What Is Wrong With Liberals??

[ClosedCaption]

Hey bitch, what does your dd214 say? Honorable? Or do you even have one? Mine says honorable. In this day and age you have zero excuse for not serving your nation.

Calling her a bitch is dishonorable. See what I'm saying? Grow up.

Yeah Old Rocks when someone says you hate your country show some respect /sarcasm likea mufucker

 

[TemplarKormac]

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Speaking for the founders? Did they really go around spitting on people? Sounds like a conservative thing.

Surely you forget how antiwar liberals spat on our soldiers coming home from Vietnam. Sounds like a liberal thing to me.

 

[rightwinger]

This guy is useless and not to bright

Bright enough to know the difference between "too" and "to"

I wasn't going to go there!



Debate the subject - unless you're too small intellectually and must, instead, go after the poster.

I try to avoid attacking spelling and grammar errors........but if someones whole post is to attack your intelligence, I can't avoid the irony

 

[rightwinger]

????

Speaking for the founders? Did they really go around spitting on people? Sounds like a conservative thing.

Surely you forget how antiwar liberals spat on our soldiers coming home from Vietnam. Sounds like a liberal thing to me.

Do you have a link to that actually happening? My recollections were that a lot more "hippie" protesters were spat upon than returning soldiers

And don't call me Shirley

 

[Mac1958]

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I just wonder one thing, and there may be a perfectly reasonable answer for it:

Why would you want to "change", "fundamentally transform" and "re-make" something that you love?

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[ClosedCaption]

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I just wonder one thing, and there may be a perfectly reasonable answer for it:

Why would you want to "change", "fundamentally transform" and "re-make" something that you love?

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Because changing something has nothing to do with the amount of love you have for it. If you have your house remodeled does that mean you hate it? According to Mac yes.

But if you hate something you would just abandon it wouldnt you? Ahhhhh thats the point

 

[Mac1958]

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I just wonder one thing, and there may be a perfectly reasonable answer for it:

Why would you want to "change", "fundamentally transform" and "re-make" something that you love?

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Because changing something has nothing to do with the amount of love you have for it. If you have your house remodeled does that mean you hate it? According to Mac yes.

But if you hate something you would just abandon it wouldnt you? Ahhhhh thats the point

"According to Mac yes."

This is why it's so tough to communicate with partisan ideologues. Constant straw man silliness, intellectual dishonesty.

Anyway, if CC speaks for many on the Left, I guess it would be that you folks love what you wish America was. Like a nicer house.

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[ClosedCaption]

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I just wonder one thing, and there may be a perfectly reasonable answer for it:

Why would you want to "change", "fundamentally transform" and "re-make" something that you love?

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Because changing something has nothing to do with the amount of love you have for it. If you have your house remodeled does that mean you hate it? According to Mac yes.

But if you hate something you would just abandon it wouldnt you? Ahhhhh thats the point

"According to Mac yes."

This is why it's so tough to communicate with partisan ideologues. Constant straw man silliness, intellectual dishonesty.

Oh sorry are we playing our usual parts? Let me get the script

*unfolds paper* Ahem...Excuse me Mac, is it possible to love something and want it to be better?

Mac line reads: "I'm not explaining myself to you, you are *add intellectual insult here* to understand

Anyway, if CC speaks for many on the Left, I guess it would be that you folks love what you wish America was. Like a nicer house.
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You can love the house and want it to be better at the same time cant you Mac?

*Mac line reads* I am not going to play this game with YOU CC. *Add location of where CC can go here or place his opinion here*

 

[PoliticalChic]

LIBERAL historian, Brown University.

Sustained

It would be simple enough for you to state a disagreement with Widmer, rather than this tap dance.....which proves my point.

His opinion is not the opinion of an entire political group. I thought I said that already?

I suggested that you offer your opinion,...

You could disagree with Widmer, and support your contention.


Or........

I know but giving your appitude to translate someones opinion into the opinions of a huge segment of the population I can see why you want more false ammo. But your foundation is bad and the argument you built on top is faulty.

And evidence of that is that you not once disagreed with my point that one person doesnt represent a group. You just said "yeah well, whats your opinion?"

So....you don't believe it represents Liberals??

Well, then......I'll have to level another salvo.

How about the same approach to the pledge of allegiance from the Liberal media?



And, one more tale in the same vein:

11. "The Extremely Crazy Offensive Ad with a 4-Year-Old Doing Something So Outrageous CBS Had to Ban It







A short commercial of a 4-year-old girl reciting “The Pledge of Allegiance” to the United ... has been banned by CBS Sports
. Fox News reported about the segment:

The national cable sports network rejected a 30-second television advertisement from Windermere Real Estate that shows company owner Dave Retter’s adorable granddaughter delivering the pledge with her hand over her heart.


CBS Sports said the ad was “too political” to air during the network’s upcoming broadcast of the Wrangler Champions Challenge rodeo.

Obviously, there is nothing political about reciting the pledge.... “We just thought it’s around Sept. 11, Patriot Day, and rodeo is as patriotic a sport as it comes,” Retter told the Herald.

Saying that “The Pledge of Allegiance” is too political for its network makes you wonder where its political loyalties lie."
The Extremely Crazy Offensive Ad with a 4-Year-Old Doing Something So Outrageous CBS Had to Ban It


So......why do Liberals hate anything that represents America???

 

[Siete]

Why do they hate this great nation?
Why do they strive, not just to "fundamentally transform" it, but to end it??


Seems the very center of Liberalism is to find every wound and apply salt......how often must we hear of the evils of slavery, with hardly a word about the cathartic Civil War, and the monumental efforts Americans have made to amend same?



American history.....to be proud of:

September 13th, 1814 British begin 25 hour bombardment of Fort McHenry, Baltimore, but fail to take fort. A giant 15-stripe flag stitched together by Mary Young Pickersgill waved over the fort. By 1818 the third version of the flag, with 13 stripes, was created. Frances Scott Key wrote Star Spangled Banner honoring the 15-stripe version.(See 3/3) The British Navy had used “mortar vessels,” the mortar placed on the forecastle of an anchored boat, capable of blasting a 196-pound explosive shell four thousand yards in a thirty-second, high-arcing flight. Thus “bombs bursting in air.”



Why would Liberals attack these symbols of America.....such as this from a Liberal historian at a major Ivy League university:



1 "Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner?

2. The Star-Spangled Banner, so often a prelude to our ceremonies for others, finds itself on center stage this weekend as Baltimore, the city of its birth, celebrates the national anthem’s bicentennial.

3. Two hundred years ago, a Maryland-born lawyer, Francis Scott Key, poured out his anxious feelings for the fate of his country. Having witnessed the shelling of Fort McHenry by British forces throughout the night of Sept. 13-14, 1814, Key was elated to see the American flag still flying the next morning.He wrote out four stanzas of a poem titled “Defence of Fort M’Henry,”....

4. ... 18th-century London, where the music was actually composed. Indeed, the invading army that shelled Baltimore that night has nearly as much claim to authorship as the composer, for the tune was likely brought to America by British soldiers at the time of the American Revolution. It has been testing our vocal chords and our eardrums ever since.

5. Indeed, from its murky origins, the song has become so ubiquitous that it’s difficult not to hear it... Its martial strains launch every sporting contest, adding a kind of athletic drama of its own, ....Each performance forces us to relive Key’s emotional trauma ... a kind of musical bombardment that endlessly perpetuates Key’s agony of waiting and watching.




6.... the third stanza is troubling. One line taunts the British for their failure, and specifically calls out “the hireling and slave” who joined the British forces.

7. A deeper study of Key only compounds the problem. .... his position on slavery is impossible to avoid. Key was not only a slave-owner, but he zealously defended the peculiar institution in his legal work, persecuting local journalists who questioned slavery, and even those who possessed anti-slavery writings in their homes.

a. His brother-in-law was Roger Taney, who became chief justice of the Supreme Court and authored the infamous Dred Scott decision, which argued that African-Americans could never be citizens of the United States. Indeed, much of what we know about how Key wrote out “The Star-Spangled Banner” comes from an account Taney published in 1857, the year of Dred Scott.




8. .... the “Star-Spangled Banner” gained currency as the Navy began to play it more officially in the 1890s, in the same decade that the Navy was spearheading the spread of American influence around the world. Its use accelerated in World War I, ...

9. .... is it time to rethink the Star-Spangled Banner?.... the story of Key’s nearness to slavery cannot easily be forgotten, especially in an era that demands more accountability, and offers to tools to find it. Critics over the years—I am hardly the first—have been brutal about the Star-Spangled Banner’s many shortcomings.

a. The New York Herald Tribune dismissed it as “words that nobody can remember [set] to a tune that nobody can sing.” In 1918, a woman named Kitty Cheatham denounced the words as “German propaganda” (because they undermined the Anglo-American alliance), and saw the music as a product of “darkness,” “degeneracy,” and “the carnal mind.” .... the columnist Michael Kinsley has ripped its “empty bravado” and “mindless nonsense about rockets and bombs.”

10. It would take a gigantic effort to remove the “Star-Spangled Banner” from its throne—a throne that becomes a little more entrenched this weekend. But to ask hard questions about entrenched power is an American tradition even older than our attempts to sing this enduringly difficult national song."
Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner - Ted Widmer - POLITICO Magazine



What's next.....the flag itself?

Liberals are more stable than the Republicans who obsess over them... another BOO HOO PC thread.

In honor of the unstable RW OP, BOO HOO !!!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Sustained

It would be simple enough for you to state a disagreement with Widmer, rather than this tap dance.....which proves my point.

His opinion is not the opinion of an entire political group. I thought I said that already?

I suggested that you offer your opinion,...

You could disagree with Widmer, and support your contention.


Or........

I know but giving your appitude to translate someones opinion into the opinions of a huge segment of the population I can see why you want more false ammo. But your foundation is bad and the argument you built on top is faulty.

And evidence of that is that you not once disagreed with my point that one person doesnt represent a group. You just said "yeah well, whats your opinion?"

So....you don't believe it represents Liberals??

I kinda said that like, 3 times already

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The thread premise fails as a straw man fallacy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why do they hate this great nation?
Why do they strive, not just to "fundamentally transform" it, but to end it??


Seems the very center of Liberalism is to find every wound and apply salt......how often must we hear of the evils of slavery, with hardly a word about the cathartic Civil War, and the monumental efforts Americans have made to amend same?



American history.....to be proud of:

September 13th, 1814 British begin 25 hour bombardment of Fort McHenry, Baltimore, but fail to take fort. A giant 15-stripe flag stitched together by Mary Young Pickersgill waved over the fort. By 1818 the third version of the flag, with 13 stripes, was created. Frances Scott Key wrote Star Spangled Banner honoring the 15-stripe version.(See 3/3) The British Navy had used “mortar vessels,” the mortar placed on the forecastle of an anchored boat, capable of blasting a 196-pound explosive shell four thousand yards in a thirty-second, high-arcing flight. Thus “bombs bursting in air.”



Why would Liberals attack these symbols of America.....such as this from a Liberal historian at a major Ivy League university:



1 "Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner?

2. The Star-Spangled Banner, so often a prelude to our ceremonies for others, finds itself on center stage this weekend as Baltimore, the city of its birth, celebrates the national anthem’s bicentennial.

3. Two hundred years ago, a Maryland-born lawyer, Francis Scott Key, poured out his anxious feelings for the fate of his country. Having witnessed the shelling of Fort McHenry by British forces throughout the night of Sept. 13-14, 1814, Key was elated to see the American flag still flying the next morning.He wrote out four stanzas of a poem titled “Defence of Fort M’Henry,”....

4. ... 18th-century London, where the music was actually composed. Indeed, the invading army that shelled Baltimore that night has nearly as much claim to authorship as the composer, for the tune was likely brought to America by British soldiers at the time of the American Revolution. It has been testing our vocal chords and our eardrums ever since.

5. Indeed, from its murky origins, the song has become so ubiquitous that it’s difficult not to hear it... Its martial strains launch every sporting contest, adding a kind of athletic drama of its own, ....Each performance forces us to relive Key’s emotional trauma ... a kind of musical bombardment that endlessly perpetuates Key’s agony of waiting and watching.




6.... the third stanza is troubling. One line taunts the British for their failure, and specifically calls out “the hireling and slave” who joined the British forces.

7. A deeper study of Key only compounds the problem. .... his position on slavery is impossible to avoid. Key was not only a slave-owner, but he zealously defended the peculiar institution in his legal work, persecuting local journalists who questioned slavery, and even those who possessed anti-slavery writings in their homes.

a. His brother-in-law was Roger Taney, who became chief justice of the Supreme Court and authored the infamous Dred Scott decision, which argued that African-Americans could never be citizens of the United States. Indeed, much of what we know about how Key wrote out “The Star-Spangled Banner” comes from an account Taney published in 1857, the year of Dred Scott.




8. .... the “Star-Spangled Banner” gained currency as the Navy began to play it more officially in the 1890s, in the same decade that the Navy was spearheading the spread of American influence around the world. Its use accelerated in World War I, ...

9. .... is it time to rethink the Star-Spangled Banner?.... the story of Key’s nearness to slavery cannot easily be forgotten, especially in an era that demands more accountability, and offers to tools to find it. Critics over the years—I am hardly the first—have been brutal about the Star-Spangled Banner’s many shortcomings.

a. The New York Herald Tribune dismissed it as “words that nobody can remember [set] to a tune that nobody can sing.” In 1918, a woman named Kitty Cheatham denounced the words as “German propaganda” (because they undermined the Anglo-American alliance), and saw the music as a product of “darkness,” “degeneracy,” and “the carnal mind.” .... the columnist Michael Kinsley has ripped its “empty bravado” and “mindless nonsense about rockets and bombs.”

10. It would take a gigantic effort to remove the “Star-Spangled Banner” from its throne—a throne that becomes a little more entrenched this weekend. But to ask hard questions about entrenched power is an American tradition even older than our attempts to sing this enduringly difficult national song."
Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner - Ted Widmer - POLITICO Magazine



What's next.....the flag itself?

Liberals are more stable than the Republicans who obsess over them... another BOO HOO PC thread.

In honor of the unstable RW OP, BOO HOO !!!

Time and again Liberals show their irritation with my unassailable OPs.....and they shows their inability to respond to the OP.

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The thread premise fails as a straw man fallacy.

Unlike you, the OP is quite specific.

 

[Ravi]

It is a pretty crappy song, overall. But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.

Why are republicans so shallow?

 

[PoliticalChic]

It is a pretty crappy song, overall. But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.

Why are republicans so shallow?

"But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.
Why are republicans so shallow?"

Clean off your specs.

It's the Liberal history professor who posted the opinion in Politico.

Liberals attack symbols of America....not Republicans (conservatives).



Would you like to correct your post?

 

[Ravi]

It is a pretty crappy song, overall. But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.

Why are republicans so shallow?

"But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.
Why are republicans so shallow?"

Clean off your specs.

It's the Liberal history professor who posted the opinion in Politico.

Liberals attack symbols of America....not Republicans (conservatives).



Would you like to correct your post?

You are the republican with her panties in a bunch over someone's opinion of a rather crappy song. That's shallow.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It is a pretty crappy song, overall. But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.

Why are republicans so shallow?

"But that fact shouldn't get your panties in a bunch.
Why are republicans so shallow?"

Clean off your specs.

It's the Liberal history professor who posted the opinion in Politico.

Liberals attack symbols of America....not Republicans (conservatives).



Would you like to correct your post?

You are the republican with her panties in a bunch over someone's opinion of a rather crappy song. That's shallow.

You are the Liberal doing her very best to take the spotlight off the Liberal Brown University history professor who is attacking the Star Spangled Banner,and, indirectly, America.
The pattern is repeated far too often.

You can run, but you can't hide.

 

[Ravi]

Hopefully tomorrow's fauxrage will work out better for you PC

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hopefully tomorrow's fauxrage will work out better for you PC

Tomorrow.....???

Why wait:


Wait....did I say the American flag would be next???


Well....wadda ya' know....


12. "Students, It’s Illegal To Wear An American Flag Shirt On Cinco De Mayo
Students in a California school district will not be allowed to wear American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo, due to concerns that such displays of patriotism would inflame racial tensions by offending Mexican students on their holiday.

The district’s policy concerned many free speech advocates, but was upheld by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

“They silenced a symbol of patriotism and freedom in America,”saidGeorgine Scott-Codiga, president of the Gillroy-Morgan Hill Patriots, in a statement to KCBS.

The Ninth Circuit, however, ruled in February that the school was legally permitted to abridge white students’ free speech rights in service of Latino students’ feelings."

Students It s Illegal To Wear An American Flag Shirt On Cinco De Mayo The Daily Caller


So, the LIBERAL government school found a soulmate at the LIBERAL Ninth Circuit.....

Star Spangled Banner....

....Pledge of Allegiance.....

....and the symbol that Americans have fought and died for....the flag itself.


Liberals: have you no shame???