What Should Children Be Told About Marriage Equality?

[elektra]

and my first question is where is the link to the video the article discusses. the article states an eight year old boy exclaims that he never saw two husbands before, so my question is why do gay men go out of their way to, "come out" to eight year old boys?

Has this been asked, where is the video and what is right about stranger introducing themselves to eight year old children as men who gratify one another sexually?

I know and hear your howls, but if you tell a child you are a homosexual that child will ask what homosexuality is, that child will be curious and seek answers.

These men had no right to tell any child they are Homosexuals.

But there you have it, the Gay Activists have deemed it important that children be taught as soon as possible that they can be homosexuals.

I guess homosexuals require acceptance by children. So many thoughts on equality.

Yet, can two homosexual men do the same thing as a man and a woman, no. Not at all, they are not equal, two men are very different than a man and a woman.

So man/woman is not the same as man/man, its different, its not equal, they do not do equal things.

Equality, equality would be two homosexual men walking on a sidewalk not telling an 8 year old about homosexuality.

Equality would be that both gay and straight couples are seen based on the relationship and not the sex.

When I was married people viewed it as us being together because we loved each other. We could have been having the wildest, kinkiest sex ever, but that would not be the basis for how people saw us. A gay couple can have been in a monogamous relationship for decades, and the default judgement is about their sex life. Truly sad.

You are speaking of one aspect, just because I speak of one aspect, does not mean I have not spoke of or thought of others.

What we are speaking of today is a Government that will write thousands of laws, simply based on "marriage equality". Thousands of new laws which is specific to Homosexaulity.

I believe that its censorship to prevent free speech, I see it as censorship when I am not allowed to discuss anything but what you desire to be spoke of.

Here in the link provided, people have made a video which we can not see, a video where two adult males tell a child (that is a male), they are a married homosexual couple. In discussing this, one side of the argument (mine) is being silenced.

I think its pretty sad when one must be careful what one states and that free speech is not allowed when we are discussing a newly created society, a society never ever tried before, a society defined by government laws and regulations.

95% of the argument will not be discussed.

We can only speak of, "LOVE" when we discuss what is thousands of laws and regulations concerning homosexuality.

With all the problems, flaws, and shortcomings of humans, homosexual's are immune to them all, they only, "LOVE", and this is all we can discuss.

Guard my speech I will, as if I am in Germany or Russia, back in 1930's, before the millions where murdered and killed.

Yes, I will only speak of Homosexual Love, I will not question Homosexual Adoption or the teaching of Homosexual Values to 8 year old boys, yet this is what the Homosexuals have demanded and won.

Like Democrat Larry Brinkin who is an actual man that married a man over 20 years younger, a "twink" (man who looks like boy). Democrat Homosexual Larry Brinkin lobbied and successfully changed adoption laws in California which allowed himself to adopt a 5 year old boy. Funny how this part of the debate is missing, an Advocate, a Homosexaul, marries a twink, adopts a boy, and then get thrown in jail for having homosexual pictures of homosexual men having sex with 4 year old boys.

But it is me who has the problem for recognizing the debate is not simply over a definition.

So many details to discuss, sex is a major part of this discussion, only fools would ignore this fact.

Gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin sentenced on child pornography charges | Crime & Courts | San Francisco | San Francisco Examiner

Gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin sentenced on child pornography charges
By Rob Nagle @SFEX_RobNagle

Gay rights advocate pleads guilty to possession of child pornography

The gay rights advocate and former member of the San Francisco Human Right Commission who pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography was sentenced Wednesday and will be required to register as a sex offender for life, according to the District Attorney's Office.

Larry Brinkin, 67, agreed to a plea deal in January with prosecutors, who dropped a second charge of distributing child pornography.

 

[Ibentoken]

Children should be taught the truth. Marriage is a man and woman. Queers are mentally ill. That's what I taught my kids and that's what they teach their kids.

 

[Noomi]

Children should be taught the truth. Marriage is a man and woman. Queers are mentally ill. That's what I taught my kids and that's what they teach their kids.

You should also tell them that most marriages will end in divorce.

 

[Politico]

And also why yours hasn't.

 

[Iceweasel]

Children should be taught the truth. Marriage is a man and woman. Queers are mentally ill. That's what I taught my kids and that's what they teach their kids.

You should also tell them that most marriages will end in divorce.

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.

U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News
A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

 

[WinterBorn]

Children should be taught the truth. Marriage is a man and woman. Queers are mentally ill. That's what I taught my kids and that's what they teach their kids.

You should also tell them that most marriages will end in divorce.

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.

U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News
A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

So the divorce rate is the lowest it has been in over a century?

I guess that whole "moral decay" thing is helping people stay married?

 

[Iceweasel]

You should also tell them that most marriages will end in divorce.

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.

U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News
A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

So the divorce rate is the lowest it has been in over a century?

I guess that whole "moral decay" thing is helping people stay married?

Depends on the "marriage".

 

[koshergrl]

You should also tell them that most marriages will end in divorce.

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.

U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News
A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

So the divorce rate is the lowest it has been in over a century?

I guess that whole "moral decay" thing is helping people stay married?

You're a lying sack.

"Divorces were at a 40-year low in 2009, according to Jessamyn Schaller, an economics professor at the University of Arizona in Tucson, citing data from the federal government’s National Center for Health Statistics. The divorce rate more than doubled between 1940 and 1981 before falling a third by 2009, according to figures from NCHS, based in Hyattsville, Maryland."

Worsening U.S. Divorce Rate Points to Improving Economy - Bloomberg

US Divorce Rate Over the Past 100 Years | divorcescience

 

[WinterBorn]

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.

U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News
A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

So the divorce rate is the lowest it has been in over a century?

I guess that whole "moral decay" thing is helping people stay married?

You're a lying sack.

"Divorces were at a 40-year low in 2009, according to Jessamyn Schaller, an economics professor at the University of Arizona in Tucson, citing data from the federal government’s National Center for Health Statistics. The divorce rate more than doubled between 1940 and 1981 before falling a third by 2009, according to figures from NCHS, based in Hyattsville, Maryland."

Worsening U.S. Divorce Rate Points to Improving Economy - Bloomberg

US Divorce Rate Over the Past 100 Years | divorcescience

Sorry dear, but if there was a lie told it was not by me. I simply commented on Ice Weasel's post. And his posted claimed it was the lowest divorce rate in a century.

I know you were hoping for a "gotcha".

 

[Seawytch]

Libs love to lie, it's what they do.



U.S. Marriage Rate Hits New Low | Psych Central News

A new report from the National Center for Family and Marriage Research (NCFMR) at Bowling Green State University finds that the U.S. marriage rate is 31.1, the lowest it’s been in over a century.

So the divorce rate is the lowest it has been in over a century?



I guess that whole "moral decay" thing is helping people stay married?

You're a lying sack.



"Divorces were at a 40-year low in 2009, according to Jessamyn Schaller, an economics professor at the University of Arizona in Tucson, citing data from the federal government’s National Center for Health Statistics. The divorce rate more than doubled between 1940 and 1981 before falling a third by 2009, according to figures from NCHS, based in Hyattsville, Maryland."



Worsening U.S. Divorce Rate Points to Improving Economy - Bloomberg

US Divorce Rate Over the Past 100 Years | divorcescience

So heterosexuals aren't doing such a good job at this "marriage" thing...are they afraid gays will do it better?

 

[Katzndogz]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

 

[WinterBorn]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

 

[Katzndogz]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

I'm suggesting that way back in the 60s and 70s, there was a conscious effort to devalue marriage. People were encouraged to find themselves instead. We got no fault divorce. We eliminated disapproval and replaced it with societal approval of men and women who abandoned their families and children to pursue self fulfillment. Divorce was the cure for boredom. Marriage was sexually confining. If you don't want to get a divorce, at least have an affair.

Had we not stopped supporting marriage and instead supported the destruction of those marriages we would not be discussing same sex marriage today. It would never even be mentioned. First marriage itself had to be weakened. Then it could be replaced.

 

[GreenBean]

If a family has a gay family member you tell that gay child that you love them very much. That will never change. You just won't accept gay behavior as normal because it isn't.

It is very painful but parents are often faced with children who have compulsions. I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer ' s mother loved him in spite of what he did. Parents show up at jails to bail their children out of jail. They still love those children but won't accept the actions as normal. Not even if that act comes from a compulsion they cannot control.

Gay behavior is normal to a certain percentage of individuals. That makes it normal. If we are to accept what you say as being true, then we could just as easily say that being left handed is abnormal, wrong, and dangerous. Funny thing about that; the Catholic Church for centuries believed that being left handed meant a person was the servant of the Lucifer himself. They would forcibly make left handed people use their right hand. In Catholic schools, as late as the 70's, nuns would use rulers on the hands of anyone using their left hand.

Just because a behavior does not conform to your idea of normal does not make it abnormal.

Gay behavior is normal to a certain percentage of individuals. That makes it normal.

Mass murder at times has been normal to a certain percntage of individuals - That makes it Okay ?

If we are to accept what you say as being true, then we could just as easily say that being left handed is abnormal, wrong, and dangerous. Funny thing about that; the Catholic Church for centuries believed that being left handed meant a person was the servant of the Lucifer himself.

Yes , and the Catholic Church was also rampant with homosexual priests who just adored the little Orphans - poor example - very poor example.

 

[WinterBorn]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

I'm suggesting that way back in the 60s and 70s, there was a conscious effort to devalue marriage. People were encouraged to find themselves instead. We got no fault divorce. We eliminated disapproval and replaced it with societal approval of men and women who abandoned their families and children to pursue self fulfillment. Divorce was the cure for boredom. Marriage was sexually confining. If you don't want to get a divorce, at least have an affair.

Had we not stopped supporting marriage and instead supported the destruction of those marriages we would not be discussing same sex marriage today. It would never even be mentioned. First marriage itself had to be weakened. Then it could be replaced.

Right, because it was better to stay in relationships where both people were miserable or one was being abused, than to leave and find a better place?

What you are suggesting is a sacrifice of people's happiness in order to maintain an institution. If you think that is better, then feel free to live that way. Personally, I see that people should be free to be where they will be at their best. I do believe that children should never be abandoned. But abandoning children is not a liberal concept. Conservatives have done it too. Taking care of children is about individual responsibility.

 

[GreenBean]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

Socio-fascist Liberalism, Rabid Man Hating Lesbian fueled Feminism , are all aimed at destroying the most powerful and enduring of Human Institutions -The Family Unit . Divide and Conquer - drive a wedge between the foundation of the family unit -Mother and Father- you've won. The father was allways the symbol of strength - symbolically castrating the Male has been a long term goal of the socio-fascists

 

[WinterBorn]

If liberals had not been so successful in destroying marriage, we would not be having the same sex marriage discussion now.

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

Socio-fascist Liberalism, Rabid Man Hating Lesbian fueled Feminism , are all aimed at destroying the most powerful and enduring of Human Institutions -The Family Unit . Divide and Conquer - drive a wedge between the foundation of the family unit -Mother and Father- you've won. The father was allways the symbol of strength - symbolically castrating the Male has been a long term goal of the socio-fascists

Oh jeez, more cliches.

Yeah, I am sure you hate to see things change. I am sure you would prefer it roll back 100 years to the time when a man could beat his wife as long as the stick he used was no bigger than his thumb. I'm sure you would prefer it be back to a situation where women could not leave the bad marriage because they had no marketable skills and no money of their own.

The women of today are strong, independent individuals. If you can't handle that, I guess blaming someone else is inevitable.

 

[GreenBean]

Each individual couple decides to marry and decides to divorce. Unless you want to claim that only liberals get divorced?

Socio-fascist Liberalism, Rabid Man Hating Lesbian fueled Feminism , are all aimed at destroying the most powerful and enduring of Human Institutions -The Family Unit . Divide and Conquer - drive a wedge between the foundation of the family unit -Mother and Father- you've won. The father was allways the symbol of strength - symbolically castrating the Male has been a long term goal of the socio-fascists

Oh jeez, more cliches.

Yeah, I am sure you hate to see things change. I am sure you would prefer it roll back 100 years to the time when a man could beat his wife as long as the stick he used was no bigger than his thumb. I'm sure you would prefer it be back to a situation where women could not leave the bad marriage because they had no marketable skills and no money of their own.

The women of today are strong, independent individuals. If you can't handle that, I guess blaming someone else is inevitable.

Your argument , whether you realize it or not is using a tactic known as "Framing" .

Framing is a psychological theory which suggests that people will have a different reaction to an idea when it is given a positive spin than they would if it was given a negative spin.

To spin the BS that the dissolution of the family unit is due to masculine brutality and machismo domination is a tactic that frames the argument in your favor -sorry buddy boy that shit don't fly.

 

[WinterBorn]

Socio-fascist Liberalism, Rabid Man Hating Lesbian fueled Feminism , are all aimed at destroying the most powerful and enduring of Human Institutions -The Family Unit . Divide and Conquer - drive a wedge between the foundation of the family unit -Mother and Father- you've won. The father was allways the symbol of strength - symbolically castrating the Male has been a long term goal of the socio-fascists

Oh jeez, more cliches.

Yeah, I am sure you hate to see things change. I am sure you would prefer it roll back 100 years to the time when a man could beat his wife as long as the stick he used was no bigger than his thumb. I'm sure you would prefer it be back to a situation where women could not leave the bad marriage because they had no marketable skills and no money of their own.

The women of today are strong, independent individuals. If you can't handle that, I guess blaming someone else is inevitable.

Your argument , whether you realize it or not is using a tactic known as "Framing" .

Framing is a psychological theory which suggests that people will have a different reaction to an idea when it is given a positive spin than they would if it was given a negative spin.

To spin the BS that the dissolution of the family unit is due to masculine brutality and machismo domination is a tactic that frames the argument in your favor -sorry buddy boy that shit don't fly.

Oh but labeling all feminists as "Rabid Man Hating Lesbian" is a legit argument? lol

And yes, there was brutality in marriages. It is not gone, but at least now it is not seen as something that should be ignored.

The increase in the number of divorces is due, mainly, to the removal of the stigma attached to being divorced. And if the people did not want to remain married, why would you want them to do so? People don't divorce to get out of good marriages. Why would you want them to stay in a bad one? Do you think that is good for the kids or for the couple involved?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mass Murder is equivalent to marriage equality?

The programming of the far right social con's agenda to devalue humanity is failing apart.

The haters are frothing.