What Makes Poor People Poor? - Special Segment

[danielpalos]

minimum wage workers pay some income tax. stop gossiping and making up stories.

thats a lie,,or you are on ignorant fuck

I am with the latter

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

so I prove you a bold faced liar and you respond by admitting it

honesty is a new one for you

and its the bleeding heart democrats fault for using the poor as a political tool

they still pay income tax; a lot of people get a refund and earned income credit.

 

[Papageorgio]

youre not accounting for all the jobs lost if you raise the min wage,,,what they did in Seattle proved that for us

so what; in the long run equilibrium higher paid labor must pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

SO WHAT???

fewer people working means less taxs and more on welfare

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective. the Right Wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

I don’t speak for the right wing, however I don’t like your idea because it will hurt the working class and put the burden on the group that is asked to always carry the burden, the working middle class.

no, it won't. the right wing doesn't care about economics and prefer to make up stories.

How does raising the taxes on the middle class help the middle class? How does taxing the rich more to pay for services help the middle class when we all know that the cost of the raised taxes get passed down to the middle class?

 

[rightwinger]

no, because our economy must grow due to a positive multiplier effect. The Fed has more "tools" to work with, with some inflationary tendency.

TARP proves you wrong.

TARP worked

worked to do what??

increase the debt and steal from hard working people maybe

Banks were on the verge of collapse. A collapse that would have created a Depression

artificially propping them up only kicks the can down the road for our children to deal with,,,what kind of a parent does that make???

we have pissed on our children far to much already,,sorry,,, the democrats and republicans have pissed on our children too much 22 trillion

I say let them fail and learn for the next time

and thats not even talking about how it violates the constitution

Those banks are still in business and a Depression was averted
TARP did not create $22 trillion in debt and most was repaid

 

[Papageorgio]

That was a fact, also with majority in both the House and Senate the cuts could be voted it out the first day. They didn’t want to do it because repealing the tax on the rich would have had a negative effect on the economy. You making excuses is very funny, thanks for the laughs.

why not increase tax revenue by increasing the minimum wage? the law of large numbers can work for us at the new equilibrium.

So why would raising taxes on the rich have a negative effect on the economy, at least that is what Obama thought.

we get the biggest bang for our buck with the Poor, who tend to spend most of their income paying taxes and creating demand.

So the left wing hates the poor?

only the Poor are not really worth it, to the right wing.

So the left hates the poor which is why the left kept the tax cuts for the rich. The left hates the poor and only wants them at election time.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats a lie,,or you are on ignorant fuck

I am with the latter

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

so I prove you a bold faced liar and you respond by admitting it

honesty is a new one for you

and its the bleeding heart democrats fault for using the poor as a political tool

they still pay income tax; a lot of people get a refund and earned income credit.

if they get back far more then they put in means they dont pay income tax

you are back to being an ignorant fool


the poor need to pay their fair share or shut up

 

[Likkmee]

Link didn't work for me.

The question is not: What makes poor people poor? It is: Is there any way to avoid being poor?

To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, (1) finish high school, (2) get a job (any job), and (3) don't have kids before you get married. If you do those three things, there is a very small chance you will be poor initially and remain poor.

Many factors can make "middle class" people poor:

Death of a spouse,
Medical bills,
Other personal catastrophe,
Having kids and no husband,
Not having a job,
Substance abuse.

Lord knows, starting life as an "emancipated single adult" today can put you behind the 8-ball. I pity people who don't have any family to help them get started. (Although my family gave me squat).

Glad I'm past that stage of my life.

Poor is a state of mind. So is rich. Money really has nothing to do with it. Its your state of mind that determines how you use money.

thats one way to look at it,,,but the people in 3rd world dictatorships dont really have the money to make bad decisions

and no one in the USA is poor by world standards


its a far bigger issue than that and if you'd watch the video you would be able to stay on topic which is the video and whats said in it

Tell that to all the homeless fuckers loitering all over your country.
Go to Chile and Argentina and see how many people live on the streets and under bridges

 

[Papageorgio]

noooo, the poor dont pay income tax you ignorant twit,,,and sales tax is minimal and help them be a part of their community

they need to pay their fair share or just accept their place is their fault

minimum wage workers pay some income tax. stop gossiping and making up stories.

thats a lie,,or you are on ignorant fuck

I am with the latter

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

So do the rich.

 

[progressive hunter]

TARP proves you wrong.

TARP worked

worked to do what??

increase the debt and steal from hard working people maybe

Banks were on the verge of collapse. A collapse that would have created a Depression

artificially propping them up only kicks the can down the road for our children to deal with,,,what kind of a parent does that make???

we have pissed on our children far to much already,,sorry,,, the democrats and republicans have pissed on our children too much 22 trillion

I say let them fail and learn for the next time

and thats not even talking about how it violates the constitution

Those banks are still in business and a Depression was averted
TARP did not create $22 trillion in debt and most was repaid

the 22 trillion is the total debt dem and repubes have dumped on our children
they have brought child abuse to new levels of evil

and you have no way of proving tarp did anything but pay off political bribes

 

[progressive hunter]

Link didn't work for me.

The question is not: What makes poor people poor? It is: Is there any way to avoid being poor?

To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, (1) finish high school, (2) get a job (any job), and (3) don't have kids before you get married. If you do those three things, there is a very small chance you will be poor initially and remain poor.

Many factors can make "middle class" people poor:

Death of a spouse,
Medical bills,
Other personal catastrophe,
Having kids and no husband,
Not having a job,
Substance abuse.

Lord knows, starting life as an "emancipated single adult" today can put you behind the 8-ball. I pity people who don't have any family to help them get started. (Although my family gave me squat).

Glad I'm past that stage of my life.

Poor is a state of mind. So is rich. Money really has nothing to do with it. Its your state of mind that determines how you use money.

thats one way to look at it,,,but the people in 3rd world dictatorships dont really have the money to make bad decisions

and no one in the USA is poor by world standards


its a far bigger issue than that and if you'd watch the video you would be able to stay on topic which is the video and whats said in it

Tell that to all the homeless fuckers loitering all over your country.
Go to Chile and Argentina and see how many people live on the streets and under bridges

they need to get off their ass and do something

 

[Papageorgio]

thats a lie,,or you are on ignorant fuck

I am with the latter

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

so I prove you a bold faced liar and you respond by admitting it

honesty is a new one for you

and its the bleeding heart democrats fault for using the poor as a political tool

they still pay income tax; a lot of people get a refund and earned income credit.

Which is several times more than what they ever pay in taxes, thus they pay no taxes, it is all refunded to them, that and more.

 

[danielpalos]

so what; in the long run equilibrium higher paid labor must pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

SO WHAT???

fewer people working means less taxs and more on welfare

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective. the Right Wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

I don’t speak for the right wing, however I don’t like your idea because it will hurt the working class and put the burden on the group that is asked to always carry the burden, the working middle class.

no, it won't. the right wing doesn't care about economics and prefer to make up stories.

How does raising the taxes on the middle class help the middle class? How does taxing the rich more to pay for services help the middle class when we all know that the cost of the raised taxes get passed down to the middle class?

not sure what you mean. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment should be public policy and a promotion of the general welfare.

everyone benefits with more liquidity in our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

why not increase tax revenue by increasing the minimum wage? the law of large numbers can work for us at the new equilibrium.

So why would raising taxes on the rich have a negative effect on the economy, at least that is what Obama thought.

we get the biggest bang for our buck with the Poor, who tend to spend most of their income paying taxes and creating demand.

So the left wing hates the poor?

only the Poor are not really worth it, to the right wing.

So the left hates the poor which is why the left kept the tax cuts for the rich. The left hates the poor and only wants them at election time.

health care reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is about helping the poor.

the right wing simply makes up any stories they want.

 

[progressive hunter]

SO WHAT???

fewer people working means less taxs and more on welfare

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective. the Right Wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

I don’t speak for the right wing, however I don’t like your idea because it will hurt the working class and put the burden on the group that is asked to always carry the burden, the working middle class.

no, it won't. the right wing doesn't care about economics and prefer to make up stories.

How does raising the taxes on the middle class help the middle class? How does taxing the rich more to pay for services help the middle class when we all know that the cost of the raised taxes get passed down to the middle class?

not sure what you mean. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment should be public policy and a promotion of the general welfare.

everyone benefits with more liquidity in our economy.

it is promoting it,,,what you want is for it to be forced


the poor need to pair their fair share or shut up

 

[Papageorgio]

SO WHAT???

fewer people working means less taxs and more on welfare

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective. the Right Wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

I don’t speak for the right wing, however I don’t like your idea because it will hurt the working class and put the burden on the group that is asked to always carry the burden, the working middle class.

no, it won't. the right wing doesn't care about economics and prefer to make up stories.

How does raising the taxes on the middle class help the middle class? How does taxing the rich more to pay for services help the middle class when we all know that the cost of the raised taxes get passed down to the middle class?

not sure what you mean. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment should be public policy and a promotion of the general welfare.

everyone benefits with more liquidity in our economy.

So if everyone benefits from the liquidity in our economy, the tax cuts for the rich helps the economy and the poor, at least that is your claim? Still no cure?

 

[danielpalos]

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

so I prove you a bold faced liar and you respond by admitting it

honesty is a new one for you

and its the bleeding heart democrats fault for using the poor as a political tool

they still pay income tax; a lot of people get a refund and earned income credit.

if they get back far more then they put in means they dont pay income tax

you are back to being an ignorant fool


the poor need to pay their fair share or shut up

the poor pay more tax as a percentage of their income.

The Poor Pay More in Taxes | The Economic Populist

 

[progressive hunter]

So why would raising taxes on the rich have a negative effect on the economy, at least that is what Obama thought.

we get the biggest bang for our buck with the Poor, who tend to spend most of their income paying taxes and creating demand.

So the left wing hates the poor?

only the Poor are not really worth it, to the right wing.

So the left hates the poor which is why the left kept the tax cuts for the rich. The left hates the poor and only wants them at election time.

health care reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is about helping the poor.

the right wing simply makes up any stories they want.

socialist healthcare is slavery and a higher min wage means more poor people without jobs,,,this has been proven

 

[danielpalos]

only the right wing is that ignorant, but blame everyone else.

any tax website claims the same thing. full time minimum wage work pays a few hundred dollars in income tax.

which they get back at the end of the yr,,not only do they get that back but they get a tax credit ,,,,,if they have bastard children they get a tax credit for them as well or any children

so like I said you are either and a bold faced liar or ignorant fool,,,there are no other options

who's fault is that? The Poor only pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

so I prove you a bold faced liar and you respond by admitting it

honesty is a new one for you

and its the bleeding heart democrats fault for using the poor as a political tool

they still pay income tax; a lot of people get a refund and earned income credit.

Which is several times more than what they ever pay in taxes, thus they pay no taxes, it is all refunded to them, that and more.

just stories?

The Poor Pay More in Taxes | The Economic Populist

 

[Papageorgio]

So why would raising taxes on the rich have a negative effect on the economy, at least that is what Obama thought.

we get the biggest bang for our buck with the Poor, who tend to spend most of their income paying taxes and creating demand.

So the left wing hates the poor?

only the Poor are not really worth it, to the right wing.

So the left hates the poor which is why the left kept the tax cuts for the rich. The left hates the poor and only wants them at election time.

health care reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is about helping the poor.

the right wing simply makes up any stories they want.

The only reform for health care was to force the middle class to pay for programs they could not afford with premiums and deductibles they could no afford thus did not use. You punish the middle class to make them poor.

 

[danielpalos]

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective. the Right Wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

I don’t speak for the right wing, however I don’t like your idea because it will hurt the working class and put the burden on the group that is asked to always carry the burden, the working middle class.

no, it won't. the right wing doesn't care about economics and prefer to make up stories.

How does raising the taxes on the middle class help the middle class? How does taxing the rich more to pay for services help the middle class when we all know that the cost of the raised taxes get passed down to the middle class?

not sure what you mean. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment should be public policy and a promotion of the general welfare.

everyone benefits with more liquidity in our economy.

So if everyone benefits from the liquidity in our economy, the tax cuts for the rich helps the economy and the poor, at least that is your claim? Still no cure?

tax cuts for the rich does nothing for the poor.

 

[danielpalos]

we get the biggest bang for our buck with the Poor, who tend to spend most of their income paying taxes and creating demand.

So the left wing hates the poor?

only the Poor are not really worth it, to the right wing.

So the left hates the poor which is why the left kept the tax cuts for the rich. The left hates the poor and only wants them at election time.

health care reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is about helping the poor.

the right wing simply makes up any stories they want.

socialist healthcare is slavery and a higher min wage means more poor people without jobs,,,this has been proven

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment automatically stabilizes that.