When republicans complain about single moms getting food stamps, why don’t they consider the well-being of the child?

Mental illness does not drive people to the streets. They get wacky by being out there.
Drug addiction and alcoholism may be a reason but not an excuse.

People become homeless for different reasons, including PTSD, bipolarism, and other mental conditions. I've personally met people who were psychologically ill from their youth or/and mentally handicapped who were homeless and weren't using drugs. I work with a non-profit that serves the homeless here in NYC. There are all types of people who are homeless, you'd be surprised. Whole families that are homeless, and the parents don't use drugs.
 
Any able bodied adults on SNAP is definitely only getting peanuts. We are talking like $100 per month. To even qualify, their income would have to be close to nothing. Because this is based on income, it wouldn’t be accurate to take 13% of 80 billion.
I dont know exactly how it works. Either way saying SNAP is not an expensive program is stretching the truth a bit.
 
Let's read the bible Christians claim to follow:

Deuteronomy 15:7-11​

7 “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. 9 Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the LORD against you, and you be guilty of sin. 10 You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. 11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

A "brother" is a fellow Israelite, and "the land" is ancient Israel. Your compatriots, your fellow Americans, your comrades, you must feed and house them when they're in need. It's not your place or job to judge and condemn them, presuming that they did something wrong, because you don't know the circumstances of their lives. Why are they in that condition? You don't know. You can guess and condemn them, but that won't resolve the problem.

Leviticus 19:9-10

9 “When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. 10 And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the LORD your God.

Proverbs 14:21​

21 Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner,
but blessed is he who is generous to the poor.

Proverbs 19:17​

17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD,
and he will repay him for his deed.

Proverbs 28:27​

27 Whoever gives to the poor will not want,
but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

Jeremiah 29:7​

7 But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.


Lev_23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them for the poor, and for the soujourner: I am Jehovah your God.

Lev_25:35 And if thy brother be waxed poor, and his hand fail with thee; then thou shalt uphold him: as a stranger and a sojourner shall he live with thee.

Deu_15:4 Howbeit there shall be no poor with thee (for Jehovah will surely bless thee in the land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it),

Deu_15:7 If there be with thee a poor man, one of thy brethren, within any of thy gates in thy land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thy heart, nor shut thy hand from thy poor brother;


Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall be thy rearward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;
Isa 58:10 and if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul: then shall thy light rise in darkness, and thine obscurity be as the noonday;
Isa 58:11 and Jehovah will guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in dry places, and make strong thy bones; and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

Isa 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

YHWH wants to house the homeless, feed them, and lift them up from the pit of hell. Our fellow Americans, our compatriots, our brothers, and sisters, must not be abandoned!







That could be your daughter, sister, son, or brother. Do you want people judging and condemning them because they didn't meet someone's arbitrary, self-righteous standard of who constitutes someone worthy of being housed and fed? No, you want someone to reach out and lift them up from that hell. If the "born again" and "spirit-filled" Christians don't do it, we Marxists, Socialists, will do it. According to your bible, YHWH will use anyone that is willing to serve. Even an Atheist, communist wretch like me. That's how concerned YHWH is for the poor. He'll even use communists, to your shame. The supposed disciples of Jesus refuse to obey their master:


Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.


I was a stranger, and you took me not in, says Jesus. You didn't open your door for me, housing me in your home.

I personally, don't have enough love in my heart to house the homeless here in my home. I don't have enough compassion to do that. Government is a social apparatus organized by the people to manage their LARGE SCALE socioeconomic, civil affairs, and projects. Government isn't inherently good, it's not inherently evil, it's whatever we want it to be. Our society, our nation, should recognize that food, housing, healthcare, education, and a job are essential human rights. According to your bible, the poor have rights:


Psa_140:12 I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor.

Amo_5:12 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.


Back then he was talking about people that had no ability to help themselves. I believe we should. Unfortunately government is involved in all this and they pass out "help" like candy to anybody that wants it regardless of their ability to take care of themselves or make responsible decisions.

Proverbs 10:4

Lazy hands make for poverty, but diligent hands bring wealth.

Proverbs 10:5


He who gathers crops in summer is a prudent son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son.

Proverbs 12:11


Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense.

2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

2 Thessalonians 3:11-12


For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.
 
People become homeless for different reasons, including PTSD, bipolarism, and other mental conditions. I've personally met people who were psychologically ill from their youth or/and mentally handicapped who were homeless and weren't using drugs. I work with a non-profit that serves the homeless here in NYC. There are all types of people who are homeless, you'd be surprised. Whole families that are homeless, and the parents don't use drugs.
It’s just so coincidental that you now assert that you are “in this line of work” concerning an activity that does not exist the way you describe it and your answer is in communism.
 
Any able bodied adults on SNAP is definitely only getting peanuts. We are talking like $100 per month. To even qualify, their income would have to be close to nothing. Because this is based on income, it wouldn’t be accurate to take 13% of 80 billion.

250 is the benefit for a single household receiving SNAP. Assuming that's what most are getting (I didnt see a graduated scale) the 2.4 million able bodied people on the program account for 7.2 billion dollars.
 
Back then he was talking about people that had no ability to help themselves. I believe we should. Unfortunately government is involved in all this and they pass out "help" like candy to anybody that wants it regardless of their ability to take care of themselves or make responsible decisions.

Proverbs 10:4

Lazy hands make for poverty, but diligent hands bring wealth.

Proverbs 10:5


He who gathers crops in summer is a prudent son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son.

Proverbs 12:11


Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense.

2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

2 Thessalonians 3:11-12


For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.
Yes, I agree. People must work, if they can. Ever tried to find employment when you're homeless or living in a shelter? I know how it is, I used to be homeless, when I was younger. People need the basics, a foundation, upon which to build their lives. If you abandon them, it will only make everyone's life worse. The VA saved my life, and now 18 years later, I'm a completely different person. I'm been clean and sober since 2003. I got the help I needed from the VA.
 
No one is independent, you're just suffering from a state of delusion. We are all interdependent, living in human society with others. You can pretend that abandoning the homeless isn't going to affect you, but it will. It's much more expensive to ignore the homeless and impoverished than to house them, providing them with the resources they need to get back on their feet and become contributing, productive members of society.
If it were only that easy.
 
And voluntary.

People who think they can be fixed are actually worse than the homeless

These people have places to go setup by various religions and the county. However they come with strict rules like no smoking, drug or alcohol use. That's one of the reasons they choose living in the street vs a roof of any kind over their head.
 
Yes, I agree. People must work, if they can. Ever tried to find employment when you're homeless or living in a shelter? I know how it is, I used to be homeless, when I was younger. People need the basics, a foundation, upon which to build their lives. If you abandon them, it will only make everyone's life worse. The VA saved my life, and now 18 years later, I'm a completely different person. I'm been clean and sober since 2003. I got the help I needed from the VA.
it's really quite simple, but demofks don't want it. That is, forcing work on those who receive federal dollars. Clean streets, clean sewers, patch roads, deliver pizza's. There's always a way. Can't just pooh pooh something because.
 
No one is independent, you're just suffering from a state of delusion. We are all interdependent, living in human society with others. You can pretend that abandoning the homeless isn't going to affect you, but it will. It's much more expensive to ignore the homeless and impoverished than to house them, providing them with the resources they need to get back on their feet and become contributing, productive members of society.
except that many of us choose to adapt to the society and do what is needed. Not be lazy taking drugs and gambling all day.

You completely move the onus off the lazy homeless fks and blame those doing the work. Ain't you nice?
 
These people have places to go setup by various religions and the county. However they come with strict rules like no smoking, drug or alcohol use. That's one of the reasons they choose living in the street vs a roof of any kind over their head.
Yes sir, they won't adapt to society. Just like I said in my last post.
 
it's really quite simple, but demofks don't want it. That is, forcing work on those who receive federal dollars. Clean streets, clean sewers, patch roads, deliver pizza's. There's always a way. Can't just pooh pooh something because.

Years ago they tried a program having people work for their welfare. It was short lived because the government unions copped a bitch about it claiming these people were taking work away from them.
 
Yes, I agree. People must work, if they can. Ever tried to find employment when you're homeless or living in a shelter? I know how it is, I used to be homeless, when I was younger. People need the basics, a foundation, upon which to build their lives. If you abandon them, it will only make everyone's life worse. The VA saved my life, and now 18 years later, I'm a completely different person. I'm been clean and sober since 2003. I got the help I needed from the VA.

And I think that's great but you had the abilities to advance yourself where others do not no matter what you give them.

We had the same idea with the projects. Give low income people brand new apartments to live in. They were destroyed in 10 years. Rats and roaches, hallways that had a strong smell of urine. graffiti on the inside and outside of the buildings. It's like a nightmare.
 
Maybe his wife divorced him, out of the blue, because she just got board. He was a good provider, good father, he treated his wife well, but she nonetheless, got board and felt she needed to move on with her life. He loses his kids, house, thousands of dollars. He loved spending time with his children, every day. He was a great dad. She divorces him and moves from South Florida to Seattle, with his kids. Horrible. He starts drinking, hanging out at the bar, with the wrong crowd. Ends up destroying his life, because he lost his will to live, without his family, his wife, and children.

Bill served three tours in Afghanistan, two in Iraq. PTSD, and a host of other conditions and he comes back and starts drinking to numb the pain. He has sleeping problems, gets hooked on benzos because they help him sleep. He ends up homeless.

Betty was an unwanted child, raised in foster care, and by the time she was 12 she had been in 30 different foster homes. She suffered sexual abuse by one of her "foster brothers", and also by an old man that ran one of the foster homes. She's emotionally disturbed, starts doing drugs, gets released from foster care at 18 and ends up out in the street. Take a look at the post I posted a few posts back, with all of those videos of former foster care children, who are now homeless.

Tyrone was born and raised in the inner city, his mother was a crack junkie prostitute. I'll leave it up to your imagination what type of life Tyrone lived and he ends up homeless on drugs. You simply don't know.

When I was homeless, I stayed at the Borden Ave Veterans Shelter in Long Island City Queens, and I met a former Naval captain, who captained a destroyer, in the 1960s. All types of people are homeless, even you or someone you care about might become homeless. You don't know what has happened in their lives. Abandoning them leads to more problems for everyone, it's more expensive than housing them and providing them with a foundation upon which to rebuild their lives.
 
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No one in their right mind chooses to be homeless, sleeping on the sidewalk.
Wrong. Some do. I've seen interviews of people who said exactly that.

The circumstances of life, a crisis, can result in poverty or even being homeless. It can even happen to you and it's easier said than done to get out of that condition.

Most people who aren't totally worthless bums will get off their buts and improve their situation.
 
Tyrone was born and raised in the inner city, his mother was a crack junkie prostitute. I'll leave it up to your imagination what type of life Tyrone lived and he ends up homeless on drugs. You simply don't know
Go to family, father? There’s an out foster care as well. You merely make excuses
 
And I think that's great but you had the abilities to advance yourself where others do not no matter what you give them.

We had the same idea with the projects. Give low income people brand new apartments to live in. They were destroyed in 10 years. Rats and roaches, hallways that had a strong smell of urine. graffiti on the inside and outside of the buildings. It's like a nightmare.

I know that's why we need tough love. Drug dealing should be a capital crime. These dealers are poisoning communities and murdering people. Execute the dealers, decriminalize the addicts, not burdening them with a criminal record, but forcing them into rehab or the psych ward. The sidewalks and streets are not an option. I would say "You either get your life together, or you will spend the rest of your life in an insane asylum. Sleeping out rough, on the sidewalk or streets is not an option. That's illegal and if you do it, when we are offering you clean, modern housing, with amenities, then you're insane. You need to be committed to a psych ward, until you decide to straighten up and stop hurting yourself and others". That's tough love. That's what they need. Housing with some support, programs, or the loony bin. Choose.
 

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