What If We Actually Had Poor People In This Country?

The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.

Yes, and over a million people in California fall into that category.

If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?

Most are displaced middle class workers.

Where they get food is from churches who bring out meals and other relief groups working to mitigate the Democrats Holocaust.

This is all by design, this is what the democrats wanted in California, and they plan to spread it across the nation.

California Housing Crisis: Working But On The Brink Of Homelessness
 



There is no poverty in this nation, merely that propaganda you swallow, and regurgitate here daily.
Read the links, brainwashed functional moron. After 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world. And it just keeps getting worse until the Democrats get in with a landslide.

Over half a century of Democrats feeding the fake welfare system, $22 trillion, the poverty rate is almost the exact same as it was at the start.
  1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
    1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

The single, solitary aim of the Liberal tax-and-give-away program is to accrue votes.
Actually, it's to prevent revolt. When people get miserable enough, they will cause trouble. It is not just Democrats who know this.


So it's fear that fuels you?

Actually, as usual with your posts, the very opposite is true.

  1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
    1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.
Really? Ask the Yellow Vests in Paris why they are angry.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.
socializing costs is what social government should be good for; some on the left are advocating for pioneering reclamation and repurposing technologies, to generate revenue by helping to clean up our environment.
 
As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



You are poor???
Here....let me help:

Some plans if you need some extra bucks: (When Money is Tight, These 9 Resources Can Help You)

6. Make a Little Extra Money While You Watch TV
Surveys aren’t the quickest way to make money, but they’re a great way to cash in on your downtime and pad your pockets for the next rainy day. Fill them out while you’re watching TV, riding the bus or waiting in line.

One survey site we love is called InboxDollars. It offers several short, daily surveys. You earn cash, so you don’t have to worry about exchanging points. It also offers more ways to earn, such as watching videos, playing scratch-off games and searching the internet.

Bonus: You’ll get a free $5 just for signing up!


7. Sell Your Stuff
When you’re short on cash, look to the back of your closet and in the depths of your attic or basement. You’ll almost certainly find a bunch of stuff you don’t use anymore.

A lot of people see this clutter and start plotting a garage sale to earn extra money. The prospect is tempting — but a garage sale might not be worth your time.

Try some alternatives, like selling your stuff online or in town to earn more money with less hassle than hosting a full-blown garage sale. Apps like Letgo and Decluttr make it super easy to sell your stuff without sitting in the front yard and dealing with strangers all day.



More ways to get money without putting your hand in your neighbor’s pocket….next.


I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

iu


Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

iu


This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

iu


This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.




The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.



If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?
Do you have an authoritative source for your definition of poverty (other than yourself)?
This is where she got it. She quoted it:

A Poverty Pulse poll taken by the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, for example, asked: "How would you describe being poor in the U.S.?" The vast majority of responses focused on homelessness, hunger or inability to eat properly, and failure to meet basic needs.

Note the "OR" instead of the "AND" she keeps implying.
It is also not a definition.

Taz put up the real definition:

poverty
noun, often attributive
pov·er·ty | \ˈpä-vər-tē \
Definition of poverty

1a: the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions

b: renunciation as a member of a religious order of the right as an individual to own property

2: SCARCITY, DEARTH

3a: debility due to malnutrition

b: lack of fertility

Definition of POVERTY
 
As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



You are poor???
Here....let me help:

Some plans if you need some extra bucks: (When Money is Tight, These 9 Resources Can Help You)

6. Make a Little Extra Money While You Watch TV
Surveys aren’t the quickest way to make money, but they’re a great way to cash in on your downtime and pad your pockets for the next rainy day. Fill them out while you’re watching TV, riding the bus or waiting in line.

One survey site we love is called InboxDollars. It offers several short, daily surveys. You earn cash, so you don’t have to worry about exchanging points. It also offers more ways to earn, such as watching videos, playing scratch-off games and searching the internet.

Bonus: You’ll get a free $5 just for signing up!


7. Sell Your Stuff
When you’re short on cash, look to the back of your closet and in the depths of your attic or basement. You’ll almost certainly find a bunch of stuff you don’t use anymore.

A lot of people see this clutter and start plotting a garage sale to earn extra money. The prospect is tempting — but a garage sale might not be worth your time.

Try some alternatives, like selling your stuff online or in town to earn more money with less hassle than hosting a full-blown garage sale. Apps like Letgo and Decluttr make it super easy to sell your stuff without sitting in the front yard and dealing with strangers all day.



More ways to get money without putting your hand in your neighbor’s pocket….next.


I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

iu


Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

iu


This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

iu


This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.




The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.



If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?
Do you have an authoritative source for your definition of poverty (other than yourself)?



It's called 'reality.'

Try some.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.
 
I agree with PC to a point. The poverty line income level is a calculation that moves up as America becomes richer.


Shouldn't that tell you that it is a manipulation by the Left, and not actual poverty?

It's as though the voters they keep in line via the public fisc were a union, entitled to yearly raises.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.
 
Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.

The Democrats have formed a coalition of the wealthy ruling elite and the underclass against the working class of America. Its a powerful combination designed to rule. The elites pick the middle class clean through taxes and stay in power by handing it out to the underclass.

As far as the treason..watch Barack Hussein and Felipe Calderon attack US States together.


Watch Democrats in Congress give a standing ovation when a foreign leader attacks US States.


These two videos are proof positive and evidence against the party which instead of protecting its people and states joined with foreign interests to attack American people, states and laws.




No one can ever claim that the Left doesn't understand how to play the game of politics.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.



So you cite them as 'self-anointed' poor.


I'll accept that, in the name of liberty, and freedom of choice.

Let's put them in a separate category, like the mentally ill.

That still removes them from the supposed hordes of government sponsored 'poor.'


And that is my point.....the alleged poor that the Left keeps on retainer shouldn't be.




Prior to Franklin Roosevelt, welfare was handled by charities and churches, carefully considering who got the relief, and the reasons for same.


Under FDR, welfare and charity became a patronage endeavor, to get votes rather than to ease suffering.


The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) doled out relief nationally to those states with the best political connections. The Emergency Relief and Construction Act of 1932 began with the best of intentions...but under the Democrats it went to well-connected friends, including mayors and governors.


Illinois, a swing state, got $55,443,721, which was almost 20% of the RFC's $300 million, more than NY, California, and Texas combined.
Murray Rothbard, "America's Great Depression," p.262-263.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.
increasing our minimum wage will help improve conditions for those who make more than the minimum wage.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.



So you cite them as 'self-anointed' poor.


I'll accept that, in the name of liberty, and freedom of choice.

Let's put them in a separate category, like the mentally ill.

That still removes them from the supposed hordes of government sponsored 'poor.'


And that is my point.....the alleged poor that the Left keeps on retainer shouldn't be.




Prior to Franklin Roosevelt, welfare was handled by charities and churches, carefully considering who got the relief, and the reasons for same.


Under FDR, welfare and charity became a patronage endeavor, to get votes rather than to ease suffering.


The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) doled out relief nationally to those states with the best political connections. The Emergency Relief and Construction Act of 1932 began with the best of intentions...but under the Democrats it went to well-connected friends, including mayors and governors.


Illinois, a swing state, got $55,443,721, which was almost 20% of the RFC's $300 million, more than NY, California, and Texas combined.
Murray Rothbard, "America's Great Depression," p.262-263.
Solving for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.
increasing our minimum wage will help improve conditions for those who make more than the minimum wage.


No stupid fuck, it wouldn't.

You lack the intellect to grasp that currency is just a marker for value. Manipulating fiat currency only changes the scale of the marker, value remains static. I've explained this to you before, but you lack the education, intellect, and sobriety to understand it.
 
There is no poverty in this nation, merely that propaganda you swallow, and regurgitate here daily.
Read the links, brainwashed functional moron. After 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world. And it just keeps getting worse until the Democrats get in with a landslide.

Over half a century of Democrats feeding the fake welfare system, $22 trillion, the poverty rate is almost the exact same as it was at the start.
  1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
    1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

The single, solitary aim of the Liberal tax-and-give-away program is to accrue votes.
Actually, it's to prevent revolt. When people get miserable enough, they will cause trouble. It is not just Democrats who know this.


So it's fear that fuels you?

Actually, as usual with your posts, the very opposite is true.

  1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
    1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.

From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.
Really? Ask the Yellow Vests in Paris why they are angry.



I already know.....taxes.

Taxes...synonymous with Democrats.


. “In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. “
The War on Poverty After 50 Years


It has effectively been a war on taxpayers, and on the US Treasury.
But great for buying votes.


Everybody knows it.....except you.

"But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” The Education of President Obama
 
I agree with PC to a point. The poverty line income level is a calculation that moves up as America becomes richer.


Shouldn't that tell you that it is a manipulation by the Left, and not actual poverty?

It's as though the voters they keep in line via the public fisc were a union, entitled to yearly raises.
I have made the argument in other threads that what we call poor today would be considered rich a hundred or more years ago. However, I lack the authority to force the rest of the world to adhere to definitions that I simply make up, even if I believe my definitions are better than the definitions commonly used.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.



So you cite them as 'self-anointed' poor.


I'll accept that, in the name of liberty, and freedom of choice.

Let's put them in a separate category, like the mentally ill.

That still removes them from the supposed hordes of government sponsored 'poor.'


And that is my point.....the alleged poor that the Left keeps on retainer shouldn't be.




Prior to Franklin Roosevelt, welfare was handled by charities and churches, carefully considering who got the relief, and the reasons for same.


Under FDR, welfare and charity became a patronage endeavor, to get votes rather than to ease suffering.


The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) doled out relief nationally to those states with the best political connections. The Emergency Relief and Construction Act of 1932 began with the best of intentions...but under the Democrats it went to well-connected friends, including mayors and governors.


Illinois, a swing state, got $55,443,721, which was almost 20% of the RFC's $300 million, more than NY, California, and Texas combined.
Murray Rothbard, "America's Great Depression," p.262-263.

The poverty industry is just as you describe it. Ten years ago I was saying just what you are saying now.

But the left has become more insidious. We must take note.
 
As generous as I am, my present today for our Democrat voters, is to remove any necessity for that hand-wringing, or living in that crisis-mode your masters keep you in.

Democrat voters….be prepared to be shocked: there is neither racism nor poverty in this country!
Yup…you’ve been double-lied to….and you bought it like it was on sale.

The thread will concentrate on the latter lie.




There's no poverty, you have no need to either prepare to step over dead bodies due to starvation.....nor to ever vote Democrat again.


1. There is no poverty, no need for you to fork over a third or more of your income to the bosses.
Not the sham perpetuated by the Left to manipulate the soft-hearted/soft-headed to vote Democrat. I mean actual poverty.

Here’s the real definition, not one that is based on some folks having a slightly smaller house than you, or only a 50inch TV….

No Home, No Heat, No Food…..real poverty. If there is such a category in America, it is no more than a rounding error.



2. If you have cable TV….you’re not poor.

3. If you don’t clip the coupons and shop at several grocery stores for the best prices….you know you’re not really poor.

4. If you live in the city, and you have a car….you’re not poor.

5.If you spend more time signing up for government welfare programs rather than looking for creative ways to make some money,….you’re not poor- there are other words to describe you, and they aren't compliments.



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I rarely disagree with you Chickie, but this time i have to. I live in California. We have poverty here, DEEP and abject poverty. At least a million people have no homes, no power, no source of income, no flow of food or fresh water.

What the ruling democrats have done to California is a holocaust. This richest state in the nation has poverty not found outside of Ethiopia. This is by design.

iu


Take a GOOD look America, this is what the democrats have planned for YOU

iu


This is the paradise that democrat rule brings about.

iu


This WILL be you when the democrats gain enough power.

They have absolute power in California and this is the result. No one can challenge them because they rig the elections.




The definition of poverty being no home, no heat, no food.....

.....and doesn't include the mentally ill, who the Democrats pushed out of hospitals under JFK.



If you claim the above are the poor, how many are mentally ill?

And,....where are the rest getting food?
Do you have an authoritative source for your definition of poverty (other than yourself)?
This is where she got it. She quoted it:

A Poverty Pulse poll taken by the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, for example, asked: "How would you describe being poor in the U.S.?" The vast majority of responses focused on homelessness, hunger or inability to eat properly, and failure to meet basic needs.

Note the "OR" instead of the "AND" she keeps implying.
It is also not a definition.

Taz put up the real definition:

poverty
noun, often attributive
pov·er·ty | \ˈpä-vər-tē \
Definition of poverty

1a: the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions

b: renunciation as a member of a religious order of the right as an individual to own property

2: SCARCITY, DEARTH

3a: debility due to malnutrition

b: lack of fertility

Definition of POVERTY



Amazing how you fight to keep the Democrats in control of your money.
You appear quite the dunce.
 
There are people in America that are poor and some are homeless. That being said, these people are rich compared to the poverty experienced in third world nations.


Poverty is NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood
The only individuals who fit into this category are mentally ill.


Not true - not in California. The Communist regime here is waging war on the middle class and has driven hundreds of thousands into NoHome, NoHeat, NoFood. When Southern California Edison, a government monopoly, fired all of the American IT workers and brought in labor from India to replace them, these people were taken from the middle class into no income. Some bounced back, others didn't. This sort of warfare against middle class America is a daily event in California. The ruling Communist party has driven all industry except Silicone Valley. When, not IF, but WHEN China displaces Silicone Valley the single source of wealth in the Peoples Republic will be gone.

We are just like Venezuela. The elite depend on a single source of wealth. In Venezuela it was oil, here it is technology. But we have transferred our technology to China for decades, they already make all of our chips. It won't take much for them to take over the rest. When that happens, California will fall. The once great manufacturing sector has been deliberately destroyed. The Imperial Valley is a desert now with Chile providing the produce that once came from there. The oil fields are abandoned to rust.

We depend on a single source of income that the democrats have treasonously undercut for decades.



If they had no food, they'd be dead.

It's a simple test for mental capacity.

They rely on churches and relief organizations to feed them.

I live here, this is horribly real. It's new, it started about the time Obama came into office. The Communist rulers here in California became emboldened in their attack on the middle class. This may not be where you are, but it will be.


C'mon....you know I live in the People's Republic of NYC
 

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