White House Admits: 'No Insurance For Everyone'

[Flash]

What do you stupid Moon Bats think about your Boy Obama?

Under his failed program 26 million American are not insured.

Kind of a bummer, huh?

not for the 20 million that now have healthcare ... bummer huh.

I think you are confused.

Why Obamacare's ‘20 Million’ Number Is Fake

Why Obamacare’s ‘20 Million’ Number Is Fake

The Obama administration claims 20 million more Americans today have health care due to Obamacare. But that is based on six years of survey data, not actual sign-ups. The reality is that when you look at the actual net gains over the past two years since the program was fully implemented, the number is 14 million, and of that, 11.8 million (84 percent) were people given the “gift” of Medicaid.

And new research shows that even fewer people will be left without insurance after the repeal of Obamacare. Numbers are still being crunched, but between statistics released by the Congressional Budget Office and one of the infamous architects of Obamacare, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Jonathan Gruber, it’s estimated that anywhere from 2 to 7 million people now on Medicaid would have qualified for the program even without Obamacare.

That further discredits the administration’s claim of 20 million more Americans having health insurance because of Obamacare.

 

[Lakhota]

Here is some interesting food for thought:

The law created “winners” and “losers.” The GOP plan would too.

The Story Of 2 Families And The Real-life Impact of Obamacare Repeal

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Why is it bad that people who choose not to have health insurance, don't have insurance?

this bill by the R's has in it, that if any prson decides to go without insurance for longer than 6 weeks, then the insurance companies can charge you 3 times the cost of insurance monthly premiums for you for 2 years straight.

that does NOT ELIMINATE the mandate....it forces you to stay insured or your insurance will go up 3 TIMES the normal rate for two YEARS....

and if you go without insurance because you cant presently afford it, then you will NEVER EVER B ABLE TO AFFORD IT at 3 times the normal rate!!!

THIS IS a SINFUL and horrible proposal, it should be killed and they need to start from square 1.

Oh, BTW:

Most people that had catastrophic plans that were paying 80/month are now paying about 320/month for the same. Thanks to Obamacare.

Were you all pissed about that ?

who even had only catastrophic plans? a handful of people? even so, they paid more for a lot more....and to help pay for those with preexisting conditions....yes, we that are healthy are helping those with prexisting conditions to have access to insurance they can afford...in o-care and in trumpcare...no difference!

I was wrong on 3 times the amount, it was 30% more....

Some Republican leaders are thinking about getting rid of a provision in the American Health Care Act. As a way of replacing the individual mandate, which requires that eligible Americans sign up for health insurance, the AHCA would institute a provision that would require insurance companies “to charge a 30 percent penalty to customers who go without coverage for at least 63 days.” Like the individual mandate, this 30 percent penalty is also an incentive to encourage young, healthy consumers to buy insurance so that insurance pools will have the finances to cover people with pre-existing conditions. Many conservatives are not onboard with the 30 percent penalty, believing that it is another form of the individual mandate. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) called for something that would “scrap the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions along with other [insurance company] regulations.” Cruz believes these regulations to be the “principal driver of skyrocketing premiums.”

https://www.healthmarkets.com/resources/health-insurance/trumpcare-news-updates/

I give you credit for caring......

But, what part of 8,700 per person per year does not raise your eyebrows.

I can see some of the logic behind the 30% because you could sign up after you are diagnosed with cancer....after going insurance free for 10 years.

I still don't like it....and apparently a lot of other conservatives don't.

In the end, it is that huge cost number you and I need to be worried about.

Have you ever looked the Singapore model ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

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More: White House Admits Trump 'Insurance For Everybody' Guarantee Isn't Going To Happen

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Good!

It is your responsibility get your own insurance. Not the government's responsibility to get it for you.

You Moon Bats don't understand that, do you?

So, you think automobile insurance should be optional? What about home insurance?

Don't own an auto......

Don't own a home....

you bet.

 

[boedicca]

“The only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law.”

WASHINGTON ― White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney threw cold water on the promise that “everybody” would get health insurance under GOP legislation ― a promise that was made by none other than President Donald Trump himself.

“We don’t have universal ― the only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law,” Mulvaney said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

The expectation of everyone in the nation getting health insurance if Trump took office came from promises he himself made.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in January. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

In 2015, Trump similarly told CBS’s “60 Minutes,” “Everybody’s got to be covered.”

But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office made clear in its recent analysis that there’s no way everyone will get insurance under the GOP’s American Health Care Act. Instead, 24 million people stand to lose coverage over the next decade.

The CBO also took issue with the White House’s claim that health care will suddenly be significantly more affordable. It found, for example, that a 64-year-old person who makes $26,500 could face an increase in his or her premiums from $1,700 now to $14,600 under the GOP bill.

More: White House Admits Trump 'Insurance For Everybody' Guarantee Isn't Going To Happen

Another Trump lie. Now we finally hear the brutal truth. Republicans should join Democrats in fixing the glitches in Obamacare. However, we all know that will never happen.

We don't have insurance for everyone now, bub.

What we have is incredibly expensive and useless insurance for people who pay for their own in order to subsidize free loaders.

I'll also note the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that Insurance is Not Health Care.

BUT WHAT has this bill done to change deductibles...???

NOTHING AT ALL

What dos this do to give you better coverage for less price?

NOTHING AT ALL

btw it's a lie about not being able to afford to see a doctor without having to pay your high deductible first, your annual physical and any tests required for your age were free, any additional doctor's visits were copays of $20 to $40 for a doctor's visit....

It's a budget reconciliation bill. It can't deal with that issue.

What can be done is that Tom Price can change the one size fits all requirement so that insurance companies can design and offer proper insurance once again.

 

[Anathema]

More money, no black lung, a decent future for their kids and community ... Anathema -- Post a link that shows miners would rather do back breaking work with no future in it AND drink the water drumpf just poisoned.

I'm not here to dance for you or try to change your mind on anything. You already know that.

Those people are not going to be open to the sorts of changes you're talking about. They're a society based in tradition and history, and they're unlikely to give that up without a serious fight.

 

[Care4all]

“The only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law.”

WASHINGTON ― White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney threw cold water on the promise that “everybody” would get health insurance under GOP legislation ― a promise that was made by none other than President Donald Trump himself.

“We don’t have universal ― the only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law,” Mulvaney said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

The expectation of everyone in the nation getting health insurance if Trump took office came from promises he himself made.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in January. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

In 2015, Trump similarly told CBS’s “60 Minutes,” “Everybody’s got to be covered.”

But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office made clear in its recent analysis that there’s no way everyone will get insurance under the GOP’s American Health Care Act. Instead, 24 million people stand to lose coverage over the next decade.

The CBO also took issue with the White House’s claim that health care will suddenly be significantly more affordable. It found, for example, that a 64-year-old person who makes $26,500 could face an increase in his or her premiums from $1,700 now to $14,600 under the GOP bill.

More: White House Admits Trump 'Insurance For Everybody' Guarantee Isn't Going To Happen

Another Trump lie. Now we finally hear the brutal truth. Republicans should join Democrats in fixing the glitches in Obamacare. However, we all know that will never happen.

We don't have insurance for everyone now, bub.

What we have is incredibly expensive and useless insurance for people who pay for their own in order to subsidize free loaders.

I'll also note the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that Insurance is Not Health Care.

BUT WHAT has this bill done to change deductibles...???

NOTHING AT ALL

What dos this do to give you better coverage for less price?

NOTHING AT ALL

btw it's a lie about not being able to afford to see a doctor without having to pay your high deductible first, your annual physical and any tests required for your age were free, any additional doctor's visits were copays of $20 to $40 for a doctor's visit....

It's a budget reconciliation bill. It can't deal with that issue.

What can be done is that Tom Price can change the one size fits all requirement so that insurance companies can design and offer proper insurance once again.

I was just thinking about that after reading Sun Devil's post about people who wanted to carry catastrophic/hospitalization only...that O care would have been better if they still allowed catastrophic plans, to be considered coverage for those on the individual market....there isn't an employer that I know of that offers only catastrophic coverage as a benefit....wonder if there is some rule that employers can only get the tax write off if it is full healthcare coverage in their employee plans???

so, they were probably a good way for those younger or with less to spend who did not get coverage through their employer...to at minimum have coverage for something big and bad happening...in the Individual insurance Market

 

[Onyx]

I don't really give a shit. Get a job if you want health insurance.

Some people can't afford 10k for health insurance with a job.

Not really the problem though. The problem is that Donald Trump lied..... again.

 

[Onyx]

Trump's mouth wrote checks that his ass can't cash.

Didn't he say something about not touching medicaid?

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I don't really give a shit. Get a job if you want health insurance.

Some people can't afford 10k for health insurance with a job.

Not really the problem though. The problem is that Donald Trump lied..... again.

Sounds like a your problem kind of problem, not a my problem kind of problem.

 

[Care4all]

I don't really give a shit. Get a job if you want health insurance.

Some people can't afford 10k for health insurance with a job.

Not really the problem though. The problem is that Donald Trump lied..... again.

in a really big, HUGE way....

 

[Reasonable]

Trump is just making sure that the traditions of America hold, that being poor is both a crime and a death sentence.

You realize everyone dies no matter how much money they have, right?

 

[Reasonable]

I don't really give a shit. Get a job if you want health insurance.

Of course you don't care. You're a deplorable who doesn't care about anyone but yourself.
Not to mention you've been lied to again... and you take it like a male porn actor: up the ass.

^^^ Nasty Bigot ^^^

How is it being a bigot observing him submit himself and opening wide to his fuhrer? Evidently you don't know what the word means.

 

[Borillar]

The Mandate will be ended. So the CBO is correct, there will be less insured. Basic freedoms will be restored to Americans. They'll be making choices again.

And the staggering Government/Healthcare costs are gonna be reduced dramatically. That was also in the CBO Report. But obviously, the usual suspects conveniently ignored that part of the Report.

Yeah, the freedom to get sick and die or go bankrupt. Thanks Trump.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

The Mandate will be ended. So the CBO is correct, there will be less insured. Basic freedoms will be restored to Americans. They'll be making choices again.

And the staggering Government/Healthcare costs are gonna be reduced dramatically. That was also in the CBO Report. But obviously, the usual suspects conveniently ignored that part of the Report.

Yeah, the freedom to get sick and die or go bankrupt. Thanks Trump.

 

[Borillar]

I repeat from the OP:

"The CBO also took issue with the White House’s claim that health care will suddenly be significantly more affordable. It found, for example, that a 64-year-old person who makes $26,500 could face an increase in his or her premiums from $1,700 now to $14,600 under the GOP bill."​

Why would Republicans vote for this?

Because they are a bunch of fucking assholes who probably stand to profit from it somehow.

 

[Claudette]

I don't really give a shit. Get a job if you want health insurance.

I agree. Get a damned job.

If not pay for you're own health care.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump's mouth wrote checks that his ass can't cash.

/---- I guess we have to pass it to see what's in it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The Mandate will be ended. So the CBO is correct, there will be less insured. Basic freedoms will be restored to Americans. They'll be making choices again.

And the staggering Government/Healthcare costs are gonna be reduced dramatically. That was also in the CBO Report. But obviously, the usual suspects conveniently ignored that part of the Report.

Yeah, the freedom to get sick and die or go bankrupt. Thanks Trump.

/---- Quiet woman. You sound hysterical again.

 

[toomuchtime_]

“The only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law.”

WASHINGTON ― White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney threw cold water on the promise that “everybody” would get health insurance under GOP legislation ― a promise that was made by none other than President Donald Trump himself.

“We don’t have universal ― the only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law,” Mulvaney said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

The expectation of everyone in the nation getting health insurance if Trump took office came from promises he himself made.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in January. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

In 2015, Trump similarly told CBS’s “60 Minutes,” “Everybody’s got to be covered.”

But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office made clear in its recent analysis that there’s no way everyone will get insurance under the GOP’s American Health Care Act. Instead, 24 million people stand to lose coverage over the next decade.

The CBO also took issue with the White House’s claim that health care will suddenly be significantly more affordable. It found, for example, that a 64-year-old person who makes $26,500 could face an increase in his or her premiums from $1,700 now to $14,600 under the GOP bill.

More: White House Admits Trump 'Insurance For Everybody' Guarantee Isn't Going To Happen

Another Trump lie. Now we finally hear the brutal truth. Republicans should join Democrats in fixing the glitches in Obamacare. However, we all know that will never happen.

The point Mulvany is making is that no one will be coerced into buying insurance as they were by the Obama regime, but Trump's promise that no one will lose insurance under the healthcare reforms is still intact.