What's The GOP Plan Going Forward?

I have not hear a single forward-looking idea out of any Republican or Democrat.

I am a born and bred conservative who voted the straight GOP ticket until 2006. At that point I became so disgusted with the raving lunatics who have kidnapped the Republican party that I stopped voting altogether, except to vote on local measures on my state's ballot.

I would like a reason to vote GOP again.

So tell us, Republicans, what is the plan to bend the health care cost curve down if/when ObamaCare is tossed on the dustbin of history? What's the GOP plan? Anyone?


How is the Republican Party going to create jobs? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about Iran? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the high price of oil? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the rising cost of food? Anyone?


A hundred million voters want to know.


Stop obsessing over Obama's vacations and birth certificate and latest press conference and tell us what the plan going forward is.


Have I just stumped you? I bet I have.

Modern-day conservative Republicans are going to screw average Americans with higher taxes (through a loss of tax deductions, if nothing else) and a loss of tuition assistance, and medicare and social security benefits, (among other things), and they're going to try to sell it to us as giving us our freedom. It's kinda like the freedom you would experience of being adrift in the ocean without the encumbrance of a life-preserver that could possibly prevent you from swimming as fast as possible.

Meanwhile these self same modern-day conservative Republicans are going to lavish tax cuts, not to mention privatization contracts, on those needy wealthy corporations who just so happened (coincidentally, I'm sure) to lavish campaign contributions and PAC money their way during the election cycles.
 
No. Absolutely wrong. The "lesser of two evils" plan has gotten us more and more evil choices.

The GOP deserves Pelosi and Obama after giving us Bush.

No, I am pretty sure the Democrats took the House and Senate and we got Pelosi-Reid-Obama because not enough people voted Republican.

I believe that to be true, as well. By running off people like me, the GOP got the axis of evil into power.

'If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.'

- Neil Peart
 
Maybe they should fall back o this? What the hell ever happened to the "Contract on America" anyway?

House Republicans today unveiled "A Pledge to America", the "governing agenda" they plan to pursue if they regain control of the House of Representatives. And it calls for some changes that won't win them friends at the White House:

Permanently extend all the Bush tax cuts, including those on the wealthy.

Cancel all unspent stimulus money. As of today, about $258 billion of the $814 billion stimulus is unspent.

Repeal the Obama health care bill, replacing it with Republican proposals, including limits on malpractice lawsuits.

Block Obama's plan to move detainees at Guantanamo Bay to the United States.

"We call on the leadership of the 111th Congress to bring these reforms and policies to an immediate vote," they write in the plan unveiled today in Sterling, Va., "and ask all citizens of our nation -- men and women of good will and good heart -- who share in our beliefs, to join with us today."
 
Toxic ?

I so tell us just what the republican party platform would be if you could design it?

1. Raise the retirement age. We are living longer, we should be working longer. 6 percent of the US was over 65 when it was set as the retirement age in 1935. Today, 12 percent are over 65. We have literally doubled our entitlement load.

2. The insurance reforms outlined above in this topic, with the added goal of eliminating employer-provided health insurance. At the very least, making it so unattractive that it goes away by attrition.

3. Education, education, education. Train our children for the jobs of tomorrow. The days of growing up to work in the same tire making factory your daddy did are over. School vouchers. Empower principals to fire worthless teachers. Heavy emphasis on math and science.

4. Repeal CFMA of 2000 and FSMA of 1999 and start finanical reform from scratch, starting wtih outlawing naked CDS. Put some teeth in the SEC and send fraudsters to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for life to deter others.

5. Reform the tax code. Throw the whole book out, eliminating deductions and hidden tax breaks, and lower the corporate tax rate to 20 percent. Reform individual income tax as well, eliminating most deductions, if not all, and lower the tax rate. I seriously doubt I would succeed in eliminating the mortgage interest deduction, though. But if that remains, then there should be a credit card interest deduction. Fair is fair.

Basically, level the playing field, broaden the tax base, make the markets more competitive, and lower the tax rate.


6. Start making other countries pay for their own defense.
 
I have not hear a single forward-looking idea out of any Republican or Democrat.

I am a born and bred conservative who voted the straight GOP ticket until 2006. At that point I became so disgusted with the raving lunatics who have kidnapped the Republican party that I stopped voting altogether, except to vote on local measures on my state's ballot.

I would like a reason to vote GOP again.

So tell us, Republicans, what is the plan to bend the health care cost curve down if/when ObamaCare is tossed on the dustbin of history? What's the GOP plan? Anyone?


How is the Republican Party going to create jobs? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about Iran? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the high price of oil? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the rising cost of food? Anyone?


A hundred million voters want to know.


Stop obsessing over Obama's vacations and birth certificate and latest press conference and tell us what the plan going forward is.


Have I just stumped you? I bet I have.





We'll follow the Pelosi doctrine and tell ewe.. "you have to elect us before you can find out" how's that work for ya libtard?
 
I loved this the first time I saw it:

"Here are eight reforms that would greatly lower the cost of health care for everyone:

• Remove the legal obstacles that slow the creation of high-deductible health insurance plans and health savings accounts (HSAs). The combination of high-deductible health insurance and HSAs is one solution that could solve many of our health-care problems. For example, Whole Foods Market pays 100% of the premiums for all our team members who work 30 hours or more per week (about 89% of all team members) for our high-deductible health-insurance plan. We also provide up to $1,800 per year in additional health-care dollars through deposits into employees' Personal Wellness Accounts to spend as they choose on their own health and wellness. Money not spent in one year rolls over to the next and grows over time. Our team members therefore spend their own health-care dollars until the annual deductible is covered (about $2,500) and the insurance plan kicks in. This creates incentives to spend the first $2,500 more carefully. Our plan's costs are much lower than typical health insurance, while providing a very high degree of worker satisfaction.

• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.

• Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor's visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?

• Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program."

John Mackey: The Whole Foods Alternative to ObamaCare - WSJ.com
Yep, it's the usually GOP nonsense.
Encourage high deductible insurance that will encourage low and middle class families to ignore small health problems and preventive care which can turn into big problems and add huge costs to America's healthcare bill.

Pass tort reform which will lower healthcare costs about 1% and will do little to stop the increase in healthcare cost.

Repeal state laws that regulate healthcare insurance to increase competition. You of course, know that the states can do that now and the federal government cannot.

You say make health insurance tax deductible by the individuals. Health insurance premiums have been tax deductible for many years.

People are well aware of the cost of healthcare. Private insurance as well as Medicare and Medicaid make that information available to subscribers.

Enact Medicare reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility. In other words increase the cost of healthcare for those that need it most and can afford it the least.

As I said, the usually GOP nonsense.
 
Toxic ?

I so tell us just what the republican party platform would be if you could design it?

1. Raise the retirement age. We are living longer, we should be working longer. 6 percent of the US was over 65 when it was set as the retirement age in 1935. Today, 12 percent are over 65. We have literally doubled our entitlement load.

2. The insurance reforms outlined above in this topic, with the added goal of eliminating employer-provided health insurance. At the very least, making it so unattractive that it goes away by attrition.

3. Education, education, education. Train our children for the jobs of tomorrow. The days of growing up to work in the same tire making factory your daddy did are over. School vouchers. Empower principals to fire worthless teachers. Heavy emphasis on math and science.

4. Repeal CFMA of 2000 and FSMA of 1999 and start finanical reform from scratch, starting wtih outlawing naked CDS. Put some teeth in the SEC and send fraudsters to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for life to deter others.

5. Reform the tax code. Throw the whole book out, eliminating deductions and hidden tax breaks, and lower the corporate tax rate to 20 percent. Reform individual income tax as well, eliminating most deductions, if not all, and lower the tax rate. I seriously doubt I would succeed in eliminating the mortgage interest deduction, though. But if that remains, then there should be a credit card interest deduction. Fair is fair.

Basically, level the playing field, broaden the tax base, make the markets more competitive, and lower the tax rate.


6. Start making other countries pay for their own defense.

I could go along with some version(s) of 1,3,4,5 & 6. I do question why you want the government to force private companies to stop providing health insurance if they so desire?
 
The GOP plan is simple

Cut taxes

A huge tax cut will create an economic boom, more jobs, happier people and solve all of our problems
 
7. One other thing I would do that the Drooling Idiot faction will howl at is to change the federal laws to make gay marriage equal to hetero marriage. Same federal benefits. Taxes, Social Security benefits, inheritance, medical. The whole ball of wax.


I could go along with some version(s) of 1,3,4,5 & 6. I do question why you want the government to force private companies to stop providing health insurance if they so desire?

I would not force them to stop. I would make it unattractive to provide it. Perhaps by eliminating or lowering the tax exemption.

I have read enough material on the subject that I believe employer-provided health insurance contributes to bending the cost curve upward. To summarize, we are not a one-size-fits-all society.
 
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Yeah right, another phony who claims to have abandoned the republican party. The first thing you need to learn is that a political party cannot create private sector jobs. Only the private sector can create private sector jobs. The GOP encourages the climate for creating jobs by developing cheap energy, lower taxes and less regulations. The dirty little secret is that democrats have embraced socialism to such a degree that they they have convinced the true believers that confiscating money from one segment of society and giving it to another segment of society translates to job creation.
 
Yeah right, another phony who claims to have abandoned the republican party. The first thing you need to learn is that a political party cannot create private sector jobs. Only the private sector can create private sector jobs. The GOP encourages the climate for creating jobs by developing cheap energy, lower taxes and less regulations. The dirty little secret is that democrats have embraced socialism to such a degree that they they have convinced the true believers that confiscating money from one segment of society and giving it to another segment of society translates to job creation.

I believe the government constructs the legislative environment which is either conducive to, or inhibits, free enterprise.

The GOP has contributed to constructing a completely unlevel playing field. Not all by itself, mind you. It had a complicit partner in the Democratic Party.
 
Repeal state laws that regulate healthcare insurance to increase competition. You of course, know that the states can do that now and the federal government cannot.

This is a good point and one that I did not notice in that article.

States do enter into reciprocal agreements with neighboring states. The real barriers to buying your health insurance from any company anywhere are federal. Very good catch. Thank you.
 
The GOP plan is simple

Cut taxes

A huge tax cut will create an economic boom, more jobs, happier people and solve all of our problems

As usual....either intentional spin or proof you are completely naive to the GOP position on taxes. My guess is intentional spin.

the irony is this....the democrats paint the business owners as greedy....fine...then stick with that.

So when you stick with that...what woulkd make a greedy buysiness owner happy? A tax cut so he/she can store more money away with his acorns? I dont think so.

If greed motivates a business owner, then growth of his/her company is what he/she would want.

Now...what would help him/her grow it? More demand...yes...more capital....yes

What will help create more demand? More money ion the pockets of the consumer. How would they get that money? Tax cuts would most certainly help.


And when those tax cuts are translated to operating costs, what would they be able to do? Hire people...

Now...where do we get the money for tax cuts?

Will it be an economic boom? Immediately? No. Only an ass would say that. In time? No. Only the naive will say that.

But will uit create prosperity and jobs?

Only a dick would say no.
 
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I have not hear a single forward-looking idea out of any Republican or Democrat.

I am a born and bred conservative who voted the straight GOP ticket until 2006. At that point I became so disgusted with the raving lunatics who have kidnapped the Republican party that I stopped voting altogether, except to vote on local measures on my state's ballot.

I would like a reason to vote GOP again.

So tell us, Republicans, what is the plan to bend the health care cost curve down if/when ObamaCare is tossed on the dustbin of history? What's the GOP plan? Anyone?


How is the Republican Party going to create jobs? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about Iran? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the high price of oil? Anyone?


What is the GOP going to do about the rising cost of food? Anyone?


A hundred million voters want to know.


Stop obsessing over Obama's vacations and birth certificate and latest press conference and tell us what the plan going forward is.


Have I just stumped you? I bet I have.

The republican party plans to create jobs by lowering the expense of ALL businesses through the tax code by providing tax incentives to all businesses along with lowering the cost of doing business by getting rid of redundant regulations.
The democrat party plans to create jobs by providing tax incentives to specific businesses it deems of value (solyndra for example) over others along with by borrowing money to spend on government jobs.


The GOP hasn't really come out with a plan with Iran. I suspect that they will do what Bush and Obama have done, speak out publicly against them and work towards "sanctions" to stop it. I could possibly see the GOP giving Israel a lot more monetary/military/public comment support than the Dems in the area of Israel going after Iran...that is the only real difference in the parties with Iran.


The GOP plans to increase domestic production and refinement of oil to lower oil and gas prices. Even Obama agrees that doing this would lower prices even though he won't admit it, by saying he would open the strategic oil reserves to lower gas prices he proves he understands that increasing supply...be it from the reserves or from increased production....reduces the price of oil.


The GOP plans to end many of obamas policies such as low interest rates and printing money to pay our bills....both of these policies of obama's have added to inflation by reducing the value of the dollar.



I hope I've answered your questions. If you have any more please feel free to pose them to me.
 
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It's not about governing well anymore.
It's just about beating up on the other side.

It's why I left the Republican Party too. They used to have principals and ideas. Now they just have insults and lies.
 
What's The GOP Plan Going Forward?
Gearing-up (with fingers crossed) for 2024....'cause Dems OWN the Whitehouse, for the next 12!!!!!!

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The republican party plans to create jobs by lowering the expense of ALL businesses through the tax code by providing tax incentives to all businesses along with lowering the cost of doing business by getting rid of redundant regulations.

What are the tax incentives they plan on giving businesses? I am highly dubious of "incentives".



The GOP hasn't really come out with a plan with Iran. I suspect that they will do what Bush and Obama have done, speak out publicly against them and work towards "sanctions" to stop it. I could possibly see the GOP giving Israel a lot more monetary/military/public comment support than the Dems in the area of Israel going after Iran...that is the only real difference in the parties with Iran.

With respect to Iran, I suspect if the President was a Republican right now, his actions would be identical to Obama's.


The GOP plans to end many of obamas policies such as low interest rates and printing money to pay our bills....both of these policies of obama's have added to inflation by reducing the value of the dollar.

With respect to the Federal Reserve, I suspect if the President was a Republican right now, his actions would be identical to Obama's. The low interest rates are allowing the financial institutions to make astronomical carry trades to offset their subprime loan losses. There isn't a Republican politician alive who would alter that plan one whit, except Ron Paul, of course.

At the most, the only difference we might have seen is Jamie Dimon as Chairman of the Fed instead of Bernanke. Maybe.

I hope I've answered your questions. If you have any more please feel free to pose them to me.


I have heard zip from the GOP on what health reform package they have.
 
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The republican party plans to create jobs by lowering the expense of ALL businesses through the tax code by providing tax incentives to all businesses along with lowering the cost of doing business by getting rid of redundant regulations.

What are the tax incentives they plan on giving businesses? I am highly dubious of "incentives".



The GOP hasn't really come out with a plan with Iran. I suspect that they will do what Bush and Obama have done, speak out publicly against them and work towards "sanctions" to stop it. I could possibly see the GOP giving Israel a lot more monetary/military/public comment support than the Dems in the area of Israel going after Iran...that is the only real difference in the parties with Iran.

With respect to Iran, I suspect if the President was a Republican right now, his actions would be identical to Obama's.


The GOP plans to end many of obamas policies such as low interest rates and printing money to pay our bills....both of these policies of obama's have added to inflation by reducing the value of the dollar.

With respect to the Federal Reserve, I suspect if the President was a Republican right now, his actions would be identical to Obama's. The low interest rates are allowing the financial institutions to make astronomical carry trades to offset their subprime loan losses. There isn't a Republican politician alive who would alter that plan one whit, except Ron Paul, of course.

At the most, the only difference we might have seen is Jamie Dimon as Chairman of the Fed instead of Bernanke. Maybe.

I hope I've answered your questions. If you have any more please feel free to pose them to me.


I have heard zip from the GOP on what health reform package they have.

Sure you have...they are going to rework Medicare (eliminate it, see Ryan plan) and then tort reform should take care of all of the rest of it, right?
 

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