What Is Wrong With Liberals??

[Jroc]

only to the simple minded, you qualify .

Liberals gave us:

Our country
Abolition of slavery
Womens rights
Civil rights
Environmental protections
Worker protections
Gay rights

What have conservatives given us again?

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal of his day
As was Liberal Thomas Jefferson

This guy is useless and not to bright

Rightwinger? Because he thinks that Lincoln was a lib???

Not very cricket to go after someone personally, because YOU think that they are wrong.

He doesn't think, that's his problem

 

[PoliticalChic]

......

^^^ Nothing to add once again except GARBAGE.

Thanks, Mr. "Three digit IQ!"

You make my day.....complain some more, this time with some juicy invectives...

POST RELEVANT SUBJECT MATTER!!!!!

Your memes are not a substitute for a substantive response, use your brain for once and not someone else's ideas!!!

Did I miss your "substantive response" to the OP?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Why do they hate this great nation?
Why do they strive, not just to "fundamentally transform" it, but to end it??

Objection: Leading the witness

Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner - Ted Widmer - POLITICO Magazine



What's next.....the flag itself?

Objection: Presenting one persons opinion as the opinion of an entire political group

LIBERAL historian, Brown University.

Sustained

It would be simple enough for you to state a disagreement with Widmer, rather than this tap dance.....which proves my point.

His opinion is not the opinion of an entire political group. I thought I said that already?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Jrock, do you honestly believe that ALL Liberals stand for subjugation of power to the federal government?

Conservatives stand for liberty, as long as it doesn't mean that gays can marry, Muslims can open new "mosques" or the Dixie Chicks speak out against the Iraq war while B-B-Bush is president.

what? Whats all the gibberish? anybody can speak out although there might be backlash for what they say. Thats called free speech as well. Liberty doesn't mean anything goes there is no liberty to murder and the states regulate marriage not the federal government

I disagree - profoundly.

That's not freedom of speech - It's called coercion. If you choose to boycott someone because of their political ideology, fine.

If you smear them wrongly in the process, you are guilty of the most egregious transgressions one can commit, politically - wrongful persecution.

You know, like inventing crap scandals by the metric ton in order to impeach Obama....

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Did I miss your "substantive response" to the OP?

You mean your troll thread?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why do they hate this great nation?
Why do they strive, not just to "fundamentally transform" it, but to end it??

Objection: Leading the witness

Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner - Ted Widmer - POLITICO Magazine



What's next.....the flag itself?

Objection: Presenting one persons opinion as the opinion of an entire political group

LIBERAL historian, Brown University.

Sustained

It would be simple enough for you to state a disagreement with Widmer, rather than this tap dance.....which proves my point.

His opinion is not the opinion of an entire political group. I thought I said that already?

I suggested that you offer your opinion,...

You could disagree with Widmer, and support your contention.


Or........

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did I miss your "substantive response" to the OP?

You mean your troll thread?

So.....afraid to offer any "substantive response" .....


Chicken.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

He doesn't think, that's his problem

????

OK, Einstein.

By the way, you aren't so perfect after all, with your enormous gaffe with regards to God not rolling the dice.....

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Did I miss your "substantive response" to the OP?

You mean your troll thread?

So.....afraid to offer any "substantive response" .....


Chicken.

To what? Your Opinion?

You hate Libs ... who'd-a-thunk.

 

[Jroc]

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Jrock, do you honestly believe that ALL Liberals stand for subjugation of power to the federal government?

Conservatives stand for liberty, as long as it doesn't mean that gays can marry, Muslims can open new "mosques" or the Dixie Chicks speak out against the Iraq war while B-B-Bush is president.

what? Whats all the gibberish? anybody can speak out although there might be backlash for what they say. Thats called free speech as well. Liberty doesn't mean anything goes there is no liberty to murder and the states regulate marriage not the federal government

I disagree - profoundly.

That's not freedom of speech - It's called coercion. If you choose to boycott someone because of their political ideology, fine.

If you smear them wrongly in the process, you are guilty of the most egregious transgressions one can commit, politically - wrongful prosecution.

You know, like inventing crap scandals by the metric ton in order to impeach Obama....

More Gibberish and liberal talking points Nobody's going to impeach Obama "invented "Scandals" everything is invented in minds of the blind Obama followers. No one could "invent" all the scandals this administration is involved in. And you can boycott whomever you want. We still have the liberty to do so

 

[LogikAndReazon]

The founders would spit upon todays liberals and their mindless agendas....

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Jrock, do you honestly believe that ALL Liberals stand for subjugation of power to the federal government?

Conservatives stand for liberty, as long as it doesn't mean that gays can marry, Muslims can open new "mosques" or the Dixie Chicks speak out against the Iraq war while B-B-Bush is president.

what? Whats all the gibberish? anybody can speak out although there might be backlash for what they say. Thats called free speech as well. Liberty doesn't mean anything goes there is no liberty to murder and the states regulate marriage not the federal government

I disagree - profoundly.

That's not freedom of speech - It's called coercion. If you choose to boycott someone because of their political ideology, fine.

If you smear them wrongly in the process, you are guilty of the most egregious transgressions one can commit, politically - wrongful prosecution.

You know, like inventing crap scandals by the metric ton in order to impeach Obama....

More Gibberish and liberal talking points Nobody's going to impeach Obama "invented "Scandals" everything is invented in minds of the blind Obama followers. No one could "invent" all the scandals this administration is involved in. And you can boycott whomever you want. We still have the liberty to do so

Ah ... so many crap scandals - one of them must be real!!!

Nice.

Who said I was an Obama follower?

Once again, your profound hatred of "libs" rears its ugly head.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

The founders would spit upon todays liberals and their mindless agendas....

Speaking for the founders? Did they really go around spitting on people? Sounds like a conservative thing.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberal is a liberal, is a liberal

Liberals look at the challenges of their era and find ways to improve them. Over time, the challenges change.....but liberals never do

only to the simple minded, you qualify .

Liberals gave us:

Our country
Abolition of slavery
Womens rights
Civil rights
Environmental protections
Worker protections
Gay rights

What have conservatives given us again?

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal of his day
As was Liberal Thomas Jefferson

This guy is useless and not to bright

This guy is useless and not to bright

Bright enough to know the difference between "too" and "to"

 

[ClosedCaption]

Objection: Leading the witness



Objection: Presenting one persons opinion as the opinion of an entire political group

LIBERAL historian, Brown University.

Sustained

It would be simple enough for you to state a disagreement with Widmer, rather than this tap dance.....which proves my point.

His opinion is not the opinion of an entire political group. I thought I said that already?

I suggested that you offer your opinion,...

You could disagree with Widmer, and support your contention.


Or........

I know but giving your appitude to translate someones opinion into the opinions of a huge segment of the population I can see why you want more false ammo. But your foundation is bad and the argument you built on top is faulty.

And evidence of that is that you not once disagreed with my point that one person doesnt represent a group. You just said "yeah well, whats your opinion?"

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

This guy is useless and not to bright

Bright enough to know the difference between "too" and "to"

I wasn't going to go there!



Debate the subject - unless you're too small intellectually and must, instead, go after the poster.

 

[Jroc]

only to the simple minded, you qualify .

Liberals gave us:

Our country
Abolition of slavery
Womens rights
Civil rights
Environmental protections
Worker protections
Gay rights

What have conservatives given us again?

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal of his day
As was Liberal Thomas Jefferson

This guy is useless and not to bright

Bright enough to know the difference between "too" and "to"

Typo you idiot... I'm multitasking some people do work.... You?

 

[Statistikhengst]

Why do they hate this great nation?
Why do they strive, not just to "fundamentally transform" it, but to end it??


Seems the very center of Liberalism is to find every wound and apply salt......how often must we hear of the evils of slavery, with hardly a word about the cathartic Civil War, and the monumental efforts Americans have made to amend same?



American history.....to be proud of:

September 13th, 1814 British begin 25 hour bombardment of Fort McHenry, Baltimore, but fail to take fort. A giant 15-stripe flag stitched together by Mary Young Pickersgill waved over the fort. By 1818 the third version of the flag, with 13 stripes, was created. Frances Scott Key wrote Star Spangled Banner honoring the 15-stripe version.(See 3/3) The British Navy had used “mortar vessels,” the mortar placed on the forecastle of an anchored boat, capable of blasting a 196-pound explosive shell four thousand yards in a thirty-second, high-arcing flight. Thus “bombs bursting in air.”



Why would Liberals attack these symbols of America.....such as this from a Liberal historian at a major Ivy League university:



1 "Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner?

2. The Star-Spangled Banner, so often a prelude to our ceremonies for others, finds itself on center stage this weekend as Baltimore, the city of its birth, celebrates the national anthem’s bicentennial.

3. Two hundred years ago, a Maryland-born lawyer, Francis Scott Key, poured out his anxious feelings for the fate of his country. Having witnessed the shelling of Fort McHenry by British forces throughout the night of Sept. 13-14, 1814, Key was elated to see the American flag still flying the next morning.He wrote out four stanzas of a poem titled “Defence of Fort M’Henry,”....

4. ... 18th-century London, where the music was actually composed. Indeed, the invading army that shelled Baltimore that night has nearly as much claim to authorship as the composer, for the tune was likely brought to America by British soldiers at the time of the American Revolution. It has been testing our vocal chords and our eardrums ever since.

5. Indeed, from its murky origins, the song has become so ubiquitous that it’s difficult not to hear it... Its martial strains launch every sporting contest, adding a kind of athletic drama of its own, ....Each performance forces us to relive Key’s emotional trauma ... a kind of musical bombardment that endlessly perpetuates Key’s agony of waiting and watching.




6.... the third stanza is troubling. One line taunts the British for their failure, and specifically calls out “the hireling and slave” who joined the British forces.

7. A deeper study of Key only compounds the problem. .... his position on slavery is impossible to avoid. Key was not only a slave-owner, but he zealously defended the peculiar institution in his legal work, persecuting local journalists who questioned slavery, and even those who possessed anti-slavery writings in their homes.

a. His brother-in-law was Roger Taney, who became chief justice of the Supreme Court and authored the infamous Dred Scott decision, which argued that African-Americans could never be citizens of the United States. Indeed, much of what we know about how Key wrote out “The Star-Spangled Banner” comes from an account Taney published in 1857, the year of Dred Scott.




8. .... the “Star-Spangled Banner” gained currency as the Navy began to play it more officially in the 1890s, in the same decade that the Navy was spearheading the spread of American influence around the world. Its use accelerated in World War I, ...

9. .... is it time to rethink the Star-Spangled Banner?.... the story of Key’s nearness to slavery cannot easily be forgotten, especially in an era that demands more accountability, and offers to tools to find it. Critics over the years—I am hardly the first—have been brutal about the Star-Spangled Banner’s many shortcomings.

a. The New York Herald Tribune dismissed it as “words that nobody can remember [set] to a tune that nobody can sing.” In 1918, a woman named Kitty Cheatham denounced the words as “German propaganda” (because they undermined the Anglo-American alliance), and saw the music as a product of “darkness,” “degeneracy,” and “the carnal mind.” .... the columnist Michael Kinsley has ripped its “empty bravado” and “mindless nonsense about rockets and bombs.”

10. It would take a gigantic effort to remove the “Star-Spangled Banner” from its throne—a throne that becomes a little more entrenched this weekend. But to ask hard questions about entrenched power is an American tradition even older than our attempts to sing this enduringly difficult national song."
Is It Time to Ditch the Star-Spangled Banner - Ted Widmer - POLITICO Magazine



What's next.....the flag itself?

I have no problem with the SSB at all, but Irving Berlin's "America the Beautiful" is far more beautiful musically and in terms of prose, imo.

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[Mad_Cabbie]

Liberals gave us:

Our country
Abolition of slavery
Womens rights
Civil rights
Environmental protections
Worker protections
Gay rights

What have conservatives given us again?

umm... Only in your warped mind that may be true. Conservatives stand for liberty. The liberty which Our first Republican president Abraham Lincoln stood for. the liberty spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. You leftist stand for subjugation to all power federal government

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal of his day
As was Liberal Thomas Jefferson

This guy is useless and not to bright

Bright enough to know the difference between "too" and "to"

Typo you idiot... I'm multitasking some people do work.... You?

You kind of asked for that one bud - you called him stupid and then proceeded to misspell a word.

Poetic justice!

;-)

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hey bitch, what does your dd214 say? Honorable? Or do you even have one? Mine says honorable. In this day and age you have zero excuse for not serving your nation.

Calling her a bitch is dishonorable. See what I'm saying? Grow up.