Where are the threads on Cohen secretly visiting Prague?

[bripat9643]

My thread was closed and I was told there were 5 or 6 of the threads that stated....Mueller has evidence Cohen made secret trip to Prague through Germany to prevent his passport from being stamped. Just asking....WHERE ARE THEY?

Cohen under criminal investigation DOJ

4-5 threads merged into that one

All the RWers have been hanging their hat on Cohen not going to Prague. If that was a lie...this needs to be a separate thread.

Sorry, douchbag, but that hasn't been established yet.

Sounds like Mueller has it chief. And if he does....Cohen will either go away for the rest if his life or he will flip on his Orange King.

Your trust in Mewler is charming, if not rational.

You know what's funny? You take this petty jab, as if you have superior intelligence. But you're too ignorant to know that you just put your support behind Mueller.

I did no such thing. Snowflake threads are nothing but a continuous series of ad hominems, lies and petty jabs. They are fact and logic free.

 

[bripat9643]

he visited Prague?? !!
really??!! OMG !! someone visited Prague !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump and Trumpsters used the excuse that Cohen never went to Prague, for the past year plus, to discredit the Steele Dossier....which had 3 entries on the meeting with Cohen and the Russian government lawyers.

Now we KNOW, that this was an intentional, bold face LIE, a lie intentionally meant to Deceive and discredit the dossier, and cover up the Trump team's direct connections with the Russians and interference in the election....collusion, if it does turn out to be true.

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

Then where is the proof he went to Prague?

They keep responding with their standby answer: Herr OberGruppenFuhrer Mewler will reveal it when his snipe hunt is over.

 

[deltex1]

My thread was closed and I was told there were 5 or 6 of the threads that stated....Mueller has evidence Cohen made secret trip to Prague through Germany to prevent his passport from being stamped. Just asking....WHERE ARE THEY?

They're in the same place as the threads showing you visiting gay bars....

 

[bripat9643]

he visited Prague?? !!
really??!! OMG !! someone visited Prague !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump and Trumpsters used the excuse that Cohen never went to Prague, for the past year plus, to discredit the Steele Dossier....which had 3 entries on the meeting with Cohen and the Russian government lawyers.

Now we KNOW, that this was an intentional, bold face LIE, a lie intentionally meant to Deceive and discredit the dossier, and cover up the Trump team's direct connections with the Russians and interference in the election....collusion, if it does turn out to be true.

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

We don't know it's a lie. No one has seen this mysterious evidence the Herr Mewler claims to have. That fantasy meeting isn't the only thing that discredits the "dossier." Comey admitted that nothing in it was verified.

 

[JimH52]

Holding out for Treason...

Use of pardon power to end Mueller investigation could be treason

I think the penalty is death....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's look at what the dossier informants say about the meeting with Cohen in Prague and how it relates to COLLUSION.....I posted this earlier but with the threads and posts all merged you all may have missed it.....

-- it claims Cohen went there after Manafort quit, due to his UkrainRussia past dealings, to try to cover up this Russian connection

--and to cover up paying the hackers for stealing the DNC and Podesta emails, so there is no trace of Trump and Russia.

--Which we are learning now that this was Cohen's full time job for President trump....to pay off people to keep silent and cover it up through creating fake LLC's with fake names etc, to make their payments....

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

What the Steele dossier alleged about Michael Cohen visiting Prague
The Steele dossier, you will remember, was a months-long research project in which former MI-6 agent Christopher Steele dug into Donald Trump’s connections to Russia. Steele was paid by the firm Fusion GPS, which was paid by a lawyer for the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

The dossier, as publicly released, is a series of 17 reports written over six months, based on a plethora of sources, that allege deep and corrupt ties between Trump and Russian officials.

Cohen emerges as a major character in the final set of reports. In one dated October 19, 2016, Steele wrote (emphasis added):

Speaking in confidence to a longstanding compatriot friend in mid-October 2016, a Kremlin insider highlighted the importance of Republican presidential candidate Donald TRUMP’s lawyer, Michael COHEN, in the ongoing secret liaison relationship between the New York tycoon’s campaign and the Russian leadership. COHEN’s role had grown following the departure of Paul MANNAFORT [sic] as TRUMP’s campaign manager in August 2016. Prior to that MANNAFORT had led for the Trump side.

According to the Kremlin insider, COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP’s relationship with Russia being exposed. In pursuit of this aim, COHEN had met secretly with several Russian Presidential Administration (PA) Legal Department officials in an EU country in August 2016. The immediate issues had been to contain further scandals involving MANNAFORT’s commercial and political role in Russia/Ukraine and to limit the damage arising from exposure of former TRUMP foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE’s secret meetings with Russian leadership figures in Moscow the previous month. The overall objective had been “to sweep it all under the carpet and make sure no connections could be fully established or proven.”

Then in a report dated the next day, October 20, Steele gave more specifics. He said Cohen’s “clandestine meeting” with Russian officials was in Prague, and mentioned a Russian NGO, Rossotrudnichestvo, as a potential host for the meeting.

The final report in the published Steele dossier, dated December 13 (after Trump was elected president), reiterated the claim of a Cohen/Prague meeting — now saying it happened in August or September 2016 — and gave many more supposed specifics (emphasis added):

COHEN had been accompanied to Prague by 3 colleagues and the timing of the visit was either in the last week of August or the first week of September. One of their main Russian interlocutors was Oleg SOLODUKHIN operating under Rossotrudnichestvo cover. According to [redacted], the agenda comprised questions on how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the CLINTON campaign and various contingencies for covering up these operations and Moscow’s secret liaison with the TRUMP team more generally.

The report claims that Cohen discussed how to destroy evidence of this purported hacking operation in the event of a Clinton victory.

These are, of course, highly inflammatory claims that a Trump Organization executive and lawyer was collaborating closely with Russian government officials regarding paying hackers who had worked against the Clinton campaign in some way. But for 15 months after the dossier’s publication, no evidence emerged that this had actually taken place.

Cohen immediately tried to use the “Prague visit” claim to debunk the dossier

You posted that Hillary and the DNC paid, that means you libtards paid an informer from a foreign country to influence an American election. You lying, cheating hypocrites!

NOPE! they paid for opposition RESEARCH which is in no way illegal..... the free beacon also paid for opposition research on trump....and certainly the other candidates running against Trump in the primary did as well...shoot, certainly Bernie paid for opposition research on Hillary...there is no crime in that.....it is all legally reported and within campaign finance laws....

Working and getting help from a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, IS against the law.

They paid a foreigner, one Christopher Steele for the Trump dossier. Opposition research from a foreign agent! So now you cannot bitch if Trump got opposition research from a Russian right?

the opposition researcher can be from any country....

it's working with a foreign GOVERNMENT or government directed agents, that is against the law....

Sounds like Steele was "working with a foreign GOVERNMENT or government directed agents".....

 

[Care4all]

Collusion won't initially send Cohen away for years. Bit there are numerous other crimes that will.

Simple choice Michael...give up the goods in trump or miss your kids growing up. Gotta be a tough choice....huh?

I have a hunch he won't choose "Loyalty" over 15-20 years less in prison.

now now, let's not get carried away.... Cohen will probably not spend any time in prison even if convicted, he will probably get some huge fine and probation and maybe lose his law license in the worst case scenario, and even then since all claims so far in what he is a "Subject" , are all in Federal courts/jurisdictions and Trump can pardon him.

"Subject"....no he is the target in a criminal inquiry. He needs to decide if he wants to continue to jump trump's leg or tell the truth.

he's not gonna squeal...truly do not believe he will, he knows he will be pardoned....unless those State charges showing up, he has no reason to.....

He can't "squeal." Torquemada want's him to perjure himself to avoid further persecution. Cohen is the President's Attorney. While Bob Mueller is a filthy fuck with contempt for the United States and our system of justice, Michael Cohen upholds the standards of our legal system and Constitution. He will not violate attorney client privilege the way that pile of gutter filth Mewler-Torquemada did.

Anyone moved to disbar this piece of shit yet?

only 10% at most of Cohen's time was spent on privileged law stuff, the other 90% was as a business partner of trump's..... and NONE of the communications are privileged attorney client, unless they are discussing legal issues....

that's something I did not know before this incident....the correspondence or actions has to involve the client and attorney involved in legal advice, otherwise it is NOT privilege information.

 

[Rambunctious]

Pardoning witness in an investigation that involves the person pardoning is the definition of Obstruction of Justice

In this case it would be Obstruction of injustice....there is nothing even close to justice about a political witch hunt..... A party that can't handle losing so they attempt to criminalize their opposition...it will backfire big time on them...Obama is already a household treasonous joke...

 

[bripat9643]

I have a hunch he won't choose "Loyalty" over 15-20 years less in prison.

now now, let's not get carried away.... Cohen will probably not spend any time in prison even if convicted, he will probably get some huge fine and probation and maybe lose his law license in the worst case scenario, and even then since all claims so far in what he is a "Subject" , are all in Federal courts/jurisdictions and Trump can pardon him.

"Subject"....no he is the target in a criminal inquiry. He needs to decide if he wants to continue to jump trump's leg or tell the truth.

he's not gonna squeal...truly do not believe he will, he knows he will be pardoned....unless those State charges showing up, he has no reason to.....

He can't "squeal." Torquemada want's him to perjure himself to avoid further persecution. Cohen is the President's Attorney. While Bob Mueller is a filthy fuck with contempt for the United States and our system of justice, Michael Cohen upholds the standards of our legal system and Constitution. He will not violate attorney client privilege the way that pile of gutter filth Mewler-Torquemada did.

Anyone moved to disbar this piece of shit yet?

only 10% at most of Cohen's time was spent on privileged law stuff, the other 90% was as a business partner of trump's..... and NONE of the communications are privileged attorney client, unless they are discussing legal issues....

that's something I did not know before this incident....the correspondence or actions has to involve the client and attorney involved in legal advice, otherwise it is NOT privilege information.

How did you arrive at that figure?

 

[Care4all]

he visited Prague?? !!
really??!! OMG !! someone visited Prague !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump and Trumpsters used the excuse that Cohen never went to Prague, for the past year plus, to discredit the Steele Dossier....which had 3 entries on the meeting with Cohen and the Russian government lawyers.

Now we KNOW, that this was an intentional, bold face LIE, a lie intentionally meant to Deceive and discredit the dossier, and cover up the Trump team's direct connections with the Russians and interference in the election....collusion, if it does turn out to be true.

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

We don't know it's a lie. No one has seen this mysterious evidence the Herr Mewler claims to have. That fantasy meeting isn't the only thing that discredits the "dossier." Comey admitted that nothing in it was verified.

actually, it's true we do not know that Mueller has proof or even said he has proof of such....all of this thread is speculating that Mueller has it, relying on anonymous sources....of investigative reporters in the press.

it's been fun though....

 

[Lakhota]

he visited Prague?? !!
really??!! OMG !! someone visited Prague !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump and Trumpsters used the excuse that Cohen never went to Prague, for the past year plus, to discredit the Steele Dossier....which had 3 entries on the meeting with Cohen and the Russian government lawyers.

Now we KNOW, that this was an intentional, bold face LIE, a lie intentionally meant to Deceive and discredit the dossier, and cover up the Trump team's direct connections with the Russians and interference in the election....collusion, if it does turn out to be true.

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

We don't know it's a lie. No one has seen this mysterious evidence the Herr Mewler claims to have. That fantasy meeting isn't the only thing that discredits the "dossier." Comey admitted that nothing in it was verified.

actually, it's true we do not know that Mueller has proof or even said he has proof of such....all of this thread is speculating that Mueller has it, relying on anonymous sources....

it's been fun though....

McClatchy is known as a reliable source. I've heard several experts say that. I've also found it to be reliable.

 

[Doc1]

Holding out for Treason...

Use of pardon power to end Mueller investigation could be treason

I think the penalty is death....

Any day now....

 

[Doc1]

he visited Prague?? !!
really??!! OMG !! someone visited Prague !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump and Trumpsters used the excuse that Cohen never went to Prague, for the past year plus, to discredit the Steele Dossier....which had 3 entries on the meeting with Cohen and the Russian government lawyers.

Now we KNOW, that this was an intentional, bold face LIE, a lie intentionally meant to Deceive and discredit the dossier, and cover up the Trump team's direct connections with the Russians and interference in the election....collusion, if it does turn out to be true.

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

We don't know it's a lie. No one has seen this mysterious evidence the Herr Mewler claims to have. That fantasy meeting isn't the only thing that discredits the "dossier." Comey admitted that nothing in it was verified.

actually, it's true we do not know that Mueller has proof or even said he has proof of such....all of this thread is speculating that Mueller has it, relying on anonymous sources....

it's been fun though....

McClatchy is known as a reliable source. I've heard several experts say that. I've also found it to be reliable.

Well sure, but then you think anything that is negative to Trump is "reliable".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Holding out for Treason...

Use of pardon power to end Mueller investigation could be treason

I think the penalty is death....

Claire Finkelstein is another moron who doesn't know the definition of treason.

Interfering with law enforcement efforts to secure our country against known, widespread foreign cyberattacks is tantamount to disabling a U.S. missile defense system designed to protect us against a foreign nuclear attack: intelligence is the most critical part of protection against future cyber hacking and cyber interference,

Pardoning someone doesn't interfere with efforts to protect the country against hacking and cyber interference.

the president’s self-interested interference with such intelligence would be giving “aid and comfort” to our most formidable enemy at present, namely Russia

Russia is our enemy?
Hehe, the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.
Tell Vlad after my re-election, I'll be more flexible (with our most formidable enemy).

which constitutes treason.

Which constitutes humor. I hear Colbert is looking for new writers, Claire should apply.

 

[Care4all]

now now, let's not get carried away.... Cohen will probably not spend any time in prison even if convicted, he will probably get some huge fine and probation and maybe lose his law license in the worst case scenario, and even then since all claims so far in what he is a "Subject" , are all in Federal courts/jurisdictions and Trump can pardon him.

"Subject"....no he is the target in a criminal inquiry. He needs to decide if he wants to continue to jump trump's leg or tell the truth.

he's not gonna squeal...truly do not believe he will, he knows he will be pardoned....unless those State charges showing up, he has no reason to.....

He can't "squeal." Torquemada want's him to perjure himself to avoid further persecution. Cohen is the President's Attorney. While Bob Mueller is a filthy fuck with contempt for the United States and our system of justice, Michael Cohen upholds the standards of our legal system and Constitution. He will not violate attorney client privilege the way that pile of gutter filth Mewler-Torquemada did.

Anyone moved to disbar this piece of shit yet?

only 10% at most of Cohen's time was spent on privileged law stuff, the other 90% was as a business partner of trump's..... and NONE of the communications are privileged attorney client, unless they are discussing legal issues....

that's something I did not know before this incident....the correspondence or actions has to involve the client and attorney involved in legal advice, otherwise it is NOT privilege information.

How did you arrive at that figure?

heard it on the news last night.... something to do with Trump never emailing with cohen or anyone, so none of the emails acquired in the search or most of them, did not involve trump/cohen attorney client privilege and I believe they said Cohen had a warrant on him that allowed surveillance on his phone calls a few months back and none of those calls involved legal advice.... I was falling asleep at the time....so let me see if I can verify it with a link in print....

 

[The Professor]

Cohen says he's never been to Prague and he can prove it. Mueller is the one who will have a problem because he must place Cohen in Prague at a time when Cohen cannot prove he was somewhere else. Here is what Cohen said:

“I’m telling you emphatically that I’ve not been to Prague, I’ve never been to Czech [Republic], I’ve not been to Russia,” Cohen said. “The story is completely inaccurate, it is fake news meant to malign Mr. Trump.”

Cohen said that during the time the report places him in Prague, he was actually with his son visiting USC and meeting with the baseball coach. A USC baseball source confirmed Tuesday night that Cohen and his son had visited USC on August 29th. Cohen said that he was in Los Angeles from the 23rd through the 29th of August, and that the rest of the month he was in New York. He said that his only trip to an EU country over the summer had been a vacation to Italy in July. In one instance, the dossier places the alleged Prague travel in "August/September 2016." Cohen said he was in New York for the entire month of September.

Trump's Lawyer Derides Report on Russian Ties as 'Fake News'

If Muller has no evidence other than someone saying Cohen was in Prague, his case seems shaky at best.

It is even possible that Mueller screwed up and is targeting the wrong man, not the president's attorney but another fellow named Michael Cohen with no ties to Trump. CNN’s Jake Tapper noted Wednesday that his reporting suggested a different Michael Cohen with the same year but different birth date traveled to Prague around the same time under a foreign passport.

Gov’t Source Confirms Man Who Was In Prague Was NOT Trump’s Lawyer

CNN’s Jake Tapper reported Wednesday morning that intelligence officials looked into allegations from an explosive unsubstantiated memo that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen visited Prague in late August to meet with Russian officials, and found that it was a different Michael Cohen who visited the city.

Tapper seemingly confirmed Cohen’s story. “People tried to run that down and concluded it was a different Michael Cohen. It was a Michael Cohen with a passport from another country, same birth year, different birth date,” he said.

“For him to dispute he was in the Czech Republic comports with our reporting,” Tapper said. “It’s one of the reasons the intelligence chiefs did not get specific with these allegations. That’s why I hope at the press conference today people are more general, because a lot of that stuff just has not been proven.”
michael-cohen-who-visited-prague/

If Mueller believed Micheal Cohen, the president's attorney, was in Prague, I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate evidence to prove his point. If he has done that, he's toast. Based upon his history, I believe Mueller will do anything to get what he wants. It doesn't matter how many lives he destroys.

Cohen says he's never been to Prague and he can prove it.

I thought Cohen was a better attorney than to say something like that....There are many places I've never been, but I cannot prove that I've never been there. I can prove that I've never been to the Moon, but I can't prove that I've never been to a public place on Earth. I'm reasonably certain too that Cohen as well cannot.

If [anyone] has no evidence other than someone saying Cohen was in Prague, his case seems shaky at best.

Agree.

“For him to dispute he was in the Czech Republic comports with our reporting,” Tapper said.

Off-Topic:

That must be "fake news." CNN would never report something favorable to a Trump crony.

Would that we were to see the conservative "echo chamber" exhibit the same level of integrity as did Tapper in reporting uncertainty associated with the information that was available at the time of his reporting.​

You're an idiot. Perhaps you can't prove you've never been to the moon but I cana nd so can hundreds of millions of other Americans. One of the easiest things to prove is where you were on any given moment. I can prove everywhere I've been every moment of my life. If you can't prove where you've been, good luck if you're ever investigated for a crime.

I can prove that I've never been outside of Lake City, Florida. I can prove conclusively that I've never been to Russia, Italy, New York, California or Washington DC.

Suggestion: Let's see where the accusations that Trump's lawyer went to Prague go. If your are right I will apologize to you and if I'm right you will do the same.

 

[JimH52]

Cohen is in Big Dodo....and he knows it. A pardon or even a hint of a pardon will add to Mueller's obstruction of justice charge.

Even Nixon never came our and said he was firing Cox to stop the "Watergate thing."

But that is exactly what trump said. He fired Comey because of the "Russia thing."

WHAT A DUNCE!

 

[bendog]

How do you know he deliberately avoided having his passport stamped. Is it against US law to vis Prague via Germany?

Read here

Analysis | Michael Cohen’s visiting Prague would be a huge development in the Russia investigation

 

[bripat9643]

Cohen says he's never been to Prague and he can prove it. Mueller is the one who will have a problem because he must place Cohen in Prague at a time when Cohen cannot prove he was somewhere else. Here is what Cohen said:

“I’m telling you emphatically that I’ve not been to Prague, I’ve never been to Czech [Republic], I’ve not been to Russia,” Cohen said. “The story is completely inaccurate, it is fake news meant to malign Mr. Trump.”

Cohen said that during the time the report places him in Prague, he was actually with his son visiting USC and meeting with the baseball coach. A USC baseball source confirmed Tuesday night that Cohen and his son had visited USC on August 29th. Cohen said that he was in Los Angeles from the 23rd through the 29th of August, and that the rest of the month he was in New York. He said that his only trip to an EU country over the summer had been a vacation to Italy in July. In one instance, the dossier places the alleged Prague travel in "August/September 2016." Cohen said he was in New York for the entire month of September.

Trump's Lawyer Derides Report on Russian Ties as 'Fake News'

If Muller has no evidence other than someone saying Cohen was in Prague, his case seems shaky at best.

It is even possible that Mueller screwed up and is targeting the wrong man, not the president's attorney but another fellow named Michael Cohen with no ties to Trump. CNN’s Jake Tapper noted Wednesday that his reporting suggested a different Michael Cohen with the same year but different birth date traveled to Prague around the same time under a foreign passport.

Gov’t Source Confirms Man Who Was In Prague Was NOT Trump’s Lawyer

CNN’s Jake Tapper reported Wednesday morning that intelligence officials looked into allegations from an explosive unsubstantiated memo that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen visited Prague in late August to meet with Russian officials, and found that it was a different Michael Cohen who visited the city.

Tapper seemingly confirmed Cohen’s story. “People tried to run that down and concluded it was a different Michael Cohen. It was a Michael Cohen with a passport from another country, same birth year, different birth date,” he said.

“For him to dispute he was in the Czech Republic comports with our reporting,” Tapper said. “It’s one of the reasons the intelligence chiefs did not get specific with these allegations. That’s why I hope at the press conference today people are more general, because a lot of that stuff just has not been proven.”
michael-cohen-who-visited-prague/

If Mueller believed Micheal Cohen, the president's attorney, was in Prague, I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate evidence to prove his point. If he has done that, he's toast. Based upon his history, I believe Mueller will do anything to get what he wants. It doesn't matter how many lives he destroys.

Cohen says he's never been to Prague and he can prove it.

I thought Cohen was a better attorney than to say something like that....There are many places I've never been, but I cannot prove that I've never been there. I can prove that I've never been to the Moon, but I can't prove that I've never been to a public place on Earth. I'm reasonably certain too that Cohen as well cannot.

If [anyone] has no evidence other than someone saying Cohen was in Prague, his case seems shaky at best.

Agree.

“For him to dispute he was in the Czech Republic comports with our reporting,” Tapper said.

Off-Topic:

That must be "fake news." CNN would never report something favorable to a Trump crony.

Would that we were to see the conservative "echo chamber" exhibit the same level of integrity as did Tapper in reporting uncertainty associated with the information that was available at the time of his reporting.​

You're an idiot. Perhaps you can't prove you've never been to the moon but I cana nd so can hundreds of millions of other Americans. One of the easiest things to prove is where you were on any given moment. I can prove everywhere I've been every moment of my life. If you can't prove where you've been, good luck if you're ever investigated for a crime.

I can prove that I've never been outside of Lake City, Florida. I can prove conclusively that I've never been to Russia, Italy, New York, California or Washington DC.

Suggestion: Let's see where the accusations that Trump's lawyer went to Prague go. If your are right I will apologize to you and if I'm right you will do the same.

Cell phone records would prove where he was. I know the FBI has access to those. I think Herr Mewler is blowing hot gas out his ass.

 

[bendog]

My thread was closed and I was told there were 5 or 6 of the threads that stated....Mueller has evidence Cohen made secret trip to Prague through Germany to prevent his passport from being stamped. Just asking....WHERE ARE THEY?

Zu shud be very careful asking zese kinz of vestions.