What Should A Christian Do When He/She Knows His/Her Church Is Teaching False Doctrine

[Taz]

You all are wasting time, emotion, energy, and probably money.

Just love God with all of your being, and love and serve your neighbor.

You don't think you should tithe or give to your local church?

That would be part of loving your neighbor. Careful with "should", though.

so you don't really think the 10% tithe is a requirement of God?
I'm not challenging, just questioning, this is a topic heavily debated, so....

God doesn't need money, or shouldn't anyways.

 

[Bonzi]

I Corinthians 2:14
“The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.”

See? All you have is a book to reach your god. Nothing else.

Actually, the best way to reach/talk with God is in prayer.....
That's where you really build your relationship with Him.
Scripture give you your armor and defense for God.

A prayer that you got from a book, or taught to you by a Head Book Guy. And you need armour for your god? Let me guess, that's in the book.

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

 

[Bonzi]

You all are wasting time, emotion, energy, and probably money.

Just love God with all of your being, and love and serve your neighbor.

You don't think you should tithe or give to your local church?

That would be part of loving your neighbor. Careful with "should", though.

so you don't really think the 10% tithe is a requirement of God?
I'm not challenging, just questioning, this is a topic heavily debated, so....

God doesn't need money, or shouldn't anyways.

God Himself does not need money, but, the local church does to operate, so it can do outreach, have a food bank, and evangelize to the local community, give to missions. The Apostles relied upon donations from their fellow Christians as well....

 

[Taz]

See? All you have is a book to reach your god. Nothing else.

Actually, the best way to reach/talk with God is in prayer.....
That's where you really build your relationship with Him.
Scripture give you your armor and defense for God.

A prayer that you got from a book, or taught to you by a Head Book Guy. And you need armour for your god? Let me guess, that's in the book.

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

 

[Taz]

You all are wasting time, emotion, energy, and probably money.

Just love God with all of your being, and love and serve your neighbor.

You don't think you should tithe or give to your local church?

That would be part of loving your neighbor. Careful with "should", though.

so you don't really think the 10% tithe is a requirement of God?
I'm not challenging, just questioning, this is a topic heavily debated, so....

God doesn't need money, or shouldn't anyways.

God Himself does not need money, but, the local church does to operate, so it can do outreach, have a food bank, and evangelize to the local community, give to missions. The Apostles relied upon donations from their fellow Christians as well....

Donating food to a church's food bank is one thing (good), but being forced to give 10% of your dough or they boot you out? Um... no. (a scam)

 

[Bonzi]

Actually, the best way to reach/talk with God is in prayer.....
That's where you really build your relationship with Him.
Scripture give you your armor and defense for God.

A prayer that you got from a book, or taught to you by a Head Book Guy. And you need armour for your god? Let me guess, that's in the book.

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

 

[Bonzi]

You don't think you should tithe or give to your local church?

That would be part of loving your neighbor. Careful with "should", though.

so you don't really think the 10% tithe is a requirement of God?
I'm not challenging, just questioning, this is a topic heavily debated, so....

God doesn't need money, or shouldn't anyways.

God Himself does not need money, but, the local church does to operate, so it can do outreach, have a food bank, and evangelize to the local community, give to missions. The Apostles relied upon donations from their fellow Christians as well....

Donating food to a church's food bank is one thing (good), but being forced to give 10% of your dough or they boot you out? Um... no. (a scam)

Some churches are scams, there is no doubt. Some are not, an only encourage you to give what you can.

 

[Taz]

A prayer that you got from a book, or taught to you by a Head Book Guy. And you need armour for your god? Let me guess, that's in the book.

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

So you're a "poofer", someone who believes that god poofed the animals around like a magician. Just like PostModernPoop, only it took him months of beating around the bush before he'd admit it openly.

 

[Bonzi]

Actually, the best way to reach/talk with God is in prayer.....
That's where you really build your relationship with Him.
Scripture give you your armor and defense for God.

A prayer that you got from a book, or taught to you by a Head Book Guy. And you need armour for your god? Let me guess, that's in the book.

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

If people get nasty with you, it might because you mock and sound a bit antagonistic in your responses (see above) - I have no idea where the person that wrote this article got their information so....

 

[the_human_being]

Certainly. The pre-tribulation rapture of the church, the doctrine of when a person dies a sinner he goes to a place of punishing while a saved person goes off to heaven to bliss, the belief that "to be absent from the body is to be with Christ, the doctrine that when Christ died he and the thief ran off to a place in the center of the earth called Paradise, the doctrine that Christ went somewhere and freed a bunch of souls in captivity there and led them up to heaven. That should do it for you.

William Barclay, a Church of Scotland minister born at the beginning of the last century, wrote a set of books of biblical scholarship for the average reader. His scholarly volumes on the Book of Revelation are likely to be an eye opener for those who tend to get their doctrine of Revelation from ideas that were developed during the fifteen hundreds.

As for the eternal fate of departed souls: I tend to go mostly with Christ's remark that God is God of the living, not the dead; that those who choose a life close to God will be welcome in that kingdom; while those who choose to live apart from God and His way of being loving servants towards all will be able to dwell apart from God.

Jews and early Christians believed that souls may undergo purification (or purging of sin) after death. Jewish belief holds that such purification takes no longer than a year; Early Christian/Catholic belief assigns no time. One of Peter's letters possibly references Jesus preaching to these captives.

Some doctrines teach that upon death people enter soul sleep, and remain there until the end of the world when everyone rises together. My own belief/experience is that upon death people do not fall asleep, but enter into eternal life. However, I don't think people holding to the belief of soul sleep should be dismissed. There are passages in scripture that may suggest such a thing.

Gods word clearly teaches-- on the day of ones death, all thought stops. The resurrection is foretold for the last day in revelation, this is post Harmageddon at judgement.

If thought stops at death, how did Christ preach to the dead between his death and resurrection and meet the thief in paradise that day?

He didn't. Go back and see what the discussion was actually about. Find the subject being discussed. If Christ went anywhere at all except to his tomb where he was dead as a doornail, then you and I are both dead in our sins.

And yet the scriptures are clear that He met the third in paradise the day He died. And that He preached the gospel to the spirits who were killed during the flood.

There is a space between death and resurrection where the spirits of the dead await the time their bodies will reunite with their spirits. And in this place we will grow, learn, and prepare for the day of judgment

Continue to believe your fairy tales.

 

[Bonzi]

I hav

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

So you're a "poofer", someone who believes that god poofed the animals around. Just like PostModernPoop, only it took him months of beating around the bush before he'd admit it openly.

Think about it.. something had to originate at sometime... no?

 

[Taz]

I hav

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

So you're a "poofer", someone who believes that god poofed the animals around. Just like PostModernPoop, only it took him months of beating around the bush before he'd admit it openly.

Think about it.. something had to originate at sometime... no?

What does that mean? You talking about the Big Bang?

 

[Bonzi]

Most of my prayers are conversations with God.
I understand why you say what you do, honestly, but if it's all bunk to you, it shouldn't bother you -
Or at a minimum, you are just mean spirited trying to trash what someone else holds dear to them.....

Actually, when I first came here, I was interested in what believers had to say about why they believe what they do, and if they had any proof of anything, or just believed because it sounded cool to them, or they get to join the gang... But except from you, everyone else just hurls insults at me because I keep asking them tough questions. Like: how did Noah get polar bears from the arctic and back again after the flood? This question in particular is EXTREMELY difficult for believers to answer.

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

So you're a "poofer", someone who believes that god poofed the animals around like a magician. Just like PostModernPoop, only it took him months of beating around the bush before he'd admit it openly.

Or, there is an explanation we don't know about or have not yet figured out... ? Not knowing, I really can't say...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Humble yourself and Join the true Church

All religions/churches say they are The True Church.

Humble yourself and Join the true Church

The true church with ancient submarines, magic underwear, and golden plates no ones ever seen?

Repeating the same nonsense isn't going to make it true no matter how many times you want to say it.

Then stop doing it.

You are not qualified to preach to anyone what to believe.

 

[Bonzi]

I hav

I didn't read this in it's entirety, but if you are genuinely interested, you might find it thought provoking if nothing else...
How Did Animals Spread All Over from Where the Ark Landed?

The douche who wrote this thinks that the animals floated out to the other continents on log rafts. Thanks for the laugh!

I missed that part as I was skimming over it.
As for what I believe... well, if God can create a universe out of nothing, I'm sure it would not be hard for him to get the animals to where they needed to go....

So you're a "poofer", someone who believes that god poofed the animals around. Just like PostModernPoop, only it took him months of beating around the bush before he'd admit it openly.

Think about it.. something had to originate at sometime... no?

What does that mean? You talking about the Big Bang?

Well you were talking about just "poofing" - and actually the Bible DOES say God spoke things into existence. God is perfect and all powerful, so, if you believe that, anything is possible. Doesn't mean however you turn your brain off -

 

[the_human_being]

Ok. You are a Christian. You have studied the Bible yourself to show yourself approved. Now you have discovered that the church you attend is preaching one or more false doctrines. You know if you bring the matter up to the pastor you will probably be ridiculed and put down or considered a divider and troublemaker. What are you to do?

Do you continue to attend and tithe your money and support the continued spreading and teaching of this or these false doctrines?

Do you quit the church altogether?

What if there are no churches within your commute that do not embrace this/these false doctrines? Do you simply stop attending church altogether and watch a television broadcast from a pastor who does hold your beliefs?

False Doctrine.....LMAO!

All the bible is anyway is a major load of bullshit so what part can anyone select that is not false?

Let's take a look:


A ghost floating on a cloud meeting his audience to escort them through pearly gates to an exclusive community.

The 2/3 who are sinners burning eternally in a lake of fire and brimstone.

A flood covers the earth to a depth of five miles and evaporates within a few weeks.

Big fish puking up live men.

Seas separating for the good guys and drowning the bad guys chasing them.

Compound walls falling at the sound of a trumpet.

A human being turned into a pillar of salt in her tracks.

Men living through a 1200 degree furnace.

The earth standing still.

Ten commandments presented to one man, by god, in the form of a burning bush.

A man walking on water.

A man/god on earth feeding five thousand men plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers.

Water turned into fine wine.

Lepers healed by touching them.

Selectively raising dead men.

Virgin birth.

Resurrection.

SURELY YOU JEST!!

Actually, were you to read and comprehend the OP, you might determine it was addressed to Christians.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You all are wasting time, emotion, energy, and probably money.

Just love God with all of your being, and love and serve your neighbor.

Another holier than thou "christian" who says he's qualified to preach what to believe.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Ok. You are a Christian. You have studied the Bible yourself to show yourself approved. Now you have discovered that the church you attend is preaching one or more false doctrines. You know if you bring the matter up to the pastor you will probably be ridiculed and put down or considered a divider and troublemaker. What are you to do?

Do you continue to attend and tithe your money and support the continued spreading and teaching of this or these false doctrines?

Do you quit the church altogether?

What if there are no churches within your commute that do not embrace this/these false doctrines? Do you simply stop attending church altogether and watch a television broadcast from a pastor who does hold your beliefs?

False Doctrine.....LMAO!

All the bible is anyway is a major load of bullshit so what part can anyone select that is not false?

Let's take a look:


A ghost floating on a cloud meeting his audience to escort them through pearly gates to an exclusive community.

The 2/3 who are sinners burning eternally in a lake of fire and brimstone.

A flood covers the earth to a depth of five miles and evaporates within a few weeks.

Big fish puking up live men.

Seas separating for the good guys and drowning the bad guys chasing them.

Compound walls falling at the sound of a trumpet.

A human being turned into a pillar of salt in her tracks.

Men living through a 1200 degree furnace.

The earth standing still.

Ten commandments presented to one man, by god, in the form of a burning bush.

A man walking on water.

A man/god on earth feeding five thousand men plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers.

Water turned into fine wine.

Lepers healed by touching them.

Selectively raising dead men.

Virgin birth.

Resurrection.

SURELY YOU JEST!!

Actually, were you to read and comprehend the OP, you might determine it was addressed to Christians.

His point is valid.

How can one know what is "false" and what is not?

The very definition of "faith" is to ignore facts in favor of blind obedience to "doctrine".

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bless you the_human_being and luddly in all your days and all your ways.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bonzi, if one belongs to a sanctified community, the membership will work together to work out the financial arrangements. Since Christ fulfilled the law then, the tithe of the OT is not a commandment today.