in the United States

13. metaphorically-legally "crucify" employers who violate related hiring laws.

14. declare Sanctuary Cities to be engaged in conspiracy to violate US Immigration Law

15. de-fund Sanctuary Cities at the Federal and State level until they rescind their Sanctuary status.

16. arrest the Mayors and City Councils of any Sanctuary Cities that do not rescind Sanctuary status and prosecute and convict them of conspiring to violate US Immigration Law, unless they rescind Sanctuary status

17. put teeth into these laws, to punish violators on a graduated or escalating scale, with chronic offenders getting hammered in criminal court; prison time and huge fines.

===========================================

Or some-such more draconian approach, plus or minus a bit, in areas where existing law or judicial rulings or practicalities dictate a tweak here-and-there.

Then watch these Illegal Aliens fall all over each other, scrambling to get the hell out of the United States, at the speed of light, on their own dime, and without the US Government having to spend a single dime on capture and detention and deportation.

A wall isn't the answer. A so-called path-to-citizenship isn't the answer.

Self-Deportation is the answer.

Creating (legal) conditions sufficiently hostile to Illegal Aliens, to make them want to leave, on their own, and to send a clear message across the border, that fun-time is over, and that there's not point in trying, in future.

Good to see fascists waving their flag proudly.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

NOT one rational logical person has ever suggested that storm troopers knock down doors of suspected "illegals" hauling them off to concentration camps and then dumping them on buses back to South America?
I've looked at that prospect and YES it is a totally stupid ignorant scenario.

BUT what SHOULD happen is that every time an illegal is stopped for driving, or breaking some law...
DO AS MEXICO does DEPORT THEM! Don't put them into "sanctuary cities"!
What SHOULD happen is all the current laws must be enforced rigorously!
Don't stop states like Arizona with frivolous Federal government lawsuits! "illegals" by definition have NO
legal rights! They by definition are law breakers therefore deport them!

So not ONE conservative that thinks this through would ever suggest storm trooper roundups!
THIS IS THE LIBERALS solution! They think in terms of racists/socialist solutions...i.e. storm troopers!

Simply enforce and NOT prevent states from enforcing their state laws regarding "illegals"!
Stop giving them sanctuary!

Simply enforce the employer hiring laws for those companies hiring illegals.
Stop giving illegals food stamps. Stop giving them shelter.

THESE "Illegal" Immigrants will not survive or will go back to where they came from!
Obviously not ALL 20 million will pack up and go!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped for criminal behavior and deported!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped at the employers and deported!

But at least some, maybe MANY will be deported, may pack up and go home! Definitely at least SOME
will NO longer be protected by "sanctuary cities," by food stamps, etc.!

No need to deport.

Cut off ALL benefits to illegals other than emergency med care. No jobs, no property ownership, no doing business, no school for the kiddies. Enforce the law.

Do that, and they will leave on their own steam.

 

[The sheeple sea]

It's called pandering to idiots, and its how elections work.

 

[Kondor3]

Good to see fascists waving their flag proudly.

Nothing fascist about using The Law to (1) deal with an invasion of 12,000,000 Illegal Aliens and (2) effectively discourage future waves of invaders.

In any event, it's far better than rewarding their trespass, and leaving the door open for a tidal wave of subsequent invaders, encouraged by our lack of resolve.

No thank you.

But, your juvenile attempt to portray firm resolve as fascism is clearly based upon either a personal stake in the status quo or a misguided internationalism or hyper-liberalism.

Oh, and, it was rather amusing, too.

Thanks for the late morning chuckle.

 

[candycorn]

Lets see, we have people claiming there is an immigration crisis where none exists (or has existed) and another guy who wants to drop people "empty handed 500 miles south of the border". I don't suppose it matters if they are from there or not...

Really, if it came down to having people on this message board stay and having the illegal aliens stay....would we really lose anything if the posters were the ones we deport?

 

[bripat9643]

The fact that we're considering deportation in any way is sickening to me. Especially these pro lifers who love sending new born babies back to impoverished areas in Mexico.

That's because you don't give a fuck about American workers, especially your own children. You want to take a great big shit on them. All you care about is your filthy party and importing more Democrats.

Every illegal who is allowed to stay is a crime against American workers.

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[Kondor3]

...Lets see, we have people claiming there is an immigration crisis where none exists (or has existed) and another guy who wants to drop people "empty handed 500 miles south of the border". I don't suppose it matters if they are from there or not...

Really, if it came down to having people on this message board stay and having the illegal aliens stay....would we really lose anything if the posters were the ones we deport?

Ahhhhhh... another colleague who doesn't like the current mood of the country... tsk, tsk, tsk... enjoy.

 

[bripat9643]

It really doesn't have to be effective or inexpensive. It just has to be publicized. Break down a couple thousand doors of people known to be illegal aliens and toss them empty handed 500 miles south of the border and tens of thousands will be packing up and leaving on their own. If the flow south slows, break down another 500 doors, scoop up and drop off another thousand well south of the border and PUBLICIZE it.
Pretty soon they will get the idea that it makes more sense to go back to where they came from voluntarily with some or most of their possessions than to be dropped off in the desert.

After we deport the first million, the rest will leave on their own.

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