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Do you understand the difference between "encouraging" and "forcing"? If the First Lady would like to start an ad campaign discussing the value of healthy eating - something she apparently doesn't do much herself, by the way - similar to Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" ad campaign against drug use, then that's fine. THAT would be "encouraging". Strongarming and coercing restaurants to change their menus is something else entirely.
Might be nice if she led by example...
Nobody is perfect. However she seems fit to me. Why do you suggest she doesn't lead by example? A couple of hamburgers or large meals eaten in public? Or something more chronic? Or ... ?
If you need a liver transplant because you are a drunk you should have to pay for it.
If you need chemo because you got lung cancer from cigarets you should have to pay for it.
If you have diabetes because you sit on your ass all day eating doughnuts and playing X-box you should have to pay for it. That does not sound like universal health care to me, more like being responsible for your bad decisions, because in any of the cases above it would be that persons own damn fault.
It strikes me that you want to put all the consequences on one side.
Take your smoker. Doesnt' the tobacco company that lied to him about how dangerous they were, spiked the nicotine level to make it more addictive, and marketted the product to him when he was 13 hold just as much responsibility?
Now, I don't smoke. But every smoker I've ever talked to, I've asked them when they started smoking, and every last one of them told me when they were about 13. Why do you think that is?
Never met anyone who started smoking at 21 when they were capable of making an informed choice.
What is wrong with a First Lady ... or any other person of prominence ... encouraging healthy habits in children?
I've been having trouble with my fellow conservatives having trouble with this. Can someone set me straight on why I should be concerned?
Oppossition to Obama is based on 90% of hate and 10% of valid complaints of his mismanagement.
Once you understand that, it becomes pretty clear.
It's the same mentality that says, "Let's nominate a guy who is just as liberal as Obama because polls say he runs just a little better than the other guys. Screw principles."
Just so it's clear to you.
Oppossition to Obama is based on 90% of hate and 10% of valid complaints of his mismanagement.
And why again do people "hate" the Obama...Can you 'Splain it to us?
If you need a liver transplant because you are a drunk you should have to pay for it.
If you need chemo because you got lung cancer from cigarets you should have to pay for it.
If you have diabetes because you sit on your ass all day eating doughnuts and playing X-box you should have to pay for it. That does not sound like universal health care to me, more like being responsible for your bad decisions, because in any of the cases above it would be that persons own damn fault.
It strikes me that you want to put all the consequences on one side.
Take your smoker. Doesnt' the tobacco company that lied to him about how dangerous they were, spiked the nicotine level to make it more addictive, and marketted the product to him when he was 13 hold just as much responsibility?
Now, I don't smoke. But every smoker I've ever talked to, I've asked them when they started smoking, and every last one of them told me when they were about 13. Why do you think that is?
Never met anyone who started smoking at 21 when they were capable of making an informed choice.
No one put a gun in there ear and made them smoke. The fact that you turn green and cough is evidence enough that smoking is not good for you. I could be wrong, But I have childhood memories of health warning on packs of cigaret packs back in 82 ? Any way, to bad. medical issues related to smoking thees days are 100% the fault of smokers. That was hashed out in the 90's. Health issues related to fatness is 100% the fault of the fatsos. Oh, I was 20 when I started, quit on my last birthday.
What's wrong with Michelle Obama ....
She's an educated and opinionated black woman with wide hips living in the White House. Some people have a problem with that... I suspect if she looked like Halle Berry very little would be said...
If you need a liver transplant because you are a drunk you should have to pay for it.
If you need chemo because you got lung cancer from cigarets you should have to pay for it.
If you have diabetes because you sit on your ass all day eating doughnuts and playing X-box you should have to pay for it. That does not sound like universal health care to me, more like being responsible for your bad decisions, because in any of the cases above it would be that persons own damn fault.
It strikes me that you want to put all the consequences on one side.
Take your smoker. Doesnt' the tobacco company that lied to him about how dangerous they were, spiked the nicotine level to make it more addictive, and marketted the product to him when he was 13 hold just as much responsibility?
Now, I don't smoke. But every smoker I've ever talked to, I've asked them when they started smoking, and every last one of them told me when they were about 13. Why do you think that is?
Never met anyone who started smoking at 21 when they were capable of making an informed choice.
I started smoking when I was around 19 or 20 cause it was cool and a lot of my friends did. I only smoked for a couple of years; luckily it didn't "stick".
Numerous internal tobacco industry documents, revealed in the various tobacco lawsuits, show that the
tobacco companies have perceived kids as young as 13 years of age as a key market, studied the smoking habits of kids, and developed products and marketing campaigns aimed at them.4 As an RJR Tobacco document put it, Many manufacturers have studied the 14-20 market in hopes of uncovering the secret of the instant popularity some brands enjoy to the almost exclusion of others. . . . Creating a fad in this market can be a great bonanza.5 The following are just a few of the many more internal company quotes about marketing to kids:
No one put a gun in there ear and made them smoke. The fact that you turn green and cough is evidence enough that smoking is not good for you. I could be wrong, But I have childhood memories of health warning on packs of cigaret packs back in 82 ? Any way, to bad. medical issues related to smoking thees days are 100% the fault of smokers. That was hashed out in the 90's. Health issues related to fatness is 100% the fault of the fatsos. Oh, I was 20 when I started, quit on my last birthday.
So you want to absolve a company that sells addictive poison to children from all responsibility, eh?
As for obesity, it has just as much to do with genetics as lifestyle. There are people who can gorge themselves and never gain weight, and people who diet and still have weight issues. It probably doesn't help matters much that most of the food we eat is full of growth hormones and chemicals to make those animals slaughter worthy in half the time.
I have a problem with it when her "whims" effect MY diet.... Let ME decide what is good for and MY family!
Oh, and then there is this.....
Darden Restaurants the company that owns the Olive Garden, Red Lobster, LongHorn Steakhouse and others announced recently that it will cut the calorie footprint and sodium levels in its meals and create new kids menus to comply with the first ladys public health objectives.
Whats not mentioned is in return, that allows them to avoid some of the insurance mandates of ObamaCare.
Yep... its all about the "children"
I AM SICK OF THEM MEDDLING IN MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS!!!
Hmmm, no one even bothered responding to this. Interesting.
Why do folks object to her pet project? Because government gains more control over our choices.
Speaking at Monday's signing ceremony for the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act-- a law that will subsidize and regulate what children eat before school, at lunch, after school, and during summer vacations in federally funded school-based feeding programs -- First Lady Michelle Obama said of deciding what American children should eat: We cant just leave it up to the parents."
The law for the first time gives the federal government the authority to regulate the food sold at local schools, including in vending machines.
But when our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, and when many children get up to half their daily calories from school meals, its clear that we as a nation have a responsibility to meet as well, Mrs. Obama said. We cant just leave it up to the parents. I think that parents have a right to expect that their efforts at home wont be undone each day in the school cafeteria or in the vending machine in the hallway. I think that our parents have a right to expect that their kids will be served fresh,
healthy food that meets high nutritional standards.
Michelle Obama on Deciding What Kids Eat
So the government decides that parents can't be the sole deciders in what their kids eat . . and they use taxpayer money - to the tune of $4.5 billion over 10 years (and we all know that uncle always comes in on budget) - to fund their decision. And you guys want to know why people object to her 'pet project'.
You'd rather reserve the Government's right to serve kids SHIT with our tax dollars and call it lunch!?
You forgot to highlight the rest of that statement:
I think that parents have a right to expect that their efforts at home wont be undone each day in the school cafeteria or in the vending machine in the hallway. I think that our parents have a right to expect that their kids will be served fresh, healthy food that meets high nutritional standards
God forbid a parent say no.
Oppossition to Obama is based on 90% of hate and 10% of valid complaints of his mismanagement. .
Tobacco was settled in the 90's. And the genetics thing is BS. You can be fat and healthy. Notice the 300 lbs linemen on foot ball. The hormones and antibiotics is a good point, but the thing it people are eating shit like hot pockets and Doritos, and nothing green. They also dont move. If they eat that crap, its there fault. Educate the kids, and put recess back in school and fatness among kids will go down. Get them to eat some greens, and we stop a health epidemic in the future.
Its not Michelle Obama's business to tell us how we should eat. Michelle Obama wants to waste federal dollars promoting something that won't accomplish anything, and expands the role of government.
Other first ladies have had ambitious and worthwhile signature goals like Hillary- HC (even though I disagreed with her completely), Nancy Regan - say no to drugs, and Lara Bush- fighting to promote literacy.
If this is her goal, than she sucks at setting an example, not only by eating like a pig in public, but all the fating things on the menu in those white house dinners.
She's not exactly 'slim,' which is not such a shock for a woman her age, but when she declares herself the chief of the food and fitness police it's ... noticeable.
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Its not Michelle Obama's business to tell us how we should eat. Michelle Obama wants to waste federal dollars promoting something that won't accomplish anything, and expands the role of government.
Other first ladies have had ambitious and worthwhile signature goals like Hillary- HC (even though I disagreed with her completely), Nancy Regan - say no to drugs, and Lara Bush- fighting to promote literacy.
If this is her goal, than she sucks at setting an example, not only by eating like a pig in public, but all the fating things on the menu in those white house dinners.
Who is Laura Bush to tell you what to do? What does Nancy Reagan have to do with drugs?
They are American citizens and can support any issue they want
Tobacco was settled in the 90's. And the genetics thing is BS. You can be fat and healthy. Notice the 300 lbs linemen on foot ball. The hormones and antibiotics is a good point, but the thing it people are eating shit like hot pockets and Doritos, and nothing green. They also dont move. If they eat that crap, its there fault. Educate the kids, and put recess back in school and fatness among kids will go down. Get them to eat some greens, and we stop a health epidemic in the future.
When you say Tobacco was settled, you mean they stopped marketting to kids and stopped spiking their products? Or they just agreed to pay a big bribe to government that their customers ended up paying for?
Those 300 lb linemen are not healthy, they're just young. Back when I was younger (sigh), a 300 lb lineman like "Refrigerator" Perry was a freakish thing to see. Now they all are like that. What are they going to be when they are 40 and 50?
The rest, you seem to be agreeing with the first lady, so I'm not sure what your complaint is, exactly...
Tobacco was settled in the 90's. And the genetics thing is BS. You can be fat and healthy. Notice the 300 lbs linemen on foot ball. The hormones and antibiotics is a good point, but the thing it people are eating shit like hot pockets and Doritos, and nothing green. They also dont move. If they eat that crap, its there fault. Educate the kids, and put recess back in school and fatness among kids will go down. Get them to eat some greens, and we stop a health epidemic in the future.
When you say Tobacco was settled, you mean they stopped marketting to kids and stopped spiking their products? Or they just agreed to pay a big bribe to government that their customers ended up paying for?
Those 300 lb linemen are not healthy, they're just young. Back when I was younger (sigh), a 300 lb lineman like "Refrigerator" Perry was a freakish thing to see. Now they all are like that. What are they going to be when they are 40 and 50?
The rest, you seem to be agreeing with the first lady, so I'm not sure what your complaint is, exactly...
Tobacco was never marketed to kids. Kids just found Marlboro bucks and camel dollars cool. I dont see an issue with the first lady's thing. I do agree that this country's kids are stupid and fat. I do think that where federal dollars are spent feeding people that the government should control what if being fed to those people. I dont think tax payers or insurance companies should have to cover any condition that stems from peoples vices, like excessive eating, smoking, or heavy drinking and other such stupidity.
How about when cigarette ads were pulled from radio and television?When you say Tobacco was settled, you mean they stopped marketting to kids and stopped spiking their products? Or they just agreed to pay a big bribe to government that their customers ended up paying for?
Those 300 lb linemen are not healthy, they're just young. Back when I was younger (sigh), a 300 lb lineman like "Refrigerator" Perry was a freakish thing to see. Now they all are like that. What are they going to be when they are 40 and 50?
The rest, you seem to be agreeing with the first lady, so I'm not sure what your complaint is, exactly...
Tobacco was never marketed to kids. Kids just found Marlboro bucks and camel dollars cool. I dont see an issue with the first lady's thing. I do agree that this country's kids are stupid and fat. I do think that where federal dollars are spent feeding people that the government should control what if being fed to those people. I dont think tax payers or insurance companies should have to cover any condition that stems from peoples vices, like excessive eating, smoking, or heavy drinking and other such stupidity.
Tobacco was subliminally marketed to kids:
In my youth all the heroes and heroines of the movies smoked. I don't recall the exact year, but that practice was curtailed in movies intended to appeal to children and teens.
When you say Tobacco was settled, you mean they stopped marketting to kids and stopped spiking their products? Or they just agreed to pay a big bribe to government that their customers ended up paying for?
Those 300 lb linemen are not healthy, they're just young. Back when I was younger (sigh), a 300 lb lineman like "Refrigerator" Perry was a freakish thing to see. Now they all are like that. What are they going to be when they are 40 and 50?
The rest, you seem to be agreeing with the first lady, so I'm not sure what your complaint is, exactly...
Tobacco was never marketed to kids. Kids just found Marlboro bucks and camel dollars cool. I dont see an issue with the first lady's thing. I do agree that this country's kids are stupid and fat. I do think that where federal dollars are spent feeding people that the government should control what if being fed to those people. I dont think tax payers or insurance companies should have to cover any condition that stems from peoples vices, like excessive eating, smoking, or heavy drinking and other such stupidity.
Tobacco was subliminally marketed to kids:
In my youth all the heroes and heroines of the movies smoked. I don't recall the exact year, but that practice was curtailed in movies intended to appeal to children and teens.
