What they're not telling you about the Middle East

[Wolfstrike]

They talk about "corrupt" governments, Hezbala , ...The Pita Bread Brotherhood....
what has been going on in the Middle East is the same thing that's always going on.
Sunis are fighting Shi'ites.

The media and the government are trying to cover up the simplicity.
We were always told the Shi'ites were the crazy ones, now the U.S. government wants to get better control of the Sunis.
They're using the name of governments and radical groups so we don't officially declare war on the Sunis, and the American public doesn't relize the 2 minutes of hate has now changed.

 

[waltky]

Ever'body inna Middle East got the bejeebers!...

FROM RIYADH TO BEIRUT, FEAR OF SYRIA BLOWBACK
Feb 28,`14 -- The once-tranquil, religiously mixed village of Bisariyeh is seething: Two of its young men who fought alongside the rebels in Syria recently returned home radicalized and staged suicide bombings in Lebanon.

The phenomenon is being watched anxiously across the Mideast, particularly in Saudi Arabia, where authorities are moving decisively to prevent citizens from going off to fight in Syria. The developments illustrate how the Syrian war is sending dangerous ripples across a highly combustible region and sparking fears that jihadis will come home with dangerous ideas and turn their weapons against their own countries.

In Lebanon, where longstanding tensions between Sunnis and Shiites have been heightened by the conflict next door, the fear of blowback has very much turned into reality. The social fabric of towns and villages across the country is being torn by conflicting loyalties and a wave of bombings carried out by Sunni extremists in retaliation for the Iranian-backed Shiite group Hezbollah's military support of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

In the past few months, at least five Sunni men have disappeared from Bisariyeh, an impoverished, predominantly Shiite village in south Lebanon, and are believed to have gone to fight in Syria. Two of them - Nidal Mughayar and Adan al-Mohammad - returned and blew themselves up outside Iranian targets in Beirut. The blasts, by Mughayar on Feb. 19 and al-Mohammad on Nov. 18, killed scores. "He was a good man with a good heart, but it seems that people who have no conscience brainwashed him," Hisham al-Mughayar said of his 20-year-old son.

As news spread in the village that Nidal was one of the bombers, angry Shiite residents marched to his parents' home and set it on fire along with the family's grocery and four vehicles. "He destroyed himself and destroyed us with him," said the father, as he took an Associated Press reporter on a tour of his torched, two-story house, much of its furniture reduced to ashes. Concern about such radicalization has sent Mideast governments scrambling into action.

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[PaintMyHouse]

They talk about "corrupt" governments, Hezbala , ...The Pita Bread Brotherhood....
what has been going on in the Middle East is the same thing that's always going on.
Sunis are fighting Shi'ites.

The media and the government are trying to cover up the simplicity.
We were always told the Shi'ites were the crazy ones, now the U.S. government wants to get better control of the Sunis.
They're using the name of governments and radical groups so we don't officially declare war on the Sunis, and the American public doesn't relize the 2 minutes of hate has now changed.

Just out of curiosity, why should the US concern itself with this? Is the Middle East next to us like Canada or Mexico? Did the Founders want us to run around the world and try to make everything warm and fuzzy?

 

[georgephillip]

In the spring of 2003 just before the US invasion of Iraq, retired general Wesley Clark created a stir by revealing two conversations he had in the Pentagon within weeks of 911

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Obviously, the timeline was ambitious, but that doesn't change an overall plan that is still in play from Cairo to Crimea.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TemplarKormac]

What aren't they telling us? That it isn't any of our business?

 

[georgephillip]

What aren't they telling us? That it isn't any of our business?

Apparently, a few of us have been doing business in the Middle East since 1928:

"The well at Baba Gurgur was located by geologist J.M. Muir just north of Kirkuk. Drilling started, and in the early hours of 14 October 1927 oil was struck. Many tons of oil were spilled before the gushing well was brought under control, and the oil field soon proved to be extensive.[11][12]

"The discovery hastened the negotiations over the composition of TPC,(Turkish Petroleum Company) and on 31 July 1928 the shareholders signed a formal partnership agreement to include the Near East Development Corporation (NEDC), an American consortium of five large US oil companies that included Standard Oil of New Jersey (later Exxon, eventually ExxonMobil in 1999), Standard Oil Company of New York (Socony) (later Mobil, which eventually amalgamated to ExxonMobil), Gulf Oil (which later merged with Chevron in 1984), the Pan-American Petroleum and Transport Company, and Atlantic Richfield Co. (later ARCO; eventually acquired by BP in 1999)."

Iraq Petroleum Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As always, profits are largely private while costs are socialized onto the backs of taxpayers and troops.

 

[editec]

They talk about "corrupt" governments, Hezbala , ...The Pita Bread Brotherhood....
what has been going on in the Middle East is the same thing that's always going on.
Sunis are fighting Shi'ites.

The media and the government are trying to cover up the simplicity.
We were always told the Shi'ites were the crazy ones, now the U.S. government wants to get better control of the Sunis.
They're using the name of governments and radical groups so we don't officially declare war on the Sunis, and the American public doesn't relize the 2 minutes of hate has now changed.

Just out of curiosity, why should the US concern itself with this? Is the Middle East next to us like Canada or Mexico? Did the Founders want us to run around the world and try to make everything warm and fuzzy?

Saudi Arabian oil and the power of PETRODOLLARS.

That's why.

Of the two the power of the petrodollar is actually much more important than the oil.

 

[georgephillip]

They talk about "corrupt" governments, Hezbala , ...The Pita Bread Brotherhood....
what has been going on in the Middle East is the same thing that's always going on.
Sunis are fighting Shi'ites.

The media and the government are trying to cover up the simplicity.
We were always told the Shi'ites were the crazy ones, now the U.S. government wants to get better control of the Sunis.
They're using the name of governments and radical groups so we don't officially declare war on the Sunis, and the American public doesn't relize the 2 minutes of hate has now changed.

Just out of curiosity, why should the US concern itself with this? Is the Middle East next to us like Canada or Mexico? Did the Founders want us to run around the world and try to make everything warm and fuzzy?

Saudi Arabian oil and the power of PETRODOLLARS.

That's why.

Of the two the power of the petrodollar is actually much more important than the oil.

And when you add the power of petrodollars to the military/industrial complex you obtain Petrodollar Warfare:

"The term, petrodollar warfare, refers to a theory that one of the driving forces of the foreign policy of the United States has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced.

"The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title.

"The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Should the US dollar ever cease functioning as the world's reserve currency, the Pentagon would find it impossible to borrow enough money for military interventions on the opposite side of the planet, yet the US economy would remain hopelessly addicted to oil and warfare...

 

[aris2chat]

In the spring of 2003 just before the US invasion of Iraq, retired general Wesley Clark created a stir by revealing two conversations he had in the Pentagon within weeks of 911

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Obviously, the timeline was ambitious, but that doesn't change an overall plan that is still in play from Cairo to Crimea.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

getting rid of terrors groups that are causing wars and killing civilians. That does not mean invasion or violence. It could be training and new weapons for the local military to deal with the problem of lawlessness of fanaticals. It could be teaching or building school capable of installing computers or wifi for tables. It could be with intelligence cooperation and use of satellites images to detect terrorist activity.....
You are taking a snatch of a conversation without context and letting your imagination run wild.

 

[Hossfly]

In the spring of 2003 just before the US invasion of Iraq, retired general Wesley Clark created a stir by revealing two conversations he had in the Pentagon within weeks of 911

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Obviously, the timeline was ambitious, but that doesn't change an overall plan that is still in play from Cairo to Crimea.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

getting rid of terrors groups that are causing wars and killing civilians. That does not mean invasion or violence. It could be training and new weapons for the local military to deal with the problem of lawlessness of fanaticals. It could be teaching or building school capable of installing computers or wifi for tables. It could be with intelligence cooperation and use of satellites images to detect terrorist activity.....
You are taking a snatch of a conversation without context and letting your imagination run wild.

Plus the fact that George couldn't care less about the Palis and their need for a country. What he's not telling you is his worry about money and power.

 

[Lipush]

Tell me something I don't know...

 

[georgephillip]

In the spring of 2003 just before the US invasion of Iraq, retired general Wesley Clark created a stir by revealing two conversations he had in the Pentagon within weeks of 911

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Obviously, the timeline was ambitious, but that doesn't change an overall plan that is still in play from Cairo to Crimea.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

getting rid of terrors groups that are causing wars and killing civilians. That does not mean invasion or violence. It could be training and new weapons for the local military to deal with the problem of lawlessness of fanaticals. It could be teaching or building school capable of installing computers or wifi for tables. It could be with intelligence cooperation and use of satellites images to detect terrorist activity.....
You are taking a snatch of a conversation without context and letting your imagination run wild.

It requires no imagination to realize the fate of Saddam and Gaddafi was sealed in the Pentagon during the last three months of 2001. Assad was next on the hit list; however, US conservatives hate Obama more than they love war, so regime change in Syria and Iran has been temporarily placed on hold while the neo-cons turn their attention to Ukraine.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Tell me something I don't know...

pssssst..a certain family member is bored with you...

 

[georgephillip]

Ever'body inna Middle East got the bejeebers!...

FROM RIYADH TO BEIRUT, FEAR OF SYRIA BLOWBACK
Feb 28,`14 -- The once-tranquil, religiously mixed village of Bisariyeh is seething: Two of its young men who fought alongside the rebels in Syria recently returned home radicalized and staged suicide bombings in Lebanon.

The phenomenon is being watched anxiously across the Mideast, particularly in Saudi Arabia, where authorities are moving decisively to prevent citizens from going off to fight in Syria. The developments illustrate how the Syrian war is sending dangerous ripples across a highly combustible region and sparking fears that jihadis will come home with dangerous ideas and turn their weapons against their own countries.

In Lebanon, where longstanding tensions between Sunnis and Shiites have been heightened by the conflict next door, the fear of blowback has very much turned into reality. The social fabric of towns and villages across the country is being torn by conflicting loyalties and a wave of bombings carried out by Sunni extremists in retaliation for the Iranian-backed Shiite group Hezbollah's military support of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

In the past few months, at least five Sunni men have disappeared from Bisariyeh, an impoverished, predominantly Shiite village in south Lebanon, and are believed to have gone to fight in Syria. Two of them - Nidal Mughayar and Adan al-Mohammad - returned and blew themselves up outside Iranian targets in Beirut. The blasts, by Mughayar on Feb. 19 and al-Mohammad on Nov. 18, killed scores. "He was a good man with a good heart, but it seems that people who have no conscience brainwashed him," Hisham al-Mughayar said of his 20-year-old son.

As news spread in the village that Nidal was one of the bombers, angry Shiite residents marched to his parents' home and set it on fire along with the family's grocery and four vehicles. "He destroyed himself and destroyed us with him," said the father, as he took an Associated Press reporter on a tour of his torched, two-story house, much of its furniture reduced to ashes. Concern about such radicalization has sent Mideast governments scrambling into action.

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"Concern about such radicalization has sent Mideast governments scrambling into action.

"After years of often turning a blind eye to jihadists taking up arms abroad, Saudi Arabia is enacting new laws and backing a campaign to stop its citizens from joining Syria's civil war. The intention is to send a clear message that those who defy the law are to fight to the death and are not welcome back."

Wouldn't you think the thousands of Saudi Royals who profit most from the carnage in Syria should lead by example: fighting to the death on the road to Damascus?

News from The Associated Press