When the parties were separated by the little things, were we a nation divided?

[Darkwind]

Before homosexuality was shoved down our throats, before Dems sided with the invaders from our south, before the tranny movement, BLM, the strive toward socialism...etc etc
Isn't it obvious which party has caused the divide....isn't it the fault of the 'progress' with us or else party.....The sit there quietly while we fundamentally transform your nation party?

You realize we once fought a civil war and senators used to be each other with canes

Yeah but you hate the past...right?
You hate when we compare the past to the present...remember?
Let’s talk about modern times...you know like you usually insist on doing.

I don't hate the past

I just don't hold it up like it was some golden age when we were jokes on the world stage

American greatness and modern america go together

We were not so great 100 years ago much less 200

And as a liberal I certainly know our history better than your average conservative....We went to college bound courses and had to take gen eds

You are wrong there. We've been great since our founding.

We weren't even great next to mexico until we beat them in a war bud

No one thought we could win teh first mexican american war.

And mexico wasn't exactly a global power at the time.

The Europeans laughed at us up until ww2. Then they became scared of us

Because that's when we became great in every sense of the word

Here is a hint for you.

Greatness is NOT determined by how many wars you've won, or how large your army is. Getting the idea?

Consider what the world looked like in the late 18th century. Then consider what we wrought in terms of personal freedoms.

As I said. We've been great since our inception.

 

[irosie91]

Before homosexuality was shoved down our throats, before Dems sided with the invaders from our south, before the tranny movement, BLM, the strive toward socialism...etc etc
Isn't it obvious which party has caused the divide....isn't it the fault of the 'progress' with us or else party.....The sit there quietly while we fundamentally transform your nation party?

You realize we once fought a civil war and senators used to be each other with canes

Yeah but you hate the past...right?
You hate when we compare the past to the present...remember?
Let’s talk about modern times...you know like you usually insist on doing.

I don't hate the past

I just don't hold it up like it was some golden age when we were jokes on the world stage

American greatness and modern america go together

We were not so great 100 years ago much less 200

And as a liberal I certainly know our history better than your average conservative....We went to college bound courses and had to take gen eds

You are wrong there. We've been great since our founding.

We weren't even great next to mexico until we beat them in a war bud

No one thought we could win teh first mexican american war.

And mexico wasn't exactly a global power at the time.

The Europeans laughed at us up until ww2. Then they became scared of us

Because that's when we became great in every sense of the word

I was ALWAYS great

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Before homosexuality was shoved down our throats, before Dems sided with the invaders from our south, before the tranny movement, BLM, the strive toward socialism...etc etc
Isn't it obvious which party has caused the divide....isn't it the fault of the 'progress' with us or else party.....The sit there quietly while we fundamentally transform your nation party?

You realize we once fought a civil war and senators used to be each other with canes

Yeah but you hate the past...right?
You hate when we compare the past to the present...remember?
Let’s talk about modern times...you know like you usually insist on doing.

I don't hate the past

I just don't hold it up like it was some golden age when we were jokes on the world stage

American greatness and modern america go together

We were not so great 100 years ago much less 200

And as a liberal I certainly know our history better than your average conservative....We went to college bound courses and had to take gen eds

Hahaha....you are no Liberal, you’re a Leftist.
Everybody sane knows the foundation of this nation was built by horrible whitey from 1776-1950...sucks for you huh?
By the 1950’s America was the greatest nation the world had ever known. Sucks for you huh?
Why do you super smart Libs always under achieve financially?

We were a joke until 1940

And I'm a social liberal, much more liberal than anyone conservative not calling themselves a libertarian

And they under achieve because happiness caps out at ~70k a year. It's pointless to go farther. Conservatives would know that if they had access to academic journals.

We've always been a little divided. It wasn't until Al Gore was defeated did the divide become an active war. The left intentionally divides us and then points their finger at us as the culprit.

Which is just an old Saul Alinsky tactic.

Bush was just as guilty of dividing the nation. He used the terror attacks to force half the nation into the 'you are with us or against us' mentality and that devastated politics in general. Obama inflamed it even more.

I’ve never heard that perspective...I’ve always heard that 9-11 and the events that followed brought Americans closer.

there is a conspiracy theory amongst the depraved that the event of 9-11-01 was CREATED by Bush as an excuse to go to war. Of course there was another which was promulgated by the islamo nazi world wide wing that it was done by MOSSAD. At that point muslims decided to redefine themselves as "PERSONS OF COLOR". <<<< that was the beginning of world-wide division and the womb in which "blm" developed and is spreading like an aggressive cancer

Arabs were never whtie under American law, what the fuck are you talking about?

Contrary to popular belief, being white isn't the same as being caucasian

Caucasians come in a wide variety of skin tones. Whites do not

Oh----I did not know that "arabs" (how-evah you define that term) are not white "according to
"american law" ----please cite the "LAW" that excludes "arabs" from being "white". For that matter----Please define "arab"

United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here is where the precedent that being Caucasian doesn't make you white

*mind blown*

Most white Americans didn't consider Italians white at that time lol

try again -----you cited "AMERICAN LAW"----not what your fellow redneck drunken pig "THINKS"

Do you not understand how American law works? lol. That relates to every statute on the books we had that involved being white. Which was a lot of them.

The supreme court of the united states decided that case. That is the law until differently interpreted by the same body or congress writes a new law that affects the reading.

Under American law Arabs are not white

Under the civil rights act that's a distinction that doesn't matter

What the fuck is wrong with you? I know this because I'm brown hahaha

Who the fuck is a red neck here?

oh----you are "brown" Is that another LEGAL DESIGNATION in the USA in your depraved mind?
I asked you a very simple question----can you CITE THE LAW ON THE BOOKS regarding a definition of "arab" as "non-white" in american LAW? That is AMERICAN LAW-----not british colonial law----
AMERICAN LAW---USA--FEDERAL LAW. EASY
query. You need a TIME----before the civil rights thing-------how about 1960?

poor JUICE is stymied

Mac1958 is even worse makes a claim but runs like a little bitch when called out

This is why you kids love Trump so much. He acts and talks just like you do.

Finally someone who doesn't make you "feel" inferior, huh?

Mac1958 said
The hardcore Left wants far too much. So do the Trumpsters. So, I'd like to get rid of Trump and then work on the Left.

I question him
"so what is it that "Trumpers" want?"

If only you far right extremists would just get with the times. Just accept that transgender homo strip tease hour is an essential part of elementary school curriculum, accept that it should be illegal to arrest, detain or otherwise inconvenience black people for any reason, accept that mass immigration of millions of uneducated, unvaccinated mexicans every year makes our country, healthier, wealthier and less divided....If you would only accept these simple demands then we on the left could provide you with healthcare and all sorts of other goodies...free of charge!

But no, you'd rather be racist.

As I read your cleverly worded post I can’t help but think of Mac1958

Not everyone is stuck in simplistic, shallow, binary thinking patterns.

True story. Really.

Those words sounds neat, makes you sound super smart...BUT what does that mean?
The deeper you think the more sense you’re able to make out of nonsensical, irrational bullshit?

It just means that some of us realize that life is not black or white, and some of us don't. Or can't.

There doesn't appear to be anything I can do about that, so I don't worry about it.

Maybe you could adopt the same philosophy.

Mac, not all of us are fascinated by complexity. We don’t care to spin simple things into something confusing.
I’m sure there’s weirdos out there willing to pretend to be confused by how/why some 50 year old men prefer little boys....NO THANKS!
The ole make it complex so we can pretend there’s no solution bit is what Libs do.
True problem solvers see everything as something simple.
Look, you Libs seek to change and “fundamentally transform” America and we either comply or you scream “DIVISION” at the sky.
Come on man...be smart on this one.

I see a wide range of grey in between black & white. Voting one way doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they want.

The hardcore Left wants far too much. So do the Trumpsters. So, I'd like to get rid of Trump and then work on the Left.

This is not an either/or thing for me. I don't like either whacked-out end.

Dude so what is it that "Trumpers" want?
Don't give your opinion unless you're willing to back up your insinuations

I neither need, nor care about, your approval.

Pussy makes a claim then when called on it runs like my bitch that you are.

What are you, ten?

7 year olds make up shit but when you question them they try to evade your question
so what is it that "Trumpers" want?

You need ME to tell YOU what you want?

You don't even know what your own stands on the issues are?

Or are you just so smitten by your strongman in the WH that you'll go along with anything he says?

No, you need to point out what Trumpers want. The list you make should be long since you claim we want a lot or as much as liberals do.

Why? You're just a Trumpster. Your opinion has no value to me, outside of its value as a fascinating psychological / sociological / anthropological study.

No dumbass you made a wild ass claim you need to back it up
So what is it all that trumpers want.

 

[Mac1958]

So what is it all that trumpers want.

They want an emotional, hyper-sensitive, flamboyant, arrogant, pugilistic, punitive, vengeful, childish, divisive, damaged, nationalist strongman to adore with their heart and soul. One who refuses to take responsibility for anything bad, yet demands credit for anything good.

Poof! There you go! Ya got him!

 

[irosie91]

So what is it all that trumpers want.

They want an emotional, hyper-sensitive, flamboyant, arrogant, pugilistic, punitive, vengeful, childish, divisive, damaged, nationalist strongman to adore with their heart and soul. One who refuses to take responsibility for anything bad, yet demands credit for anything good.

Poof! There you go! Ya got him!

^^^^^^bullshit alert

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So what is it all that trumpers want.

They want an emotional, hyper-sensitive, flamboyant, arrogant, pugilistic, punitive, vengeful, childish, divisive, damaged, nationalist strongman to adore with their heart and soul. One who refuses to take responsibility for anything bad, yet demands credit for anything good.

Poof! There you go! Ya got him!

what the fuck are you talking about
we are not gauging how you view things we are gauging things on what Trumpers want.
Now put up or shut the fuck up and stop lying.

 

[Mac1958]

So what is it all that trumpers want.

They want an emotional, hyper-sensitive, flamboyant, arrogant, pugilistic, punitive, vengeful, childish, divisive, damaged, nationalist strongman to adore with their heart and soul. One who refuses to take responsibility for anything bad, yet demands credit for anything good.

Poof! There you go! Ya got him!

what the fuck are you talking about
we are not gauging how you view things we are gauging things on what Trumpers want.
Now put up or shut the fuck up and stop lying.

I told you.

Get a grip. This is getting creepy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So what is it all that trumpers want.

They want an emotional, hyper-sensitive, flamboyant, arrogant, pugilistic, punitive, vengeful, childish, divisive, damaged, nationalist strongman to adore with their heart and soul. One who refuses to take responsibility for anything bad, yet demands credit for anything good.

Poof! There you go! Ya got him!

what the fuck are you talking about
we are not gauging how you view things we are gauging things on what Trumpers want.
Now put up or shut the fuck up and stop lying.

I told you.

Get a grip. This is getting creepy.

well chump that is not what trumpers want
We want nothing from the government that isn't already ours
Right to self-defense
right to live our lives without interference from the government
the right not to be forced to violate our rights.

 

[Agit8r]

Yeah, when Reagan gave undocumented immigrants amnesty, we were not as divided of a country

 

[Marion Morrison]

If only you far right extremists would just get with the times. Just accept that transgender homo strip tease hour is an essential part of elementary school curriculum, accept that it should be illegal to arrest, detain or otherwise inconvenience black people for any reason, accept that mass immigration of millions of uneducated, unvaccinated mexicans every year makes our country, healthier, wealthier and less divided....If you would only accept these simple demands then we on the left could provide you with healthcare and all sorts of other goodies...free of charge!

But no, you'd rather be racist.

Hang all of those degenerates, fuck that! By the neck until dead.
Not trying to torture people, so make it a medium drop where it breaks their neck.

 

[Kilroy2]

Yeah the civil war was just a little disagreement over succession

The disagreement over the Vietnam war was just kids being kids

Roe VS Wade decision was just fine with the right

The question is when was the US every united. Maybe WW2 until they dropped the nuclear bomb.

Still the Constitution decided division of power was necessary. The division of states vs the federal government. Separation of powers in the 3 branches.

The fighting over the wording of the Constitution. Yet what got it done was compromise.

Something that is lost due to the current regime in power. The president does not know how to compromise. He has taken the mantle of the right wing extremism and used it as a pulpit to preach to the red choir. Ohh you know (all) democrats are bad. Let make stuff up to support that notion. The crowd goes into a frenzy.

There will always be disagreement as it is a strong emotion but compromise takes rational thinking.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yeah the civil war was just a little disagreement over succession

The disagreement over the Vietnam war was just kids being kids

Roe VS Wade decision was just fine with the right

The question is when was the US every united. Maybe WW2 until they dropped the nuclear bomb.

Still the Constitution decided division of power was necessary. The division of states vs the federal government. Separation of powers in the 3 branches.

The fighting over the wording of the Constitution. Yet what got it done was compromise.

Something that is lost due to the current regime in power. The president does not know how to compromise. He has taken the mantle of the right wing extremism and used it as a pulpit to preach to the red choir. Ohh you know (all) democrats are bad. Let make stuff up to support that notion. The crowd goes into a frenzy.

There will always be disagreement as it is a strong emotion but compromise takes rational thinking.

That’s an awful lot of typing…You make no sense.
Are you Lefties now telling us that division is good and necessary?

 

[Kilroy2]

Yeah the civil war was just a little disagreement over succession

The disagreement over the Vietnam war was just kids being kids

Roe VS Wade decision was just fine with the right

The question is when was the US every united. Maybe WW2 until they dropped the nuclear bomb.

Still the Constitution decided division of power was necessary. The division of states vs the federal government. Separation of powers in the 3 branches.

The fighting over the wording of the Constitution. Yet what got it done was compromise.

Something that is lost due to the current regime in power. The president does not know how to compromise. He has taken the mantle of the right wing extremism and used it as a pulpit to preach to the red choir. Ohh you know (all) democrats are bad. Let make stuff up to support that notion. The crowd goes into a frenzy.

There will always be disagreement as it is a strong emotion but compromise takes rational thinking.

Yeah the civil war was just a little disagreement over succession

The disagreement over the Vietnam war was just kids being kids

Roe VS Wade decision was just fine with the right

The question is when was the US every united. Maybe WW2 until they dropped the nuclear bomb.

Still the Constitution decided division of power was necessary. The division of states vs the federal government. Separation of powers in the 3 branches.

The fighting over the wording of the Constitution. Yet what got it done was compromise.

Something that is lost due to the current regime in power. The president does not know how to compromise. He has taken the mantle of the right wing extremism and used it as a pulpit to preach to the red choir. Ohh you know (all) democrats are bad. Let make stuff up to support that notion. The crowd goes into a frenzy.

There will always be disagreement as it is a strong emotion but compromise takes rational thinking.

That’s an awful lot of typing…You make no sense.
Are you Lefties now telling us that division is good and necessary?

see you do get it. History shows that there has always been division even from the beginning. I am saying that in the absence of compromise then there is always division.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Like this: "I'm a Republican (or a Democrat, or whatever), but if elected, I vow to represent the interests of all my constituents, not simply those of my party. That means I won't sign major legislation unless it has broad support. I won't sign anything passed on a pure partisan majority, regardless of which "side" it is.

That means we're not going to pass laws, or implement policy, unless there's agreement, on all sides, that it's a good idea. The government is not your tool for fighting the culture war. It's here to ensure we can all get along peacefully, not to serve as a weapon to beat up on people you don't like."

What makes you think one can govern for all in a nation as diverse as America?
We The People are fully engaged in ideological warfare….one side wants America just the way it’s always been and one side wants a whole new America and they want the books burned.

Our diversity is destroying us at our core and theres no turning back now. Core Americans must die off to allow for the new constitutionally ignorant American recruited from Mexico to start anew.

 

[dblack]

What makes you think one can govern for all in a nation as diverse as America?

We managed it for a couple hundred years. The problem now is that government has become too powerful and has far too much impact on our lives.

In a diverse society, live and let live is the only thing that works. We've forgotten that.

We The People are fully engaged in ideological warfare…

Lol.. you don't have an ideology. Neither does Trump. You have a desire to control others. That's about as complicated as "ideology" gets these days.

.
Our diversity is destroying us at our core

Our diversity has always been one of our great strengths. It's why the rest of the world loved us. We took pride in it.

And chickenshits like you are pissing it away 'cause brown people make you nervous.

 

[BrokeLoser]

We managed it for a couple hundred years. The problem now is that government has become too powerful and has far too much impact on our lives.

In a diverse society, live and let live is the only thing that works. We've forgotten that.

Hahaha…You are so fucking lost and confused. That live and let live bullshit went out the window the day you FORCED me take an equity share in Shaquita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth.
Never in our history was 10% percent of our population comprised of illegal aliens.
Never in our history have we had chicks with dicks making demands.
Never in our history have we tore down monuments of key figures to our past.
Never in our history have ‘Americans’ denounced Christianity like they do now.
Never in our history have we had ‘Americans’ show such disdain for our value systems, history, culture and traditions.

Lol.. you don't have an ideology. Neither does Trump. You have a desire to control others. That's about as complicated as "ideology" gets these days.

All decent human beings and civilized first world societies have a predetermined standard to be met and an expectation for their fellow countrymen…you anything goes folks hate that shit.

Our diversity has always been one of our great strengths. It's why the rest of the world loved us. We took pride in it.

And chickenshits like you are pissing it away 'cause brown people make you nervous.

NEGATIVE….the world has never loved us….opportunists and beggars have always loved us.
Why don’t unknown, illegal trespassers by the tens of millions “make you nervous”….what the fuck is wrong with you?