Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

[GreatestIam]

Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?


Or a perpetual insurgency war against civilians?


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Islam’s hates democracy and the Western culture. Islam is determined to destroy the West and democracy so as to install a World Caliphate.


The West is beginning to hate Islam thanks to this hatred against them and Western ideas of a New World Order.


If we as a world cannot change our views and remove this hate from our hearts, we are bound to end in a larger numbers of small battles within a larger war.


We must find a better way to appease our objections to rapprochement. If we cannot dispel these irritants, a long and expanding jihad is inevitable. Because the jihad can only be an insurgency war, eventually the West will have to resort to the same techniques if the West is to win. This then would make the war against civilians instead against combatants. This is a coward’s war that Islam is forcing onto the world. Islam of course will blame the West for the war that the West will blame on Islam.


Both sides want to eventually have a one world government. I advocate for a one world government and think that the West and Islam should sit down and decide the rules of this one world government and to see if there is any rapprochement possible between what would be an Islamic theocracy or Caliphate, with an absentee God ruling through Sharia, and a freedom promoting Western system with a visible elected ruler.


If no rapprochement is possible then it is the Wests duty to declare a war against Islam and annihilate it if it will not reform into a peaceful world religion.


Many try to cut radical jihadists out of Islam’s general population and say they are hijacking Islam and are not really real Muslims. I suggest that Islam itself and their holy books are what are creating these extremists and that Islam has now produced a majority of extremists within its general population. If Islam does not reform its belief system and literature, the West will have no choice but to try to destroy Islam. The older world would have had to do the same with Christianity if it had maintained its own jihad that was called the Inquisition. Radical Islam is being seen as the mainstream Islam and the world cannot and will not live with such an Islam.


We are not creating any new conditions between Islam and the West. Attacks and the death of innocent non-combatants civilians in this cowardly jihad will continue if no new conditions are introduced. It is said that to continue to do the same thing and expect a different outcome, is insanity. We are at the point of insanity and that is why I suggest a new condition which would be peace negotiations that would produce a new order in the world that would embrace both Western ideologies as well as Muslim ideologies.


This may be the only way to rid the world of the hate and cowardly jihad against civilians. A form of insurgency fighting that the West would have to adopt against Islam to win the jihad.


If you do not agree, then what would you suggest to bring the West and Islam to a rapprochement?


Regards

DL

 

[jwoodie]

You pose a choice between two alternatives and then reject both of them?

 

[GreatestIam]

You pose a choice between two alternatives and then reject both of them?

Not really. I think we should have a one world government, as I stated, and recognize that we somehow have to bring eastern and Western thinking closer before any peace of any kind can be had.

Regards
DL

 

[Kondor3]

What is needed is for Christendom (Europe, the Russias, North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand, etc.) to unite in solidarity against Islamic militancy and aggression.

This does not mean that we have to perpetually wage war - merely that we make it clear to Islam that, collectively, we are bigger and badder than they are, and that if they phukk with us on a substantive scale and in earnest, they will lose, and greatly regret their condition, when the smoke clears.

Setting aside the foolishness in Iraq, and our unwise over-staying of what should have been a six-month In-and-Out in Afghanistan...

An occasional sortie, like Syria, is just what the doctor ordered, to convince them that they are in over their heads, but we need not seek those out - merely react to the occasional and inevitable childish misbehaviors of this backwards warrior-religion cult...

But... so long as they don't attack us, we should probably not go out of our way to attack them...

 

[pismoe]

What is needed is for Christendom (Europe, the Russias, North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand, etc.) to unite in solidarity against Islamic militancy and aggression.

This does not mean that we have to perpetually wage war - merely that we make it clear to Islam that, collectively, we are bigger and badder than they are, and that if they phukk with us on a substantive scale and in earnest, they will lose, and greatly regret their condition, when the smoke clears.

Setting aside the foolishness in Iraq, and our unwise over-staying of what should have been a six-month In-and-Out in Afghanistan...

An occasional sortie, like Syria, is just what the doctor ordered, to convince them that they are in over their heads, but we need not see those out - merely react to the occasional and inevitable childish misbehaviors of this backwards warrior-religion cult...

------------------------------------------- I mostly agree , only problem I see is that islam is crazy , see the tactics they employ like suicide bombers using traditional explosives . What happens when the Islamic coalition get a hold of nukes but the still retain their crazy suicidal tendencies . Mostly , I am thinking iran and its suicidal Iranian 12er sect that would like to usher in the 'mahdi' . Actually , I think that most of iran is 12er Kondor .

 

[LordBrownTrout]

A one world govt will not bring peace.

 

[jwoodie]

The development of new energy sources greatly reduces the West's need to engage these Middle Eastern potentates. Build a "wall" and let them settle their own problems. The "White Man's Burden" no longer exists.

P.S. Let them know that a nuclear attack upon Israel will mean their instant obliteration.

 

[GreatestIam]

What is needed is for Christendom (Europe, the Russias, North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand, etc.) to unite in solidarity against Islamic militancy and aggression.

This does not mean that we have to perpetually wage war - merely that we make it clear to Islam that, collectively, we are bigger and badder than they are, and that if they phukk with us on a substantive scale and in earnest, they will lose, and greatly regret their condition, when the smoke clears.

Setting aside the foolishness in Iraq, and our unwise over-staying of what should have been a six-month In-and-Out in Afghanistan...

An occasional sortie, like Syria, is just what the doctor ordered, to convince them that they are in over their heads, but we need not seek those out - merely react to the occasional and inevitable childish misbehaviors of this backwards warrior-religion cult...

But... so long as they don't attack us, we should probably not go out of our way to attack them...

If they do not attack, I agree.

Their religion will not allow them to not attack.

As to bringing Christians together. No.

It should remain a secular fight and not a fight from a Christian religion that used the same barbaric methods with their own form of jihad. Their Inquisition.

You forget that given the chance, Christianity itself would attempt to dominate the world just as it has in the past.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

What is needed is for Christendom (Europe, the Russias, North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand, etc.) to unite in solidarity against Islamic militancy and aggression.

This does not mean that we have to perpetually wage war - merely that we make it clear to Islam that, collectively, we are bigger and badder than they are, and that if they phukk with us on a substantive scale and in earnest, they will lose, and greatly regret their condition, when the smoke clears.

Setting aside the foolishness in Iraq, and our unwise over-staying of what should have been a six-month In-and-Out in Afghanistan...

An occasional sortie, like Syria, is just what the doctor ordered, to convince them that they are in over their heads, but we need not see those out - merely react to the occasional and inevitable childish misbehaviors of this backwards warrior-religion cult...

------------------------------------------- I mostly agree , only problem I see is that islam is crazy , see the tactics they employ like suicide bombers using traditional explosives . What happens when the Islamic coalition get a hold of nukes but the still retain their crazy suicidal tendencies . Mostly , I am thinking iran and its suicidal Iranian 12er sect that would like to usher in the 'mahdi' . Actually , I think that most of iran is 12er Kondor .

I agree that it is Islam's mind set that needs to be reformed. If Muslims cannot reform Sharia then we should try to exterminate them because Sharia wants to exterminate us. They leave us no choice.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

A one world govt will not bring peace.

As has been said, to continue to do the same thing while expecting a different result is insane.

Your way has not brought peace. Why not try something new?

What do you fear?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

The development of new energy sources greatly reduces the West's need to engage these Middle Eastern potentates. Build a "wall" and let them settle their own problems. The "White Man's Burden" no longer exists.

P.S. Let them know that a nuclear attack upon Israel will mean their instant obliteration.

That would need a strong Western voice and most of our leaders are way too politically correct for that. Most are likely owned by our M E oligarch owners.

Regards
DL

 

[pismoe]

What is needed is for Christendom (Europe, the Russias, North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand, etc.) to unite in solidarity against Islamic militancy and aggression.

This does not mean that we have to perpetually wage war - merely that we make it clear to Islam that, collectively, we are bigger and badder than they are, and that if they phukk with us on a substantive scale and in earnest, they will lose, and greatly regret their condition, when the smoke clears.

Setting aside the foolishness in Iraq, and our unwise over-staying of what should have been a six-month In-and-Out in Afghanistan...

An occasional sortie, like Syria, is just what the doctor ordered, to convince them that they are in over their heads, but we need not seek those out - merely react to the occasional and inevitable childish misbehaviors of this backwards warrior-religion cult...

But... so long as they don't attack us, we should probably not go out of our way to attack them...

If they do not attack, I agree.

Their religion will not allow them to not attack.

As to bringing Christians together. No.

It should remain a secular fight and not a fight from a Christian religion that used the same barbaric methods with their own form of jihad. Their Inquisition.

You forget that given the chance, Christianity itself would attempt to dominate the world just as it has in the past.

Regards
DL

-------------------------------------------- well even if true islam is barbaric while modern Christianity is pretty benign . islam needs to be eradicated Greatest !!

 

[Manonthestreet]

they are one and the same....neither thank you

 

[pismoe]

and islam has ALWAYS been barbaric !!

 

[pismoe]

and , just a comment but Russia seems to be taking a Christian type view on this war . That would be the position of their Orthodox church and individual Russian soldiers Greatest !!

 

[pismoe]

I mean , look at islams treatment of gays as one example , the sharia has always killed them in one way or the other since 'moe' came up with islam and sharia !! So that been about the last 1400 years Greatest .

 

[eagle1462010]

One world Gov't..........NO

Our cultural difference make negotiation impossible. The shining example is Israel. They have negotiated and fought since they became a Nation. It is perpetual War as the other side refuses to end it. So the Israeli's have adopted a tactic of you kill one of mine I kill 10 or a 100 of yours. It never ends.

Given the History of the Caliphate, the West only answer is to DESTROY THEM UTTERLY......it is the only thing that has ever worked in History, and it will only end now if we fight it like a War. There will never be an end to the violence associated with Radical Islam.

 

[pismoe]

just some news related to 'islam' --- ISIS kidnap 400 civilians including women and children ---

 

[pismoe]

and the above link is 'islam' !!

 

[Clementine]

You pose a choice between two alternatives and then reject both of them?

Both should be rejected because both eliminate freedom and liberty, not to mention justice.

The Muslims are more savage thus far in their attempts to control the world.

Here are some remarks from a "peaceful" Muslim:


Leading Muslim Scholar: Gender Equality Against Islam – Women Only Fit to Deliver Children

"Kanthapuram AP Aboobacker Musliar, leader of the traditionalist Sunni Muslim community in the southern Indian state of Kerala, visited New Zealand in January of this year in hopes of strengthening his base of followers in the city of Hamilton by building what he called "a beacon of Islam" in the area.

At a conference of the Muslim Students Federation (MSF) toward the end of last year, Kanthapuram, who frequently calls upon men to "lord over their women," was attacked for his misogynistic statements.

"Gender equality is not Islamic, wise, or humane," Kanthapuram said. "It [gender equality] is not going to happen. Women can only deliver babies. This world is controlled by men. Women can’t withstand a major crisis and they even lack courage to perform major surgeries including open heart procedures."

The 76-year-old Islamic scholar also spoke out against reserving seats for women in elections. He remarked that the 50% of seats reserved for women in civic polls was "too high."

Kanthapuram claimed that allowing women and men to study together in colleges was "part of a calculated move to destroy Islam and culture."

"The obstinacy that boys and girls should study sitting on the same bench is an indirect attack aimed at destroying Islam and its culture," Kanthapuram said."

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/17/leading-muslim-scholar-gender-equality-against-islam-women-only-fit-to-deliver-children/


One World Order would be much the same since there are so many more "moderate, peaceful" Muslims like the asshole above. They will never approve of the freedoms and culture of western civilization and seek to wipe us out. Billions will get behind the belief that freedom and liberty are a direct threat to Islam and they will stop it.

To have a One World Order, the largest group will lead. Sadly, that means some savages with archaic beliefs.