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What Is Wrong With Liberals??

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!


more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.
 
You libs are a hoot, you claim the founders were horrible slave owning conservatives then you claim they are liberals I guess it depends on what liberal propaganda is being spun day to day.

I know such things might be hard for you to get your head around, but a lot of them were slave owners, and quite a few were liberals. Some were conservatives, but as a collective FOR THEIR TIME they were liberal.

Do you not understand the term "relative"?
 
more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

Lies? The point I was making that for their time they were mostly liberal. You write this but claim when I say it's a lie. Er....

Liberalism has failed huh? Actually it's conservatism that has failed. The world is far more liberal now than it was back in the day. The world moves forwards, it usually moves forwards liberally, not always. Conservatism seems to have been quite successful in places like Louisiana and Iran, North Korea etc etc.
 
You libs are a hoot, you claim the founders were horrible slave owning conservatives then you claim they are liberals I guess it depends on what liberal propaganda is being spun day to day.

I know such things might be hard for you to get your head around, but a lot of them were slave owners, and quite a few were liberals. Some were conservatives, but as a collective FOR THEIR TIME they were liberal.

Do you not understand the term "relative"?

Here's something easy to get your head around, liberals lie.
 
The Constitution is the only document that the American people agreed to be governed by.

In it, is the instruction on how to alter it.

It is not done by Liberal judges.

I don't insult....I correctly identify.

How many people signed the constitution? All 4 million of them? No..... Just a few. Did all the people agree to the constitution? Well they could have gone to Canada, mind, most of them couldn't even read the damn thing.

Yes, there are instructions on how to alter it. It isn't by referendum, if you actually read the constitution you'd know how to change the constitution. It's pretty clear.

You insult, don't act like a petulant school kid, you're a petulant adult, and try and act like a bloody adult for once.


"Yes, there are instructions on how to alter it. It isn't by referendum, if you actually read the constitution you'd know how to change the constitution. It's pretty clear."

Earlier I called you a moron.

I was wrong.

You're an imbecile.




The point was that judges have no right to alter the results of referenda unless it the language of the Constitution is infracted.

Not their 'opinion'....the actual Constitution.

I referred to the amendment process. Those are the instructions.
I never said that a referendum could change the Constitution.
Nor can a judges decision.
Both Hamilton and Madison who wrote the bulk of the Federalist papers could not agree with what the constitution actually means on all issues, yet somehow you can?


Wrong again.

.This was not what the Federalists had argued when the Constitution was being debated.
The agreement was that federal courts could hear such suits when they had been initiated by the states. And that is exactly what is stated in the 11th amendment: federal court's jurisdiction had to be read narrowly!

Am
I
the only one
who wonders
wtf Polishtic
is trying to say
most of the time?
 
The Constitution is the only document that the American people agreed to be governed by.

In it, is the instruction on how to alter it.

It is not done by Liberal judges.

I don't insult....I correctly identify.

How many people signed the constitution? All 4 million of them? No..... Just a few. Did all the people agree to the constitution? Well they could have gone to Canada, mind, most of them couldn't even read the damn thing.

Yes, there are instructions on how to alter it. It isn't by referendum, if you actually read the constitution you'd know how to change the constitution. It's pretty clear.

You insult, don't act like a petulant school kid, you're a petulant adult, and try and act like a bloody adult for once.


"Yes, there are instructions on how to alter it. It isn't by referendum, if you actually read the constitution you'd know how to change the constitution. It's pretty clear."

Earlier I called you a moron.

I was wrong.

You're an imbecile.




The point was that judges have no right to alter the results of referenda unless it the language of the Constitution is infracted.

Not their 'opinion'....the actual Constitution.

I referred to the amendment process. Those are the instructions.
I never said that a referendum could change the Constitution.
Nor can a judges decision.
Both Hamilton and Madison who wrote the bulk of the Federalist papers could not agree with what the constitution actually means on all issues, yet somehow you can?


Wrong again.

.This was not what the Federalists had argued when the Constitution was being debated.
The agreement was that federal courts could hear such suits when they had been initiated by the states. And that is exactly what is stated in the 11th amendment: federal court's jurisdiction had to be read narrowly!

Am
I
the only one
who wonders
wtf Polishtic
is trying to say
most of the time?

Yes.
 
Why do you hate the freedom of speech so much?


Nice try. We're not.
We oppose political correctness and speech codes.
We are not the ones who are perpetually offended.
We are not the ones who go through our day looking for things with which to bother ourselves.
We are not the ones who practice identity politics.
We do not place people into groups for political reasons, then pit those groups against each other.
We do not look to tax people because we are 'uncomfortable' with the size of their bank accounts.
We do not identify people by their race creed color or culture.
We do not enjoy the blanket of freedom provided by our military then question the means by which that freedom is provided.
We do not publicly destroy women and members of minority groups just because they do not abide by the liberal code.


I disagree. I think the OP hates when a liberal uses it. Nearly everyone of your points can be used for either party.
 
Iraq was about several things
1. oil
2. Saddam trying to kill Bush 41
3. bad intel
4. americas desire to get even for 9/11
5. the unfinished first gulf war

and remember, both parties authorized, funded, and supported that fiasco, just like they all supported the viet nam fiasco.

Bad intel because Bush told them to go find intel that proved what he needed. Perhaps revenge was there. But the big factor is that Bush wasn't the man pulling the strings, he was the puppet, and the puppet can only do so much.


not true. Unless you are saying that all of the following were also puppets: the UN, EU, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Israel, Australia, Canada, et al.

Who is your "puppet master in the sky" who controlled all of these people, countries, and organizations? Was it the evil darth vader cheney? Its amazing what power you libs ascribe to that one man. your hate blocks your ability to think.

I get it that you hate Bush because he beat your clowns twice in close elections. But, how about preserving what little credibility you have by stopping the lies?

Germany, France, Saudi Arabia and Canada were all opposed to the invasion.
 
Iraq wasn't about oil, now Libya was about oil SOS Clinton admitted it.

How on earth was Iraq not about oil?

Then again you're clearly backing up my point, that people will lie, and then people like you are willing to believe all the lies.


Iraq was about several things
1. oil
2. Saddam trying to kill Bush 41
3. bad intel
4. americas desire to get even for 9/11
5. the unfinished first gulf war

and remember, both parties authorized, funded, and supported that fiasco, just like they all supported the viet nam fiasco.

Is it bad intel if it is just made up?
 
What is wrong with liberals?

Nothing much, other than the fact that there are so few of them these days, what with so much of the left having been taken over by identity politics and multiculturalism.
 
by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!


more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.
 
by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!


more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.
How many times have said declarations fallen on your deaf and dumb ears?
 
by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!


more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.

"Original Intent" Republicans would like to go back to the days when only wealthy white male landowners could vote, and Blacks and women were chattel.
 
by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!


more lies. Culture changes. in the 1700s slavery was an accepted way of life. All cultures and civilizations in history have had slaves. Most of civilization has developed to the point that we now treat slavery as a crime. It is foolish to try to inject current culture on the people of the 1700s. Madonna and Beyonce would have been burned at the stake or dunked as witches in those days.

What is true, however, is that liberalism has failed everywhere and every time it has been tried. Socialism, marxism, and communism have also been massive failures. Freedom and capitalism made the USA the greatest nation in history and you libtards are determined to destroy it.

How many times have I heard rightwingers wanting to get back to what the founding fathers intended as if they were prophets or something.

"Original Intent" Republicans would like to go back to the days when only wealthy white male landowners could vote, and Blacks and women were chattel.
^ retard thinks the federal government managed who voted at the start of our nation... ROFL
 

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