Where do Republicans get the knowledge of the Middle East they use to develop policy?

You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
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They get their knowledge from Scotty and Bones? Now that you mention it............
if they were real....hey two brilliant guys to get knowledge from.....i sure as hell would listen to Scotty on engineering problems over that engineer we have here from Chicago who posts all that shit about Republicans.........
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
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They get their knowledge from Scotty and Bones? Now that you mention it............
if they were real....hey two brilliant guys to get knowledge from.....i sure as hell would listen to Scotty on engineering problems over that engineer we have here from Chicago who posts all that shit about Republicans.........

Who apparently did not know that Iraq and Iran are different countries :banghead:
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
View attachment 32651

They get their knowledge from Scotty and Bones? Now that you mention it............
if they were real....hey two brilliant guys to get knowledge from.....i sure as hell would listen to Scotty on engineering problems over that engineer we have here from Chicago who posts all that shit about Republicans.........

Who apparently did not know that Iraq and Iran are different countries :banghead:
well in their time they may not have existed anymore.......in 300 years anything can happen....:dunno:......
 
It's not like the Dem track record in the Middle East is much better. LBJ getting involved with the 67 War comes to mind. Or Carter and letting the Shah be deposed and allowing Iran to become a radical sectarian state. Or being held hostage by OPEC. Or the hostage crisis. Or Clinton and his do nothing strategy (except bomb a few milk factories when he got caught getting his dick sucked). Or cutting and running after Mogadishu. Or Obama and his backing the Arab Spring. Or Obama backing the Islamists in Syria until it became apparent they were a lesser evil than Assad. Or Obama pulling out of Iraq and not having a clue what to do with ISIS.

Face it, neither party has a clue when it comes to dealing with that region.

Or Carter and letting the Shah be deposed and allowing Iran to become a radical sectarian state.

Knock Knock, the Shah was a despot.

Iran Had a Democracy Before We Took It Away Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

Iran is more of a Theocratic Democracy. Secular leaders are voted into office by the population but the country is controlled by the religious. Kind of what the right wingers want here.

It's your kind that prove right wingers don't know anything. That's why it's wrong they should be making policy. Their ignorant policies only lead to disaster and then they blame their disasters on everyone else. They take no responsibility.

Yes and now the Iranians are SO much better off.

What was the difference between Saddam and the Shah?

You think the Shah of Iran was less brutal than Saddam?

This is why Republicans shouldn't be involved in foreign policy. They just don't know anything about anything. Only what they imagine.

Are the Iranians better off now than they were then?

You think Iran was able to count 41 MILLION ballots by hand in 24 hours?

Clearly, if the Iranians had a revolution, they didn't think they were better off. But somehow you know? Have you been there? Do you know any Iranians living in Iran?

Republicans wanted to "liberate" Iraq. Where are the parades? Were are the thrown flowers? When is "America Appreciation Day"?

Do you understand how easy it is to tear apart an argument with people who don't know anything? Now put those people in charge and you have the GOP leadership.
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
Rdean saw Glenn beck on the Kelley show....
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
Rdean saw Glenn beck on the Kelley show....

Glenn Beck is a "Muslim"? I didn't know.
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
Rdean saw Glenn beck on the Kelley show....

Glenn Beck is a "Muslim"? I didn't know.
You don't have to be a muslim to know muslim history....duh.
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?

Too many.



Grover Norquist is a Muslim Brotherhood facilitator.
 
We do know where the pond scum get it.....

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Republicans are mainly informed by people who opportunistically confirm their worst fears and prejudices like always. The name "curve-ball" comes to mind.

And you'd be what?

"Odd Ball"?
For those of you who have short memories, "curve-ball" was the CIA code name for the informant that fed the Bush administration a colossal load of bullshit in order to justify going to war in Iraq. By the time his story was independently checked and found to be LIES Baghdad was in ruins and Bush was scrambling to find a backup justification for invading a sovereign nation for no good reason. The rest of the intelligence community told them Saddam was no threat to us so they went looking for someone who told them exactly what they wanted to hear.
 
It's not like the Dem track record in the Middle East is much better. LBJ getting involved with the 67 War comes to mind. Or Carter and letting the Shah be deposed and allowing Iran to become a radical sectarian state. Or being held hostage by OPEC. Or the hostage crisis. Or Clinton and his do nothing strategy (except bomb a few milk factories when he got caught getting his dick sucked). Or cutting and running after Mogadishu. Or Obama and his backing the Arab Spring. Or Obama backing the Islamists in Syria until it became apparent they were a lesser evil than Assad. Or Obama pulling out of Iraq and not having a clue what to do with ISIS.

Face it, neither party has a clue when it comes to dealing with that region.

Or Carter and letting the Shah be deposed and allowing Iran to become a radical sectarian state.

Knock Knock, the Shah was a despot.

Iran Had a Democracy Before We Took It Away Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

Iran is more of a Theocratic Democracy. Secular leaders are voted into office by the population but the country is controlled by the religious. Kind of what the right wingers want here.

It's your kind that prove right wingers don't know anything. That's why it's wrong they should be making policy. Their ignorant policies only lead to disaster and then they blame their disasters on everyone else. They take no responsibility.

Yes and now the Iranians are SO much better off.

What was the difference between Saddam and the Shah?

You think the Shah of Iran was less brutal than Saddam?

This is why Republicans shouldn't be involved in foreign policy. They just don't know anything about anything. Only what they imagine.

Are the Iranians better off now than they were then?

You think Iran was able to count 41 MILLION ballots by hand in 24 hours?

Clearly, if the Iranians had a revolution, they didn't think they were better off. But somehow you know? Have you been there? Do you know any Iranians living in Iran?

Republicans wanted to "liberate" Iraq. Where are the parades? Were are the thrown flowers? When is "America Appreciation Day"?

Do you understand how easy it is to tear apart an argument with people who don't know anything? Now put those people in charge and you have the GOP leadership.

You aren't tearing anything apart.

Why don't you answer the questions?

Do you believe that they counted 41 million ballots by hand in 24 hours?
Do you believe that the Iranians are better off under a strict Shia Theocracy than were under the Shah?
 
Republicans are mainly informed by people who opportunistically confirm their worst fears and prejudices like always. The name "curve-ball" comes to mind.

And you'd be what?

"Odd Ball"?
For those of you who have short memories, "curve-ball" was the CIA code name for the informant that fed the Bush administration a colossal load of bullshit in order to justify going to war in Iraq. By the time his story was independently checked and found to be LIES Baghdad was in ruins and Bush was scrambling to find a backup justification for invading a sovereign nation for no good reason. The rest of the intelligence community told them Saddam was no threat to us so they went looking for someone who told them exactly what they wanted to hear.

Wasn't Saddam's breaking of the Gulf War I treaty and the 16 U.N,. resolutions against him enough? Never mind the payoffs to France Germany, Russia, and U.N. Sec General for MILLIONS of dollars in the corrupt OIL FOR FOOD program to have them VETO any response to his flagrant offenses!
 
Republicans are mainly informed by people who opportunistically confirm their worst fears and prejudices like always. The name "curve-ball" comes to mind.

And you'd be what?

"Odd Ball"?
For those of you who have short memories, "curve-ball" was the CIA code name for the informant that fed the Bush administration a colossal load of bullshit in order to justify going to war in Iraq. By the time his story was independently checked and found to be LIES Baghdad was in ruins and Bush was scrambling to find a backup justification for invading a sovereign nation for no good reason. The rest of the intelligence community told them Saddam was no threat to us so they went looking for someone who told them exactly what they wanted to hear.

Wasn't Saddam's breaking of the Gulf War I treaty and the 16 U.N,. resolutions against him enough? Never mind the payoffs to France Germany, Russia, and U.N. Sec General for MILLIONS of dollars in the corrupt OIL FOR FOOD program to have them VETO any response to his flagrant offenses!
If all that shit makes a trillion dollars and thousands of young American lives worth it then go right ahead and keep believing that it was in our national interests to invade and try to occupy the fucking shithole, history has already made it's judgment.
 
You know when a dog comes to your back door and you feed it, it will show up every day after that looking for food? Even if it bites your hand, it will still look for food.

After Desert Storm, those in the Middle East have gotten used to the US rushing in to protect them from each other. Everyone is worried about the town of 50,000 and the upcoming bloodshed. The combined armies of the four largest countries is over 1.5 million. Isis has around 30,000 members. If 1,500,000 can't defeat 30,000, then we will truly be there forever. We need to keep our resolve and have only a minimum engagement. Limit it to air power.

Next year the US will become the world's leading oil producer. If that's the case, why are we still trying to lose Americans in the Middle East?

And stop listening to Republicans. They completely destabilized that region. Every suggestion I've heard from them will lead to further disaster. They have no clue why the Middle East is the way it is. And they don't want to know. Have you heard any Republican say anything that shows they understand the region, it's people or their politics? They don't know. So why listen to them try to develop policy about something they don't care to know anything about. Guess how many Muslims are in the Republican Party?
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I just noticed that. LOL

Having rdeanie preach to us is like having bozo the clown doing it. It makes me
 
Republicans are mainly informed by people who opportunistically confirm their worst fears and prejudices like always. The name "curve-ball" comes to mind.

And you'd be what?

"Odd Ball"?
For those of you who have short memories, "curve-ball" was the CIA code name for the informant that fed the Bush administration a colossal load of bullshit in order to justify going to war in Iraq. By the time his story was independently checked and found to be LIES Baghdad was in ruins and Bush was scrambling to find a backup justification for invading a sovereign nation for no good reason. The rest of the intelligence community told them Saddam was no threat to us so they went looking for someone who told them exactly what they wanted to hear.

Wasn't Saddam's breaking of the Gulf War I treaty and the 16 U.N,. resolutions against him enough? Never mind the payoffs to France Germany, Russia, and U.N. Sec General for MILLIONS of dollars in the corrupt OIL FOR FOOD program to have them VETO any response to his flagrant offenses!
If all that shit makes a trillion dollars and thousands of young American lives worth it then go right ahead and keep believing that it was in our national interests to invade and try to occupy the fucking shithole, history has already made it's judgment.

So you believe that Saddam's expansion into Kuwait to take their oil before Gulf War I wasn't a forerunner of his quest to take over all ME oil, thus putting America under the threat of collapsing our economy, and the subsequent threats that ":W" attended to, and who BJ Clinton stated was a nuclear threat, was a bad thing! WE should have taken ALL Iraq's oil, and stayed there, thus THREATENING Iran, laying notice on Russia, and undoubtedly preventing ISIS from forming!
 
Republicans are mainly informed by people who opportunistically confirm their worst fears and prejudices like always. The name "curve-ball" comes to mind.

And you'd be what?

"Odd Ball"?
For those of you who have short memories, "curve-ball" was the CIA code name for the informant that fed the Bush administration a colossal load of bullshit in order to justify going to war in Iraq. By the time his story was independently checked and found to be LIES Baghdad was in ruins and Bush was scrambling to find a backup justification for invading a sovereign nation for no good reason. The rest of the intelligence community told them Saddam was no threat to us so they went looking for someone who told them exactly what they wanted to hear.

Wasn't Saddam's breaking of the Gulf War I treaty and the 16 U.N,. resolutions against him enough? Never mind the payoffs to France Germany, Russia, and U.N. Sec General for MILLIONS of dollars in the corrupt OIL FOR FOOD program to have them VETO any response to his flagrant offenses!
If all that shit makes a trillion dollars and thousands of young American lives worth it then go right ahead and keep believing that it was in our national interests to invade and try to occupy the fucking shithole, history has already made it's judgment.

So you believe that Saddam's expansion into Kuwait to take their oil before Gulf War I wasn't a forerunner of his quest to take over all ME oil, thus putting America under the threat of collapsing our economy, and the subsequent threats that ":W" attended to, and who BJ Clinton stated was a nuclear threat, was a bad thing! WE should have taken ALL Iraq's oil, and stayed there, thus THREATENING Iran, laying notice on Russia, and undoubtedly preventing ISIS from forming!
I believe none of the official justifications for meddling in the region. Zero. Zilch. All of it has come at a great cost with nothing tangible to show for it. More America hating terrorists now than ever. The regional oil market still funds monsters and we have thousands of dead americans all because we could never just leave the people alone who live on top of OUR oil.
 

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