What should the verdict be in the Floyd trial?

[Mac-7]

The verdict should be not guilty

but I think libs have stacked the jury and the best that can be hoped for is a no decision

 

[Mac-7]

Was the man who died a good man or a bad man?

He was a loser

 

[miketx]

They are going for 3rd degree murder. Did the cop commit 3rd degree murder?

Murder in United States law - Wikipedia

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I'd say the verdict should be re-animate Floyd and kill him again.

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

As I said in another thread:

Minnesota's third-degree murder statute reads: "Whoever, without intent…causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life…"

"perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others" - the Minneapolis police are instructed to do this to subdue somebody who is resisting arrest, right? So, is it eminently dangerous to others? Eminently means 'extremely'; is it really? How many others have died from a knee to the neck vs how many didn't? Would Floyd have died if he didn't have that Fentenyl in his body? Absent that condition was the action Chauvin took extremely dangerous to others?

"evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life…" - how the hell do you prove that in a court of law? Chauvin was performing his duty according to his training, was he not? How are you going to show a 'depraved mind' when his training told him to do it?

All that said, an argument could be made that Chauvin should have taken his knee off Floyd's neck sooner than he did. I don't know the correct term for that misconduct, but I don't think he is guilty of 3rd degree murder.

To the OP's question, I think Chauvin should be found guilty of the charges brought. I do think he was guilty of some kind of lesser charge, whatever you might call that. The knee to the neck is standard procedure, no? (Asking, don't really know for sure.) How many people die from that if they do not have a prior debilitating health condition? I'm thinking not so many, thus it ain't eminently dangerous.

So cops should find out if you have a health condition before they bounce on your neck for nine minutes?

He was loaded with three times the amount of fentanyl and methamphetamines that could kill a person. That's what killed him. Most emotional weaklings will go along with the media lies and narrative.

Not to mention heart disease. He was not choked out. He crashed due to the stress of the situation.

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

Was the man who died a good man or a bad man?

He was a loser

Yeah, he was the wrong person to be held up as the BLM poster child.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

As I said in another thread:

Minnesota's third-degree murder statute reads: "Whoever, without intent…causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life…"

"perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others" - the Minneapolis police are instructed to do this to subdue somebody who is resisting arrest, right? So, is it eminently dangerous to others? Eminently means 'extremely'; is it really? How many others have died from a knee to the neck vs how many didn't? Would Floyd have died if he didn't have that Fentenyl in his body? Absent that condition was the action Chauvin took extremely dangerous to others?

"evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life…" - how the hell do you prove that in a court of law? Chauvin was performing his duty according to his training, was he not? How are you going to show a 'depraved mind' when his training told him to do it?

All that said, an argument could be made that Chauvin should have taken his knee off Floyd's neck sooner than he did. I don't know the correct term for that misconduct, but I don't think he is guilty of 3rd degree murder.

To the OP's question, I think Chauvin should be found guilty of the charges brought. I do think he was guilty of some kind of lesser charge, whatever you might call that. The knee to the neck is standard procedure, no? (Asking, don't really know for sure.) How many people die from that if they do not have a prior debilitating health condition? I'm thinking not so many, thus it ain't eminently dangerous.

So cops should find out if you have a health condition before they bounce on your neck for nine minutes?

He was loaded with three times the amount of fentanyl and methamphetamines that could kill a person. That's what killed him. Most emotional weaklings will go along with the media lies and narrative.

Not to mention heart disease. He was not choked out. He crashed due to the stress of the situation.

Thats true and the reports are saying he also had the virus.

 

[Likkmee]

As soon as Roger Waters finds another attorney willing to go after Gilmore

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They are going for 3rd degree murder. Did the cop commit 3rd degree murder?

Murder in United States law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Minnesota 3rd degree murder is pretty similar to manslaughter. Definitely fits this situation better than 1st or 2nd degree.

3rd degree murder still requires a depraved heart where manslaughter only requires negligence.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The mob wants a murder 1, as if the cop planned it for months

 

[2aguy]

They are going for 3rd degree murder. Did the cop commit 3rd degree murder?

Murder in United States law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not guilty, reinstated as police officer.

 

[Concerned American]

Impossible to say before a single witness is heard or a single piece of evidence is shown.

However, I'm more concerned about the BLM/Antifa mobs intimidating jurors. If I lived in Hennepin County I would be hard pressed to vote for innocence even if I thought the case wasn't proven. Its tough to watch your house burn because you don't go along with the liberal mob.

Anyone intimidating or doxxing jurors shoupd be arrested and prosecuted. That is 3rd world shit.

Sadly, so is a fence around the capitol. (That is 3rd world shit)

 

[Concerned American]

The mob wants a murder 1, as if the cop planned it for months

The people in that CHAZ should be happy I don't run things. I would put a company of guardsman behind a D-10 and push that shit all the way to the dump while subduing and locking up anyone who stood in opposition. We have laws in this country and there are avenues available for legal recourse that do not involve the usurpation of individual rights by a mob.

 

[Anathema]

They are going for 3rd degree murder. Did the cop commit 3rd degree murder?

No he did not. Criminals are animals not people. You cannot murder an animal under current laws.

 

[Missourian]

So cops should find out if you have a health condition before they bounce on your neck for nine minutes?

You should consider your health condition before you instigate a situation where police are forced to restrain you.

 

[Chillicothe]

What the hell are the cops supposed to do? Beg a suspect to behave?

Well, personally, if I was LEO, I wouldn't beg.
However, I likely wouldn't kneel on a prostrate man's throat --on a hard surface ---for over 9-minutes, despite my fellow officers requesting me to back off and let up.
But that's just me.

NOT GUILTY
Fuck the left
Fuck the media
Fuck BLM

Well, yes. There is that sentiment by some that could be expected...and predicted.
After all, the many many sources available that offer anger-management mitigation are not always contacted by the people who need the help. So yeah, such can be expected.


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Was the man who died a good man or a bad man?

Or, was he a prostrated "good man" who died while an officer kneeled on his throat for over 9 minutes?
Or, was he a prostrated "bad man" who died while an officer kneeled on his throat for over 9 minutes?

Just want to be clear. No?

He was a loser

Capital offense, immediate death penalty?
No need for trial?
Prosecution's case?
Defense's case?

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I love this bar!

 

[ColonelAngus]

The mob wants a murder 1, as if the cop planned it for months

The people in that CHAZ should be happy I don't run things. I would put a company of guardsman behind a D-10 and push that shit all the way to the dump while subduing and locking up anyone who stood in opposition. We have laws in this country and there are avenues available for legal recourse that do not involve the usurpation of individual rights by a mob.

What exactly is up with the Autonomous George Floyd zone. Why is LE allowing it to happen?

 

[Mac-7]

Capital offense,
immediate death penalty?
No need for trial?
Prosecution's case?
Defense case?

The answer to all of the above is no

 

[2aguy]

The mob wants a murder 1, as if the cop planned it for months

The people in that CHAZ should be happy I don't run things. I would put a company of guardsman behind a D-10 and push that shit all the way to the dump while subduing and locking up anyone who stood in opposition. We have laws in this country and there are avenues available for legal recourse that do not involve the usurpation of individual rights by a mob.

What exactly is up with the Autonomous George Floyd zone. Why is LE allowing it to happen?

They aren't, the democrats in charge are allowing it........

 

[ColonelAngus]

The mob wants a murder 1, as if the cop planned it for months

The people in that CHAZ should be happy I don't run things. I would put a company of guardsman behind a D-10 and push that shit all the way to the dump while subduing and locking up anyone who stood in opposition. We have laws in this country and there are avenues available for legal recourse that do not involve the usurpation of individual rights by a mob.

What exactly is up with the Autonomous George Floyd zone. Why is LE allowing it to happen?

They aren't, the democrats in charge are allowing it........

How can they allow anarchists to just take over parts of a city with no repercussions?

 

[Lesh]

So cops should find out if you have a health condition before they bounce on your neck for nine minutes?

You should consider your health condition before you instigate a situation where police are forced to restrain you.

Passing a supposed $20 bill? Do you check every bill you get? Do you even know how?