What is the republican solution to ending mass shootings? Why don’t they ever offer solutions?

[Redfish]

many people in the USA today are not very stable either. They are the ones that are doing the shootings, but you want to punish law abiding citizens for the acts of criminals.

so, using that logic, we should ban cars because some drunk drivers have killed people.

Our country and government is very stable relative to Africa. We have much better law enforcement which is not corrupt.

true, then why are the dems constantly harping about police brutality?

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

our high gun crime rates are limited to a few of our big cities, and only in certain sections of those cities--------the south side of Chicago and the lower ninth ward in New Orleans are just two examples.

 

[Brain357]

Our country and government is very stable relative to Africa. We have much better law enforcement which is not corrupt.

true, then why are the dems constantly harping about police brutality?

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

 

[Blues Man]

you have no way of knowing that. if they were stolen they might have been bought legally originally, if they were smuggled in from mexico, probably not.

I support stringent background and ID checks for gun purchases-------------------and for immigration and voting. Do you?

So you support the universal background check legistlation?

We already have universal background checks. I support expanding the data base to include all medical, school, and employment records--------which are now sealed and not available.

Private sales require no background check. Straw buyers easily sell guns to criminals.

A straw purchase is when a person with a clean record legally buys a gun to give it to a person who can't legally buy a gun not to sell it to a person

I’m quite certain gangs pay straw buyers. You think they do it for nothing?

Yeah because most of the time the straw buyers are their family members

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ficspi16.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3K8_isoNfJ2TTx_gRw4dSf

 

[dblack]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

Are you starting with the assumption that the only "solution" is another law?

 

[Redfish]

you have no way of knowing that. if they were stolen they might have been bought legally originally, if they were smuggled in from mexico, probably not.

I support stringent background and ID checks for gun purchases-------------------and for immigration and voting. Do you?

So you support the universal background check legistlation?

We already have universal background checks. I support expanding the data base to include all medical, school, and employment records--------which are now sealed and not available.

Private sales require no background check. Straw buyers easily sell guns to criminals.

How do you propose to do a background check when one gang member trades a gun to a fellow gang member for a bag of crack? Or, when a grandfather gives his shot gun or rifle or pistol to his grandson?

Gun transfers should go through a dealer.

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Legal ones already do. there is no way you are going to get the gangbangers to comply with those laws.

 

[Brain357]

Our country and government is very stable relative to Africa. We have much better law enforcement which is not corrupt.

true, then why are the dems constantly harping about police brutality?

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

our high gun crime rates are limited to a few of our big cities, and only in certain sections of those cities--------the south side of Chicago and the lower ninth ward in New Orleans are just two examples.

Our mass killing aren’t limited that way. Europe has cities and gangs too, much less gun crime.

 

[Brain357]

So you support the universal background check legistlation?

We already have universal background checks. I support expanding the data base to include all medical, school, and employment records--------which are now sealed and not available.

Private sales require no background check. Straw buyers easily sell guns to criminals.

How do you propose to do a background check when one gang member trades a gun to a fellow gang member for a bag of crack? Or, when a grandfather gives his shot gun or rifle or pistol to his grandson?

Gun transfers should go through a dealer.

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Legal ones already do. there is no way you are going to get the gangbangers to comply with those laws.

Yes but it will make catching straw buyers much easier.

 

[Blues Man]

true, then why are the dems constantly harping about police brutality?

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

 

[M14 Shooter]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

The easiest and most effective way to reduce violent crime is make it easier for the law abiding to defend themselves.
As the Democrats have no real interest in reducing violent crime, all they do is say "no".
Thus, we are still at square one.

 

[Brain357]

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

 

[Taz]

The Republican solution is to buy yet another gun and then go back to the 'shine.

Maryland and Illinois have some of the toughest gun laws, yet they have the highest murder rates. How is this possible? It appears the Democratic answer is to take guns and protection away from law abiding citizens, then ignore the increase in murders.

You can more easily buy guns in neighbouring states. Without national gun standards, it can't work. But it does give you a perfectly good strawman argument. So there's that.

you cannot legally buy guns in those states without a background check. Most of the guns in Chicago were not bought legally. your naivete is amazing.

Originally those guns WERE bought legally. We need to fix where the breakdowns are happening when all these guns become gangsta guns.

you have no way of knowing that. if they were stolen they might have been bought legally originally, if they were smuggled in from mexico, probably not.

I support stringent background and ID checks for gun purchases-------------------and for immigration and voting. Do you?

Yes, and a wall... but we need to do something about all the gun violence too.

 

[Brain357]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

The easiest and most effective way to reduce violent crime is make it easier for the law abiding to defend themselves.
As the Democrats have no real interest in reducing violent crime, all they do is say "no".
Thus, we are still at square one.

WI got concealed carry and the homicide rate has increased. Large gains in carry have not decreased crime. Crime plummeted after we got background checks.

 

[Blues Man]

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

And there is more than just one variable that contributes to the violence in a society.

We have more murders in areas where there are fewer guns per person than in many other parts of the country.

If you were right then there should be more murder where there are more guns per person and that is just not the case

 

[Taz]

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

And there is more than just one variable that contributes to the violence in a society.

We have more murders in areas where there are fewer guns per person than in many other parts of the country.

If you were right then there should be more murder where there are more guns per person and that is just not the case

Because hillbillies in rural areas are obsessed with having lots of guns... and ‘shine.

 

[pismoe]

true, then why are the dems constantly harping about police brutality?

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

-------------------------------- people have the RIGHT to own as many guns as they like same as 'jay leno' has the right to own as many Death Dealing cars as he likes Brian . -------------- just a comment !!

 

[Brain357]

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

And there is more than just one variable that contributes to the violence in a society.

We have more murders in areas where there are fewer guns per person than in many other parts of the country.

If you were right then there should be more murder where there are more guns per person and that is just not the case

Yes there are many factors. Areas with no big cities and few people tend to have less murder. Gangs go where people are. And gangs in countries with strong gun control kill fewer people.

 

[Blues Man]

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

And there is more than just one variable that contributes to the violence in a society.

We have more murders in areas where there are fewer guns per person than in many other parts of the country.

If you were right then there should be more murder where there are more guns per person and that is just not the case

Because hillbillies in rural areas are obsessed with having lots of guns... and ‘shine.

And there are more murders in inner cities where there are fewer guns per person

 

[Blues Man]

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

You just proved that most guns cannot be used for anything because most gun owners own more than 2 guns but only have 2 hands

The funny part is you don't realize it

Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. We regularly suffer mass shootings. Plenty are being used clearly.

And there is more than just one variable that contributes to the violence in a society.

We have more murders in areas where there are fewer guns per person than in many other parts of the country.

If you were right then there should be more murder where there are more guns per person and that is just not the case

Yes there are many factors. Areas with no big cities and few people tend to have less murder. Gangs go where people are. And gangs in countries with strong gun control kill fewer people.

WHen you use murders per 100000 the differences in population are accounted for

 

[Brain357]

They are wrong. We have a gun problem, not a cop problem. Cops shoot many and are themselves shot often. This is from too many guns.

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

-------------------------------- people have the RIGHT to own as many guns as they like same as 'jay leno' has the right to own as many Death Dealing cars as he likes Brian . -------------- just a comment !!

The number seems to be based on how scared they are. Europe has much more courage, what a strange turn.

 

[Blues Man]

.0027% of guns are actually used to commit murder

That ain't much of a problem

That number is based on how many guns we have. Many owners have hundreds of guns. Our gun crime rates are huge compared to other countries. Nice dishonest argument though.

it's not dishonest it's a cold hard fact.

11000 murders with guns
393000000 guns in hands of the American public

This is 5th grade math

People have hundreds of guns and 2 hands. It is completely dishonest as are you clearly.

-------------------------------- people have the RIGHT to own as many guns as they like same as 'jay leno' has the right to own as many Death Dealing cars as he likes Brian . -------------- just a comment !!

The number seems to be based on how scared they are. Europe has much more courage, what a strange turn.

yeah that's why they need our military to protect them