White man shoots very drunk black woman breaking into his house. Charged w murder

[Politico]

Glad to hear it.

 

[Esmeralda]

Again we see that if you're white, you have no rights in america. If the races were reversed, the govt would call the shooter a hero.

And if you are Black, you get shot asking for help.

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

There was a thread on this before, but now the guy is charged with murder, which adds to the situation. Before, people were just speculating about if he'd be charged with murder. That's how I remember it anyway.

 

[Sarah G]

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

Well, he's the judge, jury and executioner, don't you know? What we weren't sure about before was that the girl was very drunk and breaking into the guy's house. We're lucky to have the opening poster clearing that up for us.

So see?

 

[Pogo]

Again we see that if you're white, you have no rights in america. If the races were reversed, the govt would call the shooter a hero.

And if you are Black, you get shot asking for help.

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

There was a thread on this before, but now the guy is charged with murder, which adds to the situation. Before, people were just speculating about if he'd be charged with murder. That's how I remember it anyway.

Right, and we noted that in that thread when it happened. I remember posting on that myself. I think ShitSpitter just didn't get enough of his racial slurs in and he needs a fix so he's goin' down, down to the bits the he left uptown.

 

[Pogo]

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

Well, he's the judge, jury and executioner, don't you know? What we weren't sure about before was that the girl was very drunk and breaking into the guy's house. We're lucky to have the opening poster clearing that up for us.

So see?

I get it. He's horny for a scapegoat. So with a second thread on the same thing he gets to double his prejudice, double his fun.

 

[TheOldSchool]

That's a tough call. Police don't always come, do they? Or if they do come, it may be a long time. I can see the jury, if there is one, using jury nullification on this case.

What if it was a armed burglary and the man was in real danger?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the killer walks. It's a fucked up world we live in.

That's good b/c he will 'walk'.
What was the man supposed to be a mind reader? Some aggressive Black woman is trying to break down his door. It's EFFFFFFING Detroit!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder when Rev. Al and AC and Bernie will offer their 'expertise?
Call the cops? Ya right. You have to make an appointment a week ahead of time! The police chief is busy selling the patrol cars out the back door to line his pockets.
Anyway, another piece of trash can join 'T'.
"Hey dude! Did you 'axe' me if you could eat that drumstick".
She was going to end up dead sooner than later anyway the way she was living.
Social Darwinism.

He will not walk. Just because he wet his pants with fear over a little teenage girl doesn't give him any right to blast her in the face at point blank rage.

 

[Sarah G]

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

Well, he's the judge, jury and executioner, don't you know? What we weren't sure about before was that the girl was very drunk and breaking into the guy's house. We're lucky to have the opening poster clearing that up for us.

So see?

I get it. He's horny for a scapegoat. So with a second thread on the same thing he gets to double his prejudice, double his fun.

He's known for this strategy. Thinks he's sly.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I can't blame the guy for what he did. Anyone who holds this against him was not there to see what took place between him and the girl. With her having both alcohol and drugs inside of her, she could have said or done anything to make that man go as far as he went with her.

God bless you and him always!!!

Holly

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I dunno about this one. Why did he 'go outside" to shoot someone? Was she armed? Why shoot an unarmed women?

I'm all for 2A rights, but this one is a stretch.

It's not "self defence" if there is no eminent danger. A teenaged girl? Unarmed? Sorry, you don't get to shoot someone for knocking on your door. This guy is a ****ing idiot.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I dunno about this one. Why did he 'go outside" to shoot someone? Was she armed? Why shoot an unarmed women?

I'm all for 2A rights, but this one is a stretch.

She wasn't armed and he didn't go outside. I believe he shot her through a screen door. I don't know if something spooked him or it was an accident but you can't just kill someone on your porch when they posed no threat to you.

 

[Zona]

At first, this idiot said the gun went off accidently. Then he changed his story to, he was in fear for his life. Fuck him.

He had a weapon, he could have called the cops, put himself in a defensive mode and waited. Instead, he blew her head off AFTER he opened his door while she was on his porch.

Fuck him.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I can't blame the guy for what he did. Anyone who holds this against him was not there to see what took place between him and the girl. With her having both alcohol and drugs inside of her, she could have said or done anything to make that man go as far as he went with her.

God bless you and him always!!!

Holly

Um ... what?!?

She "said something" to MAKE him shoot her in the face?

 

[Pogo]

I can't blame the guy for what he did. Anyone who holds this against him was not there to see what took place between him and the girl. With her having both alcohol and drugs inside of her, she could have said or done anything to make that man go as far as he went with her.

God bless you and him always!!!

Holly

How do you know he didn't have alcohol and/or drugs in him?

What the hell can an unarmed teenage girl say that justifies getting shot in the face?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I dunno about this one. Why did he 'go outside" to shoot someone? Was she armed? Why shoot an unarmed women?

I'm all for 2A rights, but this one is a stretch.

She wasn't armed and he didn't go outside. I believe he shot her through a screen door. I don't know if something spooked him or it was an accident but you can't just kill someone on your porch when they posed no threat to you.

I can't imagine that he beats the rap

The front of your house is a common area. ANYONE can knock on your door. Even just pulling a gun on them is a crime.

 

[Zona]

There's a lot for a good defense lawyer to work with, starting with the crime riddled city, the lack of police presence, and the state of mind of a man living among such conditions when startled out of bed at 3am to a dark figure trying to break in.

State of mind can get this guy off. A good attorney can make the case.

She was NOT trying to break in. That is why this guy will do time. All the things you mentioned does not matter because of the fact that she was NOT trying to break in. He was not in fear for his life and I hope he does at least 15 years for killing this unarmed girl.

Fuck him.

 

[Rockland]

ShitSpitters, we DID this. Why are you dredging it up again?

I knew who the thread starter was just from reading the title.

 

[Ernie S.]

He didn't need to open the door. He opened the door and then shot her through the screen door. He should have first and foremost, before he did anything, called 911 and said he was in imminent danger, that someone one was trying to get into his house. The cops, thinking a break-in is in progress, will come as soon as possible. I think it is a lame excuse that it is Detroit and they will take hours to come when they are told someone is in the process of breaking into a home and the home owner is there frightened. Also, the home owner could say he has a gun and if the cops don't get there soon, there might be a tragedy. That will get them there. Telling the cops he's got a gun and if they don't get there pronto he might have to shoot someone will light a fire under them. The guy with the gun needs to use his head first and the gun last. He did just the opposite.

After calling 911 and making sure they knew it was necessary to come immediately, he should have stayed inside, prepared, and only shot if the person actually did try to break in. Because she wasn't breaking in, she would be alive and he'd wouldn't be on trial for murder, if he had only used his head and not a gun.

He needed to protect himself and his property. Calling the police in Detroit is bordering on insane

Police response time. It takes an average of 58 minutes — nearly an hour — for Detroit police to respond to any call, whether top priority or routine. The fastest response time for any precinct in the city is 31 minutes; the longest is 115 minutes, or almost two hours. By contrast, the average national response time is 11 minutes, while police in Dearborn, on Detroit’s western border, arrive on average within seven minutes.

 

[Ernie S.]

There's a lot for a good defense lawyer to work with, starting with the crime riddled city, the lack of police presence, and the state of mind of a man living among such conditions when startled out of bed at 3am to a dark figure trying to break in.

State of mind can get this guy off. A good attorney can make the case.

She was NOT trying to break in. That is why this guy will do time. All the things you mentioned does not matter because of the fact that she was NOT trying to break in. He was not in fear for his life and I hope he does at least 15 years for killing this unarmed girl.

Fuck him.

You were there?

I hope he walks.

Fuck you.

 

[TheOldSchool]

There's a lot for a good defense lawyer to work with, starting with the crime riddled city, the lack of police presence, and the state of mind of a man living among such conditions when startled out of bed at 3am to a dark figure trying to break in.

State of mind can get this guy off. A good attorney can make the case.

She was NOT trying to break in. That is why this guy will do time. All the things you mentioned does not matter because of the fact that she was NOT trying to break in. He was not in fear for his life and I hope he does at least 15 years for killing this unarmed girl.

Fuck him.

You were there?

I hope he walks.

Fuck you.

Oh were you there?

I hope the jury looks at the evidence, sincerely debate it, and come to an informed decision.

On the surface it looks like he killed an unarmed teenage girl and will rot for a long time.

 

[Jackson]

He didn't need to open the door. He opened the door and then shot her through the screen door. He should have first and foremost, before he did anything, called 911 and said he was in imminent danger, that someone one was trying to get into his house. The cops, thinking a break-in is in progress, will come as soon as possible. I think it is a lame excuse that it is Detroit and they will take hours to come when they are told someone is in the process of breaking into a home and the home owner is there frightened. Also, the home owner could say he has a gun and if the cops don't get there soon, there might be a tragedy. That will get them there. Telling the cops he's got a gun and if they don't get there pronto he might have to shoot someone will light a fire under them. The guy with the gun needs to use his head first and the gun last. He did just the opposite.

After calling 911 and making sure they knew it was necessary to come immediately, he should have stayed inside, prepared, and only shot if the person actually did try to break in. Because she wasn't breaking in, she would be alive and he'd wouldn't be on trial for murder, if he had only used his head and not a gun.

It's easy to think logically when we are on a message board, comfortably in the security of our homes at 7 at night. We aren't terrified and are thinking clearly. Sure, call 911 and tell them I don't want to shoot this intruder, but get here quickly, like 2 minutes ago. This is a city well known for not having police available and that is going through the victim's mind. Then the victim must think, what does the law state? Does the intruder have to be INSIDE the premises? Is there a STG law? What are my legal rights? Does the intruder have a weapon? What is his/her intentions, how many are there?

How old was the victim? Male or female? Were there children in the home to protect?

How can we judge?