What If We Actually Had Poor People In This Country?

[PoliticalChic]

And you are a brainwashed functional moron. Read something

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw13Ml1Vr5ZFZKppusHhBVVe

There is no poverty in this nation, merely that propaganda you swallow, and regurgitate here daily.

Read the links, brainwashed functional moron. After 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world. And it just keeps getting worse until the Democrats get in with a landslide.

Over half a century of Democrats feeding the fake welfare system, $22 trillion, the poverty rate is almost the exact same as it was at the start.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

The single, solitary aim of the Liberal tax-and-give-away program is to accrue votes.

Actually, it's to prevent revolt. When people get miserable enough, they will cause trouble. It is not just Democrats who know this.

So it's fear that fuels you?

Actually, as usual with your posts, the very opposite is true.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And you are a brainwashed functional moron. Read something

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw13Ml1Vr5ZFZKppusHhBVVe

There is no poverty in this nation, merely that propaganda you swallow, and regurgitate here daily.

Read the links, brainwashed functional moron. After 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world. And it just keeps getting worse until the Democrats get in with a landslide.

Over half a century of Democrats feeding the fake welfare system, $22 trillion, the poverty rate is almost the exact same as it was at the start.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

The single, solitary aim of the Liberal tax-and-give-away program is to accrue votes.

Truth.
In 2016, 40.6 million people lived in Poverty USA. That means the poverty rate for 2016 was 12.7%. Use our interactive map to take a closer look at poverty statistics in the United States.

Who lives in Poverty USA?
All those who make less than the Federal government’s official poverty threshold... which for a family of four is about $24,000.00. People working at minimum wage, even holding down several jobs. Seniors living on fixed incomes. Wage earners suddenly out of work. Millions of families everywhere from our cities to rural communities.

Poverty does not strike all demographics equally. For example, in 2016, 13.8% of men, and 16.3% of women lived in Poverty USA. Along the same lines, the poverty rate for married couples in 2016 was only 5.1% - but the poverty rate for single-parent families with no wife present was 13.1%, and for single-parent families with no husband present was 26.6%.

In 2016, the poverty rate for people living with a disability was 21.0%. That’s more than 4 million people living with a disability—in poverty.

Poverty by Age

Children in Poverty
In 2016, 21.2% of all children (15.3 million kids) lived in Poverty USA—that’s almost 1 in every 5 children.

In 2014, the National Center on Family Homelessness analyzed state-level data and found that nationwide, 2.5 million children experience homelessness in a year.

Seniors in Poverty
Though the official census data gives seniors a 2016 poverty rate of only 9.3%, the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which accounts for expenses such as the rising costs of health care, raises the senior poverty rate to 14.5%.



Poverty by Ethnicity
According to 2016 US Census Data, the highest poverty rate by race is found among Native Americans (27.6%), with Blacks (26.2%) having the second highest poverty rate, and Hispanics (of any race) having the third highest poverty rate (23.4%). Whites had a poverty rate of 12.4%, while Asians had a poverty rate at 12.3%.

The Economics of Poverty
Poverty thresholds are determined by the US government, and vary according to the size of a family, and the ages of its members. In 2016, the poverty threshold—also known as the poverty line—for an individual was $12,228. For two people, the weighted average threshold was $15,569.

Poverty Thresholds
Three people

$19,105

Four people

$24,563

Five people

$29,111

Six people

$32,928

Seven people

$37,458

Eight people

$41,781

Nine or more people

$49,721

For more details about poverty thresholds, visit the US Census Bureau. Poverty thresholds are intended for use as a statistical yardstick, not a complete description of what people and/or families actually need to live.

What’s worse, 6.7% of the population—or 21.3 million people—live in deep poverty, with incomes below 50% of their poverty thresholds.

And 29.8% of the population—or 95 million—live close to poverty, with incomes less than two times that of their poverty thresholds. To learn more about poverty thresholds and what it is like to live at the poverty line, take a look at the statistics.

Sources: How the US Census Measures Poverty, US Census Bureau; Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016, US Census Bureau (p. 17).

Employment
According to the most recent Census data, median household incomes have increased by 3.2% since 2015. This is only the second annual increase in median household income since 2007. In 2016, the median income for family households was $75,062, while the median income for nonfamily households was $35,761.

In 2016, an estimated 74.8% of men with earnings and 62.2% of women with earnings worked full time, year-round. However, in 2016, the earnings of women who worked full time, year-round were only 80.5% of that for men working full time, year-round.

Source: US Census Bureau; Income and Poverty in the United States: 2016

Food Insecurity
The USDA estimated that 12.3% of US households were food insecure in 2016. This means that approximately 15.6 million households had difficulty providing enough food for all their members due to a lack of resources. Rates of food insecurity were substantially higher than the national average for households with incomes near or below the Federal poverty line.

There are programs that help.
61% of food-insecure households in the USDA survey reported that in the previous month, they had participated in one or more of the three largest Federal food and nutrition assistance programs. One of these programs is known as SNAP, or the Supplemental Nutrition Program. Learn more about policies that help.

Source: United States Department of Agriculture, Food Security Status of US Households in 2016

In addition, every day, thousands of people—working with their neighbors and community—are finding ways out of Poverty USA by strengthening families, creating jobs, and improving neighborhoods. For nearly five decades, CCHD has supported nearly 11,000 community-based projects led by low-income people through our grant program. Read some of their stories.
Poverty USA

Total propaganda, designed to get your vote and your credit card.


And, if you're stupid, it works.

Using the real meaning of poverty, there is none outside of the mentally ill.

You might just fit into that category.......

 

[Bonzi]

And you are a brainwashed functional moron. Read something

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw13Ml1Vr5ZFZKppusHhBVVe

There is no poverty in this nation, merely that propaganda you swallow, and regurgitate here daily.

Read the links, brainwashed functional moron. After 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world. And it just keeps getting worse until the Democrats get in with a landslide.

Over half a century of Democrats feeding the fake welfare system, $22 trillion, the poverty rate is almost the exact same as it was at the start.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

The single, solitary aim of the Liberal tax-and-give-away program is to accrue votes.

Truth.
In 2016, 40.6 million people lived in Poverty USA. That means the poverty rate for 2016 was 12.7%. Use our interactive map to take a closer look at poverty statistics in the United States.

Who lives in Poverty USA?
All those who make less than the Federal government’s official poverty threshold... which for a family of four is about $24,000.00. People working at minimum wage, even holding down several jobs. Seniors living on fixed incomes. Wage earners suddenly out of work. Millions of families everywhere from our cities to rural communities.

Poverty does not strike all demographics equally. For example, in 2016, 13.8% of men, and 16.3% of women lived in Poverty USA. Along the same lines, the poverty rate for married couples in 2016 was only 5.1% - but the poverty rate for single-parent families with no wife present was 13.1%, and for single-parent families with no husband present was 26.6%.

In 2016, the poverty rate for people living with a disability was 21.0%. That’s more than 4 million people living with a disability—in poverty.

Poverty by Age

Children in Poverty
In 2016, 21.2% of all children (15.3 million kids) lived in Poverty USA—that’s almost 1 in every 5 children.

In 2014, the National Center on Family Homelessness analyzed state-level data and found that nationwide, 2.5 million children experience homelessness in a year.

Seniors in Poverty
Though the official census data gives seniors a 2016 poverty rate of only 9.3%, the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which accounts for expenses such as the rising costs of health care, raises the senior poverty rate to 14.5%.



Poverty by Ethnicity
According to 2016 US Census Data, the highest poverty rate by race is found among Native Americans (27.6%), with Blacks (26.2%) having the second highest poverty rate, and Hispanics (of any race) having the third highest poverty rate (23.4%). Whites had a poverty rate of 12.4%, while Asians had a poverty rate at 12.3%.

The Economics of Poverty
Poverty thresholds are determined by the US government, and vary according to the size of a family, and the ages of its members. In 2016, the poverty threshold—also known as the poverty line—for an individual was $12,228. For two people, the weighted average threshold was $15,569.

Poverty Thresholds
Three people

$19,105

Four people

$24,563

Five people

$29,111

Six people

$32,928

Seven people

$37,458

Eight people

$41,781

Nine or more people

$49,721

For more details about poverty thresholds, visit the US Census Bureau. Poverty thresholds are intended for use as a statistical yardstick, not a complete description of what people and/or families actually need to live.

What’s worse, 6.7% of the population—or 21.3 million people—live in deep poverty, with incomes below 50% of their poverty thresholds.

And 29.8% of the population—or 95 million—live close to poverty, with incomes less than two times that of their poverty thresholds. To learn more about poverty thresholds and what it is like to live at the poverty line, take a look at the statistics.

Sources: How the US Census Measures Poverty, US Census Bureau; Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016, US Census Bureau (p. 17).

Employment
According to the most recent Census data, median household incomes have increased by 3.2% since 2015. This is only the second annual increase in median household income since 2007. In 2016, the median income for family households was $75,062, while the median income for nonfamily households was $35,761.

In 2016, an estimated 74.8% of men with earnings and 62.2% of women with earnings worked full time, year-round. However, in 2016, the earnings of women who worked full time, year-round were only 80.5% of that for men working full time, year-round.

Source: US Census Bureau; Income and Poverty in the United States: 2016

Food Insecurity
The USDA estimated that 12.3% of US households were food insecure in 2016. This means that approximately 15.6 million households had difficulty providing enough food for all their members due to a lack of resources. Rates of food insecurity were substantially higher than the national average for households with incomes near or below the Federal poverty line.

There are programs that help.
61% of food-insecure households in the USDA survey reported that in the previous month, they had participated in one or more of the three largest Federal food and nutrition assistance programs. One of these programs is known as SNAP, or the Supplemental Nutrition Program. Learn more about policies that help.

Source: United States Department of Agriculture, Food Security Status of US Households in 2016

In addition, every day, thousands of people—working with their neighbors and community—are finding ways out of Poverty USA by strengthening families, creating jobs, and improving neighborhoods. For nearly five decades, CCHD has supported nearly 11,000 community-based projects led by low-income people through our grant program. Read some of their stories.
Poverty USA

Poverty based on US statistics or global statistics?

 

[Bonzi]

There are not "poor" people in this country. Even the homeless have clean water and edible food.

Lucky them

You forgot to mention they have Obamaphones

Lucky compared to 80% in the world. What do you think about entitlement?

We are the wealthiest nation on earth

Still we complain our poor do not suffer enough

Agreed. But our poor do not suffer in comparison. And, many of our poor choose to be poor. Do you disagree?

What does that mean?
Are you setting the bar at Somalia?

I think the poor in our country have very few venues to escape poverty. No, I do not blame them

do you think some choose to be poor?

 

[Bonzi]

You can work 3 PT jobs and be OK in the US. What are your standards?

 

[Uncensored2008]

As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



You are poor???
Here....let me help:

Some plans if you need some extra bucks: (When Money is Tight, These 9 Resources Can Help You)

6. Make a Little Extra Money While You Watch TV
Surveys aren’t the quickest way to make money, but they’re a great way to cash in on your downtime and pad your pockets for the next rainy day. Fill them out while you’re watching TV, riding the bus or waiting in line.

One survey site we love is called InboxDollars. It offers several short, daily surveys. You earn cash, so you don’t have to worry about exchanging points. It also offers more ways to earn, such as watching videos, playing scratch-off games and searching the internet.

Bonus: You’ll get a free $5 just for signing up!


7. Sell Your Stuff
When you’re short on cash, look to the back of your closet and in the depths of your attic or basement. You’ll almost certainly find a bunch of stuff you don’t use anymore.

A lot of people see this clutter and start plotting a garage sale to earn extra money. The prospect is tempting — but a garage sale might not be worth your time.

Try some alternatives, like selling your stuff online or in town to earn more money with less hassle than hosting a full-blown garage sale. Apps like Letgo and Decluttr make it super easy to sell your stuff without sitting in the front yard and dealing with strangers all day.



More ways to get money without putting your hand in your neighbor’s pocket….next.

I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.

 

[rightwinger]

Lucky them

You forgot to mention they have Obamaphones

Lucky compared to 80% in the world. What do you think about entitlement?

We are the wealthiest nation on earth

Still we complain our poor do not suffer enough

Agreed. But our poor do not suffer in comparison. And, many of our poor choose to be poor. Do you disagree?

What does that mean?
Are you setting the bar at Somalia?

I think the poor in our country have very few venues to escape poverty. No, I do not blame them

do you think some choose to be poor?

I think they know how to be poor. They have had a lot of practice

 

[Uncensored2008]

As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.

There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



You are poor???
Here....let me help:

Some plans if you need some extra bucks: (When Money is Tight, These 9 Resources Can Help You)

6. Make a Little Extra Money While You Watch TV
Surveys aren’t the quickest way to make money, but they’re a great way to cash in on your downtime and pad your pockets for the next rainy day. Fill them out while you’re watching TV, riding the bus or waiting in line.

One survey site we love is called InboxDollars. It offers several short, daily surveys. You earn cash, so you don’t have to worry about exchanging points. It also offers more ways to earn, such as watching videos, playing scratch-off games and searching the internet.

Bonus: You’ll get a free $5 just for signing up!


7. Sell Your Stuff
When you’re short on cash, look to the back of your closet and in the depths of your attic or basement. You’ll almost certainly find a bunch of stuff you don’t use anymore.

A lot of people see this clutter and start plotting a garage sale to earn extra money. The prospect is tempting — but a garage sale might not be worth your time.

Try some alternatives, like selling your stuff online or in town to earn more money with less hassle than hosting a full-blown garage sale. Apps like Letgo and Decluttr make it super easy to sell your stuff without sitting in the front yard and dealing with strangers all day.



More ways to get money without putting your hand in your neighbor’s pocket….next.

Hah, I knew you weren't American. What country are you in where there's no poverty?

Most of America has ended poverty,. Now only Communist shit holes like California and Detroit suffer from large populations who cannot live indoors and lack food.

 

[Bonzi]

Lucky compared to 80% in the world. What do you think about entitlement?

We are the wealthiest nation on earth

Still we complain our poor do not suffer enough

Agreed. But our poor do not suffer in comparison. And, many of our poor choose to be poor. Do you disagree?

What does that mean?
Are you setting the bar at Somalia?

I think the poor in our country have very few venues to escape poverty. No, I do not blame them

do you think some choose to be poor?

I think they know how to be poor. They have had a lot of practice

do you think some like it? Do you even consider that some people prefer that over work and effort? Do you think that is impossible?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes...if those poor people would only pick themselves up by their bootstraps, work harder, accept the pay of a Chinese laborer they would no longer be poor.

Won't work, you democrats will just import more Mexicans and Central Americans to work for even cheaper wages. The democrat plan to end America is via importing illegals to undercut middle class wages. You want the nation to be like California, the obscenely wealthy and the abjectly poor.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You can work 3 PT jobs and be OK in the US. What are your standards?

Better than 'OK.'

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.


"WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”

The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year."
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf



From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, she's not.

How would you know that, creep?

Does the Provence of China you live in have some sort of "sooper sniffer software" that can rout an IP through a message board?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



You are poor???
Here....let me help:

Some plans if you need some extra bucks: (When Money is Tight, These 9 Resources Can Help You)

6. Make a Little Extra Money While You Watch TV
Surveys aren’t the quickest way to make money, but they’re a great way to cash in on your downtime and pad your pockets for the next rainy day. Fill them out while you’re watching TV, riding the bus or waiting in line.

One survey site we love is called InboxDollars. It offers several short, daily surveys. You earn cash, so you don’t have to worry about exchanging points. It also offers more ways to earn, such as watching videos, playing scratch-off games and searching the internet.

Bonus: You’ll get a free $5 just for signing up!


7. Sell Your Stuff
When you’re short on cash, look to the back of your closet and in the depths of your attic or basement. You’ll almost certainly find a bunch of stuff you don’t use anymore.

A lot of people see this clutter and start plotting a garage sale to earn extra money. The prospect is tempting — but a garage sale might not be worth your time.

Try some alternatives, like selling your stuff online or in town to earn more money with less hassle than hosting a full-blown garage sale. Apps like Letgo and Decluttr make it super easy to sell your stuff without sitting in the front yard and dealing with strangers all day.



More ways to get money without putting your hand in your neighbor’s pocket….next.

I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.

The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.



If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?

 

[Bonzi]

Anyone in America can live comfortably... please provide examples that are not specific or rate....

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

When Mexico was considering war with the United States on the side of the Germans a military commission was tasked by the Mexican government with investigating the possibilities. They concluded in part that..

"Even if by some chance Mexico had the military means to win a conflict against the United States and reclaim the territories in question, Mexico would have severe difficulty accommodating and pacifying a large English-speaking population that was better supplied with arms than most civilian populations."

Zimmermann Telegram - Wikipedia

I love it when someone comes along who has actually studied history.

George Santayana would be so proud of you, as I am.




Mexico sided with Germany against us in WWI

Mexico was the platform for the KGB all throughout the Cold War

For the last 40-50 years, anyone heading North through Mexico, saying that they were going to the United States, was given free transport on Mexican public transportation.

Austrian forms of chicanery?

 

[rightwinger]

We are the wealthiest nation on earth

Still we complain our poor do not suffer enough

Agreed. But our poor do not suffer in comparison. And, many of our poor choose to be poor. Do you disagree?

What does that mean?
Are you setting the bar at Somalia?

I think the poor in our country have very few venues to escape poverty. No, I do not blame them

do you think some choose to be poor?

I think they know how to be poor. They have had a lot of practice

do you think some like it? Do you even consider that some people prefer that over work and effort? Do you think that is impossible?

I think that is all they know
They know how the system works

Why do people live in Appalachian poverty for over a hundred years, generation after generation?

They do not know any other life

 

[JoeMoma]

As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



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I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.

The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.



If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?

Do you have an authoritative source for your definition of poverty (other than yourself)?

 

[Uncensored2008]

There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.

Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.

Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.

 

[JoeMoma]

I agree with PC to a point. The poverty line income level is a calculation that moves up as America becomes richer.

 

[DOTR]

Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.

The Democrats have formed a coalition of the wealthy ruling elite and the underclass against the working class of America. Its a powerful combination designed to rule. The elites pick the middle class clean through taxes and stay in power by handing it out to the underclass.

As far as the treason..watch Barack Hussein and Felipe Calderon attack US States together.


Watch Democrats in Congress give a standing ovation when a foreign leader attacks US States.


These two videos are proof positive and evidence against the party which instead of protecting its people and states joined with foreign interests to attack American people, states and laws.