What if Mateen wasn't targeting gays?

[Uncensored2008]

The fact that he cased Disney indicates he wanted to kill infidels, gay or not. He chose the bar because, after casing that out, he felt it was probably an easier target, IMHO.

The bar was a "gun free zone," Disneyworld has armed security all over the place.

 

[Liberty777]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Hatred of gays is about equal between radical Muslims and conservative Christians.

What is a conservative Christian. Please enlighten me I'm a little slow

 

[Valerie]

religious extremists come in many stripes...




A Baptist pastor from Sacramento, Calif., is under fire this week after delivering a passage praising the deaths of the dozens of men and women killed at an Orlando gay club on Sunday.

Pastor Roger Jimenez delivered his sermon a few short hours after more than 100 people were either killed or injured at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla.


"Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today? No ... I think that's great. I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida's a little safer tonight," Jimenez told the congregation hours later.


"It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man," Jimenez said in his preachings.

"The tragedy is that more of them didn't die," he added.

During the sermon, Pastor Jimenez cited Biblical passages including Judges 19:22, Genesis 4:1 and Romans 1:27.

Baptist pastor has shocking reaction to Orlando massacre

 

[koshergrl]

The fact that he cased Disney indicates he wanted to kill infidels, gay or not. He chose the bar because, after casing that out, he felt it was probably an easier target, IMHO.

The bar was a "gun free zone," Disneyworld has armed security all over the place.

Not according to the article I just read this am. That's one of the reasons he was considering it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
No Hitler wasn't. Stop lying

Asking Shortbus to stop lying is like asking her to stop breathing.

Pete lives to lie.

 

[koshergrl]

religious extremists come in many stripes...




A Baptist pastor from Sacramento, Calif., is under fire this week after delivering a passage praising the deaths of the dozens of men and women killed at an Orlando gay club on Sunday.

Pastor Roger Jimenez delivered his sermon a few short hours after more than 100 people were either killed or injured at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla.


"Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today? No ... I think that's great. I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida's a little safer tonight," Jimenez told the congregation hours later.


"It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man," Jimenez said in his preachings.

"The tragedy is that more of them didn't die," he added.

During the sermon, Pastor Jimenez cited Biblical passages including Judges 19:22, Genesis 4:1 and Romans 1:27.

Baptist pastor has shocking reaction to Orlando massacre

Sure lol.

 

[blackhawk]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

It matters when you want to prevent the next attack. Pretending that these attacks have nothing in common only assures that we'll be "surprised" again when the next one occurs.

We will be when the next one occurs from the Fort Hood attack to the Garland Texas one to San Bernardino to now Orlando the only common theme among them is they were ISIS inspired.

The longer we try to pretend there is no common link, the more we will be "surprised" and the more people will die.

One attacks at military base two attack a cartoon contest one along with his wife attacks his coworkers and this guy a gay bar other than being ISIS inspired what is the common link?

 

[Valerie]

Are Conservative Christians ‘Religious Extremists'?

 

[Valerie]

David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Just own it leftists, a Christian didn't do Orlando...it was a democrat, radical Muslim and possibly gay at that. Just own it

 

[Tilly]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

It matters when you want to prevent the next attack. Pretending that these attacks have nothing in common only assures that we'll be "surprised" again when the next one occurs.

We will be when the next one occurs from the Fort Hood attack to the Garland Texas one to San Bernardino to now Orlando the only common theme among them is they were ISIS inspired.

The longer we try to pretend there is no common link, the more we will be "surprised" and the more people will die.

One attacks at military base two attack a cartoon contest one along with his wife attacks his coworkers and this guy a gay bar other than being ISIS inspired what is the common link?

Radical Islam.

 

[blackhawk]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

It matters when you want to prevent the next attack. Pretending that these attacks have nothing in common only assures that we'll be "surprised" again when the next one occurs.

We will be when the next one occurs from the Fort Hood attack to the Garland Texas one to San Bernardino to now Orlando the only common theme among them is they were ISIS inspired.

The longer we try to pretend there is no common link, the more we will be "surprised" and the more people will die.

One attacks at military base two attack a cartoon contest one along with his wife attacks his coworkers and this guy a gay bar other than being ISIS inspired what is the common link?

Radical Islam.

Wouldn't radical Islam and ISIS be pretty much the same thing?

 

[Tilly]

It matters when you want to prevent the next attack. Pretending that these attacks have nothing in common only assures that we'll be "surprised" again when the next one occurs.

We will be when the next one occurs from the Fort Hood attack to the Garland Texas one to San Bernardino to now Orlando the only common theme among them is they were ISIS inspired.

The longer we try to pretend there is no common link, the more we will be "surprised" and the more people will die.

One attacks at military base two attack a cartoon contest one along with his wife attacks his coworkers and this guy a gay bar other than being ISIS inspired what is the common link?

Radical Islam.

Wouldn't radical Islam and ISIS be pretty much the same thing?

Sure, but there are countless Islamic terrorist groups, ISIS is just the most prominent among them right now. They all want homosexuals and infidels dead. This butcher was obviously of like mind.

 

[SixFoot]

He may have been going to this bar to stake it out or he may have been gay. One of the nations of the world with the most closeted gay activity is Afghanistan. They hate gay sex and refer to it as a sin with death as a punishment.
But many of them participate in it as often as they can.

Punishment via anal rape by a chain gang of other Afghanis is common practice over there. They love giving it, they hate getting it.

"Girls are for babies, boys are for fun" as they like to say with a sick smile on their face.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What if Mateen wasn't targeting gays?

What if you stopped eating paint chips?

 

[SixFoot]

religious extremists come in many stripes...




A Baptist pastor from Sacramento, Calif., is under fire this week after delivering a passage praising the deaths of the dozens of men and women killed at an Orlando gay club on Sunday.

Pastor Roger Jimenez delivered his sermon a few short hours after more than 100 people were either killed or injured at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla.


"Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today? No ... I think that's great. I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida's a little safer tonight," Jimenez told the congregation hours later.


"It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man," Jimenez said in his preachings.

"The tragedy is that more of them didn't die," he added.

During the sermon, Pastor Jimenez cited Biblical passages including Judges 19:22, Genesis 4:1 and Romans 1:27.

Baptist pastor has shocking reaction to Orlando massacre

I'll bet that story came out front and center too.

 

[Ozone]

it's time to blame the government, not that obama is the cause of terrorism, but all the politicians and all the law enforcement over the years have failed to explain to people what terrorism really is. the media is gone off like a runaway train, going to throw blame around everywhere as it derails, it goes on passions. 9/11 was very sophisticated terrorist attack, the shooting in orlando was not as sophisticated as that. the more complicated the attack, the more planning and resources gone into it, obviously. but what makes it terrorism is motives, or in some ways terrorism is to violence what propaganda is to the news. it's easy to have conspiracy theories about it, too. why didn't the fbi do something, or did they let it happen, or are they covering up the truth somehow, etc. the terrorist picks the target as the symbol for the passions of the people, to make people afraid of their own freedoms. the radical islam knows that the liberals in america will go all stockholm syndrome, too. better not say or do anything to offend the muslims, they might explode again... so basically isis controls america's foreign policy right now, they own it because they can manipulate obama's government through acts of terror.

 

[koshergrl]

it's time to blame the government, not that obama is the cause of terrorism, but all the politicians and all the law enforcement over the years have failed to explain to people what terrorism really is. the media is gone off like a runaway train, going to throw blame around everywhere as it derails, it goes on passions. 9/11 was very sophisticated terrorist attack, the shooting in orlando was not as sophisticated as that. the more complicated the attack, the more planning and resources gone into it, obviously. but what makes it terrorism is motives, or in some ways terrorism is to violence what propaganda is to the news. it's easy to have conspiracy theories about it, too. why didn't the fbi do something, or did they let it happen, or are they covering up the truth somehow, etc. the terrorist picks the target as the symbol for the passions of the people, to make people afraid of their own freedoms. the radical islam knows that the liberals in america will go all stockholm syndrome, too. better not say or do anything to offend the muslims, they might explode again... so basically isis controls america's foreign policy right now, they own it because they can manipulate obama's government through acts of terror.

Obama's government is complicit. They facilitate it.

 

[koshergrl]

The fact that he cased Disney indicates he wanted to kill infidels, gay or not. He chose the bar because, after casing that out, he felt it was probably an easier target, IMHO.

He "may" have cased Disney - according to his wife (the words the articles use are "may"), but he spent 3 years going to that bar. You don't spend 3 years "casing".

You think his homosexuality is what caused him to kill homosexuals?

Okay. So what can we do to stop homosexuality? We need to focus on that. According to you.

When his former wife was asked early on by CNN if he was gay, she hesitated and said she didn't know. Seems the story has changed. This woman only knew him for a short time before they married. She was only married to him for three months, and hasn't seen him for 8 years. She said he used to beat her. I don't think she is sure about much, apart from he beat her and she was frightened of him, naturally. Anyway, it irrelevant, IMHO, since he cased Disney world which is frequented by all and sundry. He was specifically casing out which parts of Dysney world had poor security.

They lie. That's what they do. They lie, cheat, steal...all so they can murder.

 

[Coyote]

The kind of abuse some righties, some Muslims, and some Family Values prudes heap onto gay people can cause serious problems.

The only difference between those who oppose gay marriage and countries that outlaw being gay, is the severity of the punishment.

Ranging from social isolation here in the US to death in some countries.

The list of those who oppose being gay has nothing but ass holes on it, no matter where they are.

However the only people who actually take it into their hands to slaughter huge numbers of gays at once...

Nazis.
Communists.
Muslims.

And remember..this isn't a gay thing. It's about protecting and embracing a culture that systematically advocates the wholesale slaughter of innocents. Children, women, people on buses, planes, daycares, schools...Yes, let's embrace the culture that openly states their INTENT to slaughter on a daily basis.

Progressive American totalitarians love Islam because they can camoflauge their own murderous intent by hitching their wagon to the Islam star, and letting the muzzies take the flak.

Nazi's were Christians.

Another anti-American, pro-Nazi lie.

Nazis were never Christians. Hitler and his henchmen killed and incarcerated men and women of the cloth unless they took an oath of allegiance to the Nazi Party before God.

Which of course distinguishes them from Christians.

The only people allowed to speak in church had to wear the swastika emblem on their regalia. Hitler voiced his conviction that Christians were the most formidable enemy known to his brand of Nazism on multiple occasions. He promoted the restoration of Germany to an animalistic society of a much more primitive pagan bent than Christianity.

Again you showcase your ignorance. Or you're just lying. Either way, you're filth.

Hitler was a Christer and said so many times.

No Hitler wasn't. Stop lying

Yup, he was, as we're the majority of the nice white Aryan Nazi oarty.