What Is Wrong With Liberals??

[frigidweirdo]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

 

[frigidweirdo]

What Is Wrong With Liberals??


well just off hand i would say their brain, if they ever had one has been infected with a brain eating amoeba their ability to "think" has been taken over by "FEEEEEEEEL"

to be very abrupt..., liberscum are just plain America hating fucking S

Are you trying to show that you're using your brain here? Because it doesn't look like it. Maybe next time eh?

 

[Redfish]

I said "obama and the dems". The dems authorized, funded, and supported all of those stupid wars. Dems started the viet nam "war" where 58,000 americans died for nothing. your history is totally fucked up.

News flash, dems started the 2003 Iraq War. Are you joking me?

Vietnam was not a war just started by any one party. In 1950 Truman sent in US troops to assist with the $10 million worth of equipment sent in. 1954 there were US pilots flying planes there.
The Vietnam Veterans Memorial officially recognises US involvement in 1955 under Eisenhower.

But the war had been going on before this. The US didn't start the war at all. US involvement happened at different times under every post war president, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson. Yes, three were Democrats, but that ignores the reality that ANY individual as president would probably have done very similar things.

our involvement in viet nam started earlier, the escalation was done by Kennedy and Johnson. Nixon ended it by declaring defeat.

The first Iraq war was to liberate Kuwait from Saddam's invasion. Whether it was right or wrong, it was authorized, funded, and supported by both parties. The dems cannot deny responsibility for any of our stupid wasteful wars.

 

[Redfish]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

 

[frigidweirdo]

our involvement in viet nam started earlier, the escalation was done by Kennedy and Johnson. Nixon ended it by declaring defeat.

The first Iraq war was to liberate Kuwait from Saddam's invasion. Whether it was right or wrong, it was authorized, funded, and supported by both parties. The dems cannot deny responsibility for any of our stupid wasteful wars.

You spoke about staring it, now you're backtracking onto escalating. Hmm. It's neither here nor there anyway.

The first Iraq war, which wasn't in Iraq and wasn't in 2003, you mean that Iraq War? Why are you talking about that?

Oh, so Bush was president so it was funded and supported by both parties, your claim of Vietnam seemed to be it was ALL the fault of the democrats merely because the President was Democrat at the time of escalation.

Hmm, I see, double standards again.

No, dems NOR reps can deny responsibility for the many stupid and wasteful wars that have exists.

But.... look at the last two presidents. One went all out war mongering, made a common enemy the west could fight against and he made the situation worse. He increased Islamic extremism. Obama has attempted to reduce the problem, but it's gotten so far out of hand he doesn't stand a chance.

There's the difference.

Or Clinton, 8 years without going around the world picking too many fights, without making a common enemy after the fall of the USSR.

Simple fact is, the right need wars in order to be tough on things.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

Actually I was just working within the framework that you gave. I really don't need to go around calling other people strange to make myself feel better about not being born differently.

You say "no one wants to deny rights to these people", that's absolute bull, there are plenty on this board, including you, who do.

You use definitions and words to try and redefine what is putting people into a second class situation and those who are allowed to be in first place.

Marriage has changed a word. Get over it.

In the UK marriage is two consenting adults. In South Africa marriage is two consenting adults. In Australia marriage is two consenting adults. In Canada marriage is two consenting adults.

Get over it.

Why the hell do you care about the meaning of a word?

You think marriage is so damn special seeing as HALF of all marriages end in divorce. Special? Not at all.

 

[RKMBrown]

more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.

How many times have said declarations fallen on your deaf and dumb ears?

You tell me. I thought I'd always been pretty open to your 'declarations'.

Depends on the topic. We agree on topics where democrats are for liberty... and we disagree on topics where democrats are against liberty.

Like the liberty for gays to marry one another? The liberty for a women to obtain an abortion? The liberty to board an airplane without having to be poked, prodded, and x-rayed?

Two consenting adults of the same sex getting married harms no one.

Abortion kills the baby.. killing someone with forethought is not liberty, it is murder.

Yes, one with no record of violence, and having shown no evidence that they might be about to do something violent, should be able to get in their car or bus or train or plane without being poked, prodded, and x-rayed.

 

[RKMBrown]

liberty ... like the liberty to do as you please so far as you don't harm others... IOW liberty is not the liberty to take liberty away from others and cause them harm

So... I really wouldn't put the Republican Party down as those who love liberty then.

The main reason is that they try and hide behind stuff, pretend they're good but in fact are taking liberty away. Having a common enemy (USSR/Islam) has always been used to impose restrictions on people while supposedly "fighting for freedom", yet as in the case of fighting Islam, they're making things worse, not better, they're reducing freedoms in the US and all over the world for a lot of people.

There are many factions within the republican party... not every republican is a PNAC authoritarian war hawk.

 

[RKMBrown]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

Are you mentally handicapped? Why would anyone claim a homosexual marriage is a heterosexual marriage? Seriously, are you retarded?

 

[frigidweirdo]

There are many factions within the republican party... not every republican is a PNAC authoritarian war hawk.

Of course. I'm making sweeping generalisations. What else can I do? Write about each individual faction or individual who has a difference of opinion. In general I'm talking about those who make it to the top of the game, those who represent the party more than others.

 

[RKMBrown]

There are many factions within the republican party... not every republican is a PNAC authoritarian war hawk.

Of course. I'm making sweeping generalisations. What else can I do? Write about each individual faction or individual who has a difference of opinion. In general I'm talking about those who make it to the top of the game, those who represent the party more than others.

For one, you can say to hell with the democrats and republicans and vote libertarian...

 

[Redfish]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

Are you mentally handicapped? Why would anyone claim a homosexual marriage is a heterosexual marriage? Seriously, are you retarded?

Its the gay agenda that wants society to view them as the same, not me.

Seriously, I think you are smart enough to understand that if gay marriage is legalized, then there is absolutely no legal argument that can be brought against all forms of multi person marriage.

They will argue that their rights to marry whoever they choose are being denied and they will cite gay marriage as precedent------AND THEY WILL WIN THE CASE.

Is that the future that you see for your children and grand children?

 

[Redfish]

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.

How many times have said declarations fallen on your deaf and dumb ears?

You tell me. I thought I'd always been pretty open to your 'declarations'.

Depends on the topic. We agree on topics where democrats are for liberty... and we disagree on topics where democrats are against liberty.

Like the liberty for gays to marry one another? The liberty for a women to obtain an abortion? The liberty to board an airplane without having to be poked, prodded, and x-rayed?

Two consenting adults of the same sex getting married harms no one.

Abortion kills the baby.. killing someone with forethought is not liberty, it is murder.

Yes, one with no record of violence, and having shown no evidence that they might be about to do something violent, should be able to get in their car or bus or train or plane without being poked, prodded, and x-rayed.[/QUOTE]


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so you want a background check on every person before they board a plane? How exactly would that work.

What if the suicide bomber is 14 and has no record of violence?

 

[frigidweirdo]

For one, you can say to hell with the democrats and republicans and vote libertarian...

Well, any third party as long as they're not Communists or Nazis.

 

[Redfish]

For one, you can say to hell with the democrats and republicans and vote libertarian...

Well, any third party as long as they're not Communists or Nazis.

No third party will win. Voting for a third party will help the worst candidate from the two major parties.

I wish that was not the case, but it is.

The Perot vote elected Clinton.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No third party will win. Voting for a third party will help the worst candidate from the two major parties.

I wish that was not the case, but it is.

The Perot vote elected Clinton.

Yeah, everyone says it, so it becomes true. The problem is, the whole damn system needs to change.

 

[RKMBrown]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

Are you mentally handicapped? Why would anyone claim a homosexual marriage is a heterosexual marriage? Seriously, are you retarded?

Its the gay agenda that wants society to view them as the same, not me.

Seriously, I think you are smart enough to understand that if gay marriage is legalized, then there is absolutely no legal argument that can be brought against all forms of multi person marriage.

They will argue that their rights to marry whoever they choose are being denied and they will cite gay marriage as precedent------AND THEY WILL WIN THE CASE.

Is that the future that you see for your children and grand children?

Not true. They don't want to be heterosexual and married. They want to have their rights restored, that's all, so they can be homosexual and married.

Yes I want my children and grandchildren to grow up in a country where bigotry is not excused by the majority.

 

[RKMBrown]

For one, you can say to hell with the democrats and republicans and vote libertarian...

Well, any third party as long as they're not Communists or Nazis.

No third party will win. Voting for a third party will help the worst candidate from the two major parties.

I wish that was not the case, but it is.

The Perot vote elected Clinton.

You do realize of course that republicans and democrats are not the only parties we've had in this country, yes?

 

[RKMBrown]

How many times have said declarations fallen on your deaf and dumb ears?

You tell me. I thought I'd always been pretty open to your 'declarations'.

Depends on the topic. We agree on topics where democrats are for liberty... and we disagree on topics where democrats are against liberty.

Like the liberty for gays to marry one another? The liberty for a women to obtain an abortion? The liberty to board an airplane without having to be poked, prodded, and x-rayed?

Two consenting adults of the same sex getting married harms no one.

Abortion kills the baby.. killing someone with forethought is not liberty, it is murder.

Yes, one with no record of violence, and having shown no evidence that they might be about to do something violent, should be able to get in their car or bus or train or plane without being poked, prodded, and x-rayed.

so you want a background check on every person before they board a plane? How exactly would that work.

What if the suicide bomber is 14 and has no record of violence?

It would work electronically when you show your identification to pick up your ticket.

The existing system in the USA would not stop a 14 year old suicide bomber from killing people... more specifically the 14year old would kill more people than fit in an airplane if he blew himself up at the location where they currently check everyone for dozens of planes.

 

[Jroc]

gay "marriage" is an oxymoron. It denies the reality of human biology.

Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So too do hermaphrodites, they deny the reality of human biology. Clearly they don't exist.

I could list loads of deformities which kids are born with, and you'd say they deny human biology. Better make sure they can't marry then, eh?

You made my point. Gays have a mental "deformity". Calling a gay union a marriage is to deny human biology, just as calling a hermaphrodite a sexuallly normal human would be be.

No one wants to deny rights to these people, but they do not need the word 'marriage' to have equal rights.

Are you mentally handicapped? Why would anyone claim a homosexual marriage is a heterosexual marriage? Seriously, are you retarded?

Its the gay agenda that wants society to view them as the same, not me.

Seriously, I think you are smart enough to understand that if gay marriage is legalized, then there is absolutely no legal argument that can be brought against all forms of multi person marriage.

They will argue that their rights to marry whoever they choose are being denied and they will cite gay marriage as precedent------AND THEY WILL WIN THE CASE.

Is that the future that you see for your children and grand children?

Not true. They don't want to be heterosexual and married. They want to have their rights restored, that's all, so they can be homosexual and married.

Yes I want my children and grandchildren to grow up in a country where bigotry is not excused by the majority.

the right to marriage doesn't exist. States set their own laws regarding marriage. Age limits, you can't marry more than one person, you cant marry close relatives ect.