What the big deal with this "memo"?

[Slade3200]

I haven't seen any crying but if you are talking about opposition then it is probably because Democrats who have read it say it is an incomplete and misrepresentation of the facts. So of course, if that is true then there should be objections.

Oh gee, we as Americans are to dumb to figure out that 2 + 2 = 4. Ummmmmmm, I am sorry, but even an illegal alien can probably figure that out.

Tell you what, and I am being sincere..........................no matter what the facts they supposedly release, if their is no evidence with it, I will be right there with you. I don't want an opinion piece, that doesn't cut it. It brings everything back to right where we are now.

But I am confident that not only will there be evidence, more things will come out as it goes along.

Why do I think this?

Because no political party is going to shoot its cannon this far in advance of the midterms. They had all this in late October, so they could have done it any time from there, forward.

Nope, this is just the start. Republicans are old and slow, and usually kind of lazy as you can see by the fact they very seldom picket, or riot. But dumb, they aren't. They know their asses are on the line in this election, and starting some nonsensical crap like this to activate their base is not enough. Their base will not keep the House and Senate. They need independents, and to do that, they have to reform the Trump Russian delusion, and show that Democrats are crooks. This will do both!

I think what is happening is pretty obvious. Trump is still trying to back up his "Obama wire tapped me" claim. It started when Nunes snuck over to the white house and got the scoop of how Trump wanted to push this story and then tried to push that narrative to light. He had to recuse himself from leading the investigation and his conduct was sent to the ethics committee. He laid low for a while but this memo is him resurfacing with that same narrative. Corrupt agents in the FBI, illegal FISA warrants, Obama wiretapped Trump, Russia investigation is a fake witch hunt... Its all pretty transparent what he's pushing.

As I said, if there is no national security implications then release the memo. I don't give a shit, i'm not trying to shut it down. I just think its funny that people are making such a big deal out of observations that an ethically challenged partisan is making about an investigation he had to recuse himself from last year. Its a joke.

What is a joke is wasting time and promoting division when Trump was elected president. The economy is booming and people insist Trump has to go because they dislike him? Grow up and help unite America not tear it down and using the president to do it.

Nice diversion. I started threads after the election speaking out agains the resisters calling form dems to give Trump a chance and show how to be a productive minority party. For the most part they haven't done that, but that is a different subject than this thread.

I have to check with you before I post?

No, is that what you think I said?

 

[Slade3200]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio. I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative that they think progresses their agenda. It may work with their blind loyalist base but objective thinking people see right through that crap. It happens from the wingnuts on the Left too.

I really don't understand the hype around this memo. All it sounds to be is a partisan spin on sensitive information. The Reps want to release a bias narrative and the Dems appear ready to release their bias spin to retort. It's all a joke. I'd rather the testimony and transcripts from their hearings be released rather than some spin job memo.

Wake up people, this memo buzz is just media and partisan hype. Remember when the author of the memo Nunez got caught pulling a PR stunt last year and had to recuse himself from leading the investigation? We are being played by partisan hacks. The "memo" is meaningless, no different than that Dossier that the right hates so much. We all need to grow up

maybe. lot of that going on. but there's been a lot of smoke here for a long time and if this is based off FISA already saying obama camp went too far, and we have a memo that mentions they don't care or the like - wouldn't that be huge?

if you honestly think russia, if true, is bad - how bad is it, if true, that our own FBI and president spied on "opponents" breaking their own rules to do so? you don't even know what it is and yet, here you are saying it's all a pack of lies.

maybe. but i'm ok with waiting til it comes out before i pass judgement. every time i've done that i had to work hard to get by my own bias because i kept trying to prove i was right when all the while i should be just looking for what is true.

any of this bother you - on it's own. don't defend or attack - just does our gov doing this bother you?
NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year, audit finds

New report reveals NSA's past decade of unlawful surveillance

Obama’s NSA rebuked for snooping on Americans; journo says it proves wide pattern

Bush Lets U.S. Spy on Callers Without Courts

Obama's rule changes opened door for NSA intercepts of Americans to reach political hands

this isn't picking on obama - this is getting pissed at our government for continuing to invade deeper and deeper into our lives and due process is dying along the way. we need to care 100% what our government as a whole is doing and stop this they suck no they suck shit.

that's how they keep getting away with it.

The “memo” isn’t some secret document, it is a partisan narrative of what a group of fringe republicans are spinning from the investigation. If Chuck Schumer and pelosi wrote a “memo” of Russia collusion with Trump, how much weight would you give it??

There was a very in depth investigation from a congressional committee. The findings of that investigation should be reported by that committee. Not a handful of members that have shown complete bias partisanship throughout this situation. The damn author of the “memo” had to recuse himelself from leading this investigation!!!! Come on people.

When did you get to read it?

I didn't read it, I explained where my opinions came from... did you not understand?

I'm just sad that yet another partisan has already pre-judged and decided to not accept a document (no matter what the facts say) before having any knowledge whatsoever of its contents.

Here are the facts bucko. There was a bipartisan committee that conducted a detailed investigation that lasted for almost a year. Instead of reporting the findings in unity a rogue set of partisan politicians wrote a secret memo that many have read and reported that it is incomplete and misleading. That is not how committee investigation findings should be disclosed. Release the memo and cause a partisan stir for the next few weeks, fine, thats all thats going to happen. But at some point I hope our leaders and even us the drama hungry public can grow up a bit and act like professionals.

 

[Slade3200]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio. I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative that they think progresses their agenda. It may work with their blind loyalist base but objective thinking people see right through that crap. It happens from the wingnuts on the Left too.

I really don't understand the hype around this memo. All it sounds to be is a partisan spin on sensitive information. The Reps want to release a bias narrative and the Dems appear ready to release their bias spin to retort. It's all a joke. I'd rather the testimony and transcripts from their hearings be released rather than some spin job memo.

Wake up people, this memo buzz is just media and partisan hype. Remember when the author of the memo Nunez got caught pulling a PR stunt last year and had to recuse himself from leading the investigation? We are being played by partisan hacks. The "memo" is meaningless, no different than that Dossier that the right hates so much. We all need to grow up

Sounds like one predetermined vote, no matter the facts.

Im fine with facts. They should be presented by the Investigating body in coordination with the FBI and DOJ to make sure national security info is not compromised. Not in secret and through vague leaks by a couple rogue politicians who are proven partisans. This is an obvious tactic and yall are falling for it.

If they present no facts, than there's nothing to be gained. The reality, though, that classified information is involved tells me that there probably is corroborating evidence to back up the memo (unlike, of course, the infamous dossier).

Since when do the partisans need facts to waste our time with wild theories and opinions that consume our news cycles? Thats all this memo is going to do. The Dems will release their spin on things and the two sides will battle it out and waste our time until spring time. yawn

 

[Thinker101]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio. I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative that they think progresses their agenda. It may work with their blind loyalist base but objective thinking people see right through that crap. It happens from the wingnuts on the Left too.

I really don't understand the hype around this memo. All it sounds to be is a partisan spin on sensitive information. The Reps want to release a bias narrative and the Dems appear ready to release their bias spin to retort. It's all a joke. I'd rather the testimony and transcripts from their hearings be released rather than some spin job memo.

Wake up people, this memo buzz is just media and partisan hype. Remember when the author of the memo Nunez got caught pulling a PR stunt last year and had to recuse himself from leading the investigation? We are being played by partisan hacks. The "memo" is meaningless, no different than that Dossier that the right hates so much. We all need to grow up

Sure, just ask you....wait, you've seen it?

Like I said, I hear these jackholes in interviews almost every day. All they do is bias partisan spin and it is so obvious. I have zero faith that any "memo" they author is going to be honest. I'm fine with releasing it as long as it doesn't compromise national security, but I give their opinions as much weight as I give the National Enquirer

Doesn't compromise national security??? That ship has already sailed...just ask Obama or Hillary.

 

[iceberg]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio.

I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative

You have seen the memo with your own eyes? Wait, you have not so

I have not... I've heard the Author and his buddy's talking about it along with other BS hyped up conspiracy theories, so it's not a new song they are singing. Their credibility is in the dumpster as far as i'm concerned.

Like I asked earlier. If you heard that Schumer and Pelosi had excluded Republicans to author a secret memo exposing Trumps collusion with Russia, would you assume it credible or partisan hype? Add to that accounts from Republicans that read the memo and said it was full of misrepresentations and inaccuracies. Really think about that...

I'll make this simple for you, you know jack shit about this memo hence you are in no position to declare it partisan spin or anything of the sort. Even more ridiculous you base your personal opinions on what you have heard on tv and radio wow.

I base my opinions on what I hear the authors of this "memo" say on TV and radio. These are their words and opinions. The memo is their words and opinions. Do you not see the correlation?

Why did you ignore answering my question about Schumer and Pelosi. If they had a memo would you be assuming it was partisan or would you be defending the "wait and see" position that you are doing now. Be honest

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

 

[Slade3200]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio. I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative that they think progresses their agenda. It may work with their blind loyalist base but objective thinking people see right through that crap. It happens from the wingnuts on the Left too.

I really don't understand the hype around this memo. All it sounds to be is a partisan spin on sensitive information. The Reps want to release a bias narrative and the Dems appear ready to release their bias spin to retort. It's all a joke. I'd rather the testimony and transcripts from their hearings be released rather than some spin job memo.

Wake up people, this memo buzz is just media and partisan hype. Remember when the author of the memo Nunez got caught pulling a PR stunt last year and had to recuse himself from leading the investigation? We are being played by partisan hacks. The "memo" is meaningless, no different than that Dossier that the right hates so much. We all need to grow up

Sure, just ask you....wait, you've seen it?

Like I said, I hear these jackholes in interviews almost every day. All they do is bias partisan spin and it is so obvious. I have zero faith that any "memo" they author is going to be honest. I'm fine with releasing it as long as it doesn't compromise national security, but I give their opinions as much weight as I give the National Enquirer

Doesn't compromise national security??? That ship has already sailed...just ask Obama or Hillary.

So whats are you saying? Since Obama and Hillary were careless with national security then fuck it, everybody can be careless?

 

[Slade3200]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio.

I have not... I've heard the Author and his buddy's talking about it along with other BS hyped up conspiracy theories, so it's not a new song they are singing. Their credibility is in the dumpster as far as i'm concerned.

Like I asked earlier. If you heard that Schumer and Pelosi had excluded Republicans to author a secret memo exposing Trumps collusion with Russia, would you assume it credible or partisan hype? Add to that accounts from Republicans that read the memo and said it was full of misrepresentations and inaccuracies. Really think about that...

I'll make this simple for you, you know jack shit about this memo hence you are in no position to declare it partisan spin or anything of the sort. Even more ridiculous you base your personal opinions on what you have heard on tv and radio wow.

I base my opinions on what I hear the authors of this "memo" say on TV and radio. These are their words and opinions. The memo is their words and opinions. Do you not see the correlation?

Why did you ignore answering my question about Schumer and Pelosi. If they had a memo would you be assuming it was partisan or would you be defending the "wait and see" position that you are doing now. Be honest

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

 

[Thinker101]

I hear the authors of this "Memo" spew their partisan spin every other night on Hannity and Conservative radio. I'm well aware of how they warp reality to fit a narrative that they think progresses their agenda. It may work with their blind loyalist base but objective thinking people see right through that crap. It happens from the wingnuts on the Left too.

I really don't understand the hype around this memo. All it sounds to be is a partisan spin on sensitive information. The Reps want to release a bias narrative and the Dems appear ready to release their bias spin to retort. It's all a joke. I'd rather the testimony and transcripts from their hearings be released rather than some spin job memo.

Wake up people, this memo buzz is just media and partisan hype. Remember when the author of the memo Nunez got caught pulling a PR stunt last year and had to recuse himself from leading the investigation? We are being played by partisan hacks. The "memo" is meaningless, no different than that Dossier that the right hates so much. We all need to grow up

Sure, just ask you....wait, you've seen it?

Like I said, I hear these jackholes in interviews almost every day. All they do is bias partisan spin and it is so obvious. I have zero faith that any "memo" they author is going to be honest. I'm fine with releasing it as long as it doesn't compromise national security, but I give their opinions as much weight as I give the National Enquirer

Doesn't compromise national security??? That ship has already sailed...just ask Obama or Hillary.

So whats are you saying? Since Obama and Hillary were careless with national security then fuck it, everybody can be careless?

Not at all, but I do feel we should know just how careless they were.

 

[iceberg]

I'll make this simple for you, you know jack shit about this memo hence you are in no position to declare it partisan spin or anything of the sort. Even more ridiculous you base your personal opinions on what you have heard on tv and radio wow.

I base my opinions on what I hear the authors of this "memo" say on TV and radio. These are their words and opinions. The memo is their words and opinions. Do you not see the correlation?

Why did you ignore answering my question about Schumer and Pelosi. If they had a memo would you be assuming it was partisan or would you be defending the "wait and see" position that you are doing now. Be honest

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

 

[Coyote]

Ever notice all the good shit that we see is when they dont say a word?

I get dizzy listening to these partisan Yahoos on both sides. The only ones I can semi take seriously are the moderates that speak out critically against members of their own party.

I'm at the point of ignoring most of it - especially if preceded by "Breaking". I'm going to wait until the investigation is DONE and the official report DONE. No one really "knows" anything. It's just smoke and mirrors and a bitter intractible partisan divide.

 

[Coyote]

I base my opinions on what I hear the authors of this "memo" say on TV and radio. These are their words and opinions. The memo is their words and opinions. Do you not see the correlation?

Why did you ignore answering my question about Schumer and Pelosi. If they had a memo would you be assuming it was partisan or would you be defending the "wait and see" position that you are doing now. Be honest

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

How do you know it's incompetence from our FBI? They've been working non stop to discredit the FBI and DoJ in this with no actual evidence at this point. These are institutions I have more respect for than some of our elected representatives at this point.

 

[Slade3200]

I base my opinions on what I hear the authors of this "memo" say on TV and radio. These are their words and opinions. The memo is their words and opinions. Do you not see the correlation?

Why did you ignore answering my question about Schumer and Pelosi. If they had a memo would you be assuming it was partisan or would you be defending the "wait and see" position that you are doing now. Be honest

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

 

[Coyote]

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

What is happening is not just an active campaign to discredit the FBI and DoJ, but also the media, the courts, and our electoral processes. It's very disturbing - I've never seen attacks like this nor such intense efforts to politicize these institutions and attack the professionalism of career people who have served under multiple administrations.

 

[iceberg]

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

How do you know it's incompetence from our FBI? They've been working non stop to discredit the FBI and DoJ in this with no actual evidence at this point. These are institutions I have more respect for than some of our elected representatives at this point.

who else loses evidence they never collected (as told by FBI defenders here over the last few days) and then finds it?

and if they give trump all the breaks they gave hillary, you're fine with that? or did hillary not get any breaks (aka, a matter, not an investigation and careless, not negligence - that stuff would be ok if they toned down the trump assault?

 

[iceberg]

I cannot comment on a memo I have not seen. I can comment on known facts that suggest the memo may be factual, like these two trump hating clowns at the FBI who both worked for Mueller I suppose that's just a coincidence. The DOJ and FBI using burner phones, just another coincidence. The FBI failing to capture records for 5 months due to a 'glitch' riiiiiiiight.

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

and i think they let hillary off and toned it down and pulled their punches while they plot to oust trump.

at least that's how it looks to me.

we'll see how it goes from here. my mind is open to just about anything at this point - but it better be based in even law for us all.

 

[iceberg]

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

What is happening is not just an active campaign to discredit the FBI and DoJ, but also the media, the courts, and our electoral processes. It's very disturbing - I've never seen attacks like this nor such intense efforts to politicize these institutions and attack the professionalism of career people who have served under multiple administrations.

the media? really? this didn't start with obama going after fox news?

to be clear - no president should get involved with the media the way the last 2 have. but let's not pretend the media shit is anything new. if trump kicked it up some, well that's what happens when you allow your side to get away with bullshit, the other side will push it then point to back. then they will push it again and again and again and look where it gets us?

if they can attack trump, they damn well better be able to defend the manner in which they do it, these professionals who text insurance plans to their mistresses...

 

[Slade3200]

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

How do you know it's incompetence from our FBI? They've been working non stop to discredit the FBI and DoJ in this with no actual evidence at this point. These are institutions I have more respect for than some of our elected representatives at this point.

who else loses evidence they never collected (as told by FBI defenders here over the last few days) and then finds it?

and if they give trump all the breaks they gave hillary, you're fine with that? or did hillary not get any breaks (aka, a matter, not an investigation and careless, not negligence - that stuff would be ok if they toned down the trump assault?

Are you talking about the text messages? Cause they had problems pulling those up and then the IG was able to recover them in like 30 minutes. So nothing lost. Or are you talking about something else?

 

[Slade3200]

The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

and i think they let hillary off and toned it down and pulled their punches while they plot to oust trump.

at least that's how it looks to me.

we'll see how it goes from here. my mind is open to just about anything at this point - but it better be based in even law for us all.

It takes a lot to arrest a public servant. It’s got to be a pretty blatant offense. I think you would have been shock had they actually arrested Hillary a month before the election. At least it would have shock me. I thought Comeys statement about her carelessness was pretty shocking to be honest. I would also be shocked if any charges were pressed against Trump, no way

 

[Coyote]

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

I think the incompetence of the FBI is being overblown to sew seeds of doubt in their investigation into Trump. I could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. There has been a very active campaign from the Trumpsters to make this point and i find it very dangerous. If I am wrong and evidence comes to light to prove gross misconduct then I'll apologize and be grateful it has come to light.

What is happening is not just an active campaign to discredit the FBI and DoJ, but also the media, the courts, and our electoral processes. It's very disturbing - I've never seen attacks like this nor such intense efforts to politicize these institutions and attack the professionalism of career people who have served under multiple administrations.

the media? really? this didn't start with obama going after fox news?

Obama didn't go after the media to the extent that this president has.

to be clear - no president should get involved with the media the way the last 2 have. but let's not pretend the media shit is anything new. if trump kicked it up some, well that's what happens when you allow your side to get away with bullshit, the other side will push it then point to back. then they will push it again and again and again and look where it gets us?

I wonder if it's possible you can ever criticize Trump with out trying to blame Obama? Obama's rhetoric towards Fox was mild compared to Trump and I don't recall Obama ever putting the role of the entire media in question. Trump painted them as an adversary to democracy and that ought to be disturbing to anyone who supports both the democratic process, the role of the press in preserving it...and freedom.

if they can attack trump, they damn well better be able to defend the manner in which they do it, these professionals who text insurance plans to their mistresses...

So Trump and his supporters are so thin skinned eh? That indicates a huge insecurity.

 

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The "trump haters" where removed, who gives a shit if FBI agents use burner phones, and the lost records have been found. Strike 3

so if trumps camp starts using burner phones and destroying messages, we're cool?

I don't know, I guess I look at burner phones as a common thing in law enforcement. I could be wrong, but I'd have to look at why they were used. I don't know what destroyed messages you are talking about. If it is government intel then no

so it wouldn't bother you if evidence against trump were this mishandled?

not defending trump - just tired of incompetence from our FBI.

How do you know it's incompetence from our FBI? They've been working non stop to discredit the FBI and DoJ in this with no actual evidence at this point. These are institutions I have more respect for than some of our elected representatives at this point.

who else loses evidence they never collected (as told by FBI defenders here over the last few days) and then finds it?

and if they give trump all the breaks they gave hillary, you're fine with that? or did hillary not get any breaks (aka, a matter, not an investigation and careless, not negligence - that stuff would be ok if they toned down the trump assault?

Any "breaks" Hillary got were lost by the public thrashing she got by Comey (unprecidented I might add, as they usually sau very little other than indictment or not) and by Comey's announcement days before the election that he was reopening it (also an unprecedented). Add to that - she lost the election. So isn't it time to TONE DOWN the Clinton assault and focus on what is happening with the man in office NOW. Clinton is passe. She lost. She is unlikely to have any other political future.

Trump is currently the man in power.