Zone1 What is race realism?

[Lisa558]

And what "feels right" is manipulating the good intentions and generosity of the American people, who have since their nation was founded have set the modern standard of diversity and inclusiveness. The nation, it's majority population and new immigrants made assimilation a desire. It was not imposed. Often by the second generation, immigrants from diverse backgrounds were proud to be Americans.

Ironically, this more recent campaign of "diversity, inclusion and equity" (DIE) is anything but that. It is an imposed campaign that divides and rejects assimilation, rejects America's traditions, rejects America's majority and, in practice, rejects democracy and capitalism ("equity").

Yes, absolutely true. We have always been a country that welcomed legal immigrants, and the immigrants were eager to become full-fledged Americans by learning English and otherwise adapting to American ways, demonstrating their unity with their new country.

Now, as you point out, it’s the opposite. The Democrats are doing everything possible to emphasize our differences and divide us into all sorts of sub-groups - blacks, whites, gays, immigrants, etc.

It is the very opposite of E Pluribus Unum.

 

[BlackSand]

Yet the DIE promoters, who's primary job is peddling race, claims otherwise.


There is no reason to praise diversity and disunity if all you are doing is making a bunch of cruddy employees and a less cohesive organization.


All of which are best served with unity of purpose.

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I simply provided clear definitive statements that addressed the core of each issue.
If you need to add clarifications to support your additional concerns ... That in no way serves my purpose.

I couldn't care less what anyone's race is ... Until they choose to make race an issue.

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[IM2]

Did you read what I just wrote?? I said I support advantage given to kids from poorer homes, race irrelevant.

And that also proves that your claim that this is just about race is a lie.

No it really doesn't Lisa.

You deny actual lower standards for whites claiming that legacy is not race when legacy is a result of racial discrimination, ignore 246 years of white favoritism and want to remove what has at least reduced complete white favoritism. So what you want is white preference.

 

[Friends]

"Diversity," as defined by the DIE/CRT movement, is not logically conducive to most organizations goals. Unity in plan, action and goal makes more sense. "Diversity," by definition, is an antonym (opposite) of "unity."

The DIE people use references to organizations benefiting, such as increased profits, better employees, etc with disunity, but those references lead no where or to other Leftist proponents ("scholars", "experts," "studies," etc) that are less than credible. Yet, DIE continues to infiltrate government, schools, businesses and other organizations. It now exists in the US federal government, the US military, most universities, all of the Fortune 100 and most of the Fortune 500, for example.

"Diversity is our strength" has become a theological dogma. It expresses hope, rather than something for which there is tangible evidence.

 

[IM2]

Yes, absolutely true. We have always been a country that welcomed legal immigrants, and the immigrants were eager to become full-fledged Americans by learning English and otherwise adapting to American ways, demonstrating their unity with their new country.

Now, as you point out, it’s the opposite. The Democrats are doing everything possible to emphasize our differences and divide us into all sorts of sub-groups - blacks, whites, gays, immigrants, etc.

It is the very opposite of E Pluribus Unum.

English was not the original language of this nation. You descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants today. Americans need to face the truth of our history instead of continuing to make believe.

 

[IM2]

"Diversity is our strength" has become a theological dogma. It expresses hope, rather than something for which there is tangible evidence.

There is tangible evidence that diversity is our strength.

 

[Friends]

No it really doesn't Lisa.

You deny actual lower standards for whites claiming that legacy is not race when legacy is a result of racial discrimination, ignore 246 years of white favoritism and want to remove what has at least reduced complete white favoritism. So what you want is white preference.

White favoritism is not the reason whites of European origin - including Jews - have created the most advanced, affluent and human civilization in history. IQ power is.

Those who blame white racism for black social pathology cannot explain why black social pathology has gotten worse since the beginning of 1964. The better we treat Negroes the worse they behave. This is what segregationists predicted would happen during the civil rights movement, if blacks were given equal rights.

 

[Friends]

There is tangible evidence that diversity is our strength.

What is the evidence? Why does homogeneous Japan perform so well?

 

[IM2]

No, it wasn’t - and that is at the crux of the case. They designed the personality test as a way to give more points to blacks and fewer points to whites and Asians. The SCOTUS will rule on whether one can develop admissions tests and criteria designed to meet a pre-determined racial outcome.

You do know, I hope, that the SCOTUS will rule against Harvard. There are only three leftists in the Court, and one of them will recuse herself due to her conflict-of-interest. That means six justices who follow the Constitution, and two who don’t.

No. The case is about discrimination by race.

If you knew the facts of the case and not what your bias wants you to believe, then you know SCOTUS can't end AA at Harvard based on the claim of Asians being discriminated against when they are the largest minority group at Harvard.

 

[Riff Raff]

English was not the original language of this nation.

You crack me up!

 

[Lisa558]

No it really doesn't Lisa.

You deny actual lower standards for whites claiming that legacy is not race when legacy is a result of racial discrimination, ignore 246 years of white favoritism and want to remove what has at least reduced complete white favoritism. So what you want is white preference.

No, what you want is black preference. I want race to be irrelevant.

 

[Friends]

If you knew the facts of the case and not what your bias wants you to believe, then you know SCOTUS can't end AA at Harvard based on the claim of Asians being discriminated against when they are the largest minority group at Harvard.

They are also, on the average, the most talented, and consequently the most deserving.

 

[Lisa558]

English was not the original language of this nation. You descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants today. Americans need to face the truth of our history instead of continuing to make believe.

What do you mean I descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants. I DO descend from immigrants, and they came here legally.

And what’s this mysterious “truth of our history”? Slavery? We learned that. Jim Crow laws? Learned that too.

You seem to think that American history is solely about blacks, and little else.

 

[Lisa558]

What is the evidence? Why does homogeneous Japan perform so well?

Asians as a whole are very smart, disciplined, hard-working, and prioritize education.

 

[BlackSand]

There is tangible evidence that diversity is our strength.

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If you want to suggest that diversity achieves stronger diversity, and diversity is your goal ...
That's a given tangible result simply in its existence.

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[Lisa558]

If you knew the facts of the case and not what your bias wants you to believe, then you know SCOTUS can't end AA at Harvard based on the claim of Asians being discriminated against when they are the largest minority group at Harvard.

How many there are means nothing. This isn’t a numbers game. The reason there are so many of them is because they tend to be superior students. It is the same reason why Jews are overrepresented.

That any of them are being rejected on some flimsy excuse that they’re not likeable, while admitting inferior students based on race, is illegal.

 

[IM2]

White favoritism is not the reason whites of European origin - including Jews - have created the most advanced, affluent and human civilization in history. IQ power is.

Those who blame white racism for black social pathology cannot explain why black social pathology has gotten worse since the beginning of 1964. The better we treat Negroes the worse they behave.

Actually it is. When laws are made excluding everybody else because they are not white, white favoritism is why whites advanced. Those who say what you did in the last sentence say so without evidence.

There is massive evidence that white racism is the root cause of our problem and.:

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and blackon-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.”

The only pathology that has seemed to increase is the ability for members of the racist subculture in the white community to voice crazy false opinions that are enabled instead of rebuked.

 

[Friends]

You seem to think that American history is solely about blacks, and little else.

The worst thing European settlers and their descendants did in the Americas was to allow the slave trade. North and South America would be far better off with virtually no Negroes. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Mod edit to delete racist comment.

 

[IM2]

How many there are means nothing. This isn’t a numbers game. The reason there are so many of them is because they tend to be superior students.

That any of them are being rejected on some flimsy excuse that they’re not likeable, while admitting inferior students based on race, is illegal.

It does mean something. If they are the largest minority group, they are not being discriminated against. And again there is proof of who gets favored and that proof shows that no one is getting discriminated against ONLY for blacks.

“Using publicly released reports, we examine the preferences Harvard gives for recruited athletes, legacies, those on the dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff (ALDCs). Among white admits, over 43% are ALDC. Among admits who are African American, Asian American, and Hispanic, the share is less than 16% each. Our model of admissions shows that roughly three quarters of white ALDC admits would have been rejected if they had been treated as white non-ALDCs. Removing preferences for athletes and legacies would significantly alter the racial distribution of admitted students, with the share of white admits falling and all other groups rising or remaining unchanged.”

-National Bureau of Economic Research

 

[Friends]

Actually it is. When laws are made excluding everybody else because they are not white, white favoritism is why whites advanced. Those who say what you did in the last sentence say so without evidence.

There is massive evidence that white racism is the root cause of our problem and.:

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and blackon-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.”

The only pathology that has seemed to increase is the ability for members of the racist subculture in the white community to voice crazy false opinions that are enabled instead of rebuked.

From 1994 to 2015 crime declined because of a growing prison population, and because millions of potential criminals were aborted. I have read that after the Roe vs Wade decision of 1973 over half of black pregnancies were terminated by abortion.

Nevertheless, in 1994 blacks had a much higher crime rate than whites. In 2015 they still did. They still do.