White Supremacist Accused of Amtrak Terror Attack Also Attended Alt-Right Event In Charlottesville,

[Not2BSubjugated]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

 

[Esmeralda]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

Mass shooters are terrorists, saying anything else is just semantics. They intimidate and they terrorize, and they are almost always white.

To dismiss the violence of these murderers because of semantics is something the rightwing gun nuts like to do. They like to dismiss all the murders done by mass shooters here because they are pro-gun.

Well it can't be dismissed or denied. They intimidate and terrorize, and they have killed more than 600 people in America since 1982. It may be convenient for you to dismiss all those lost souls so you can fuel your hated of Muslims and protect your love of guns, but that does not change the fact that mass shooters kill hundreds of people, they terrorize and they intimidate.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

That depends on their motivations. Blacks commit most mass shootings, but does that make blacks terrorists by default? No.

 

[Esmeralda]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

It's a semantic issue about their politics. In fact, they do have social or political aims, always, whether it's about bullying or hatred of the government, they do have an agenda, just each one has their own singular agenda. We cannot dismiss the fact that people are intimated, frightened and terrorized by these people. Why are kids afraid to go to school? Why have schools and other venues instituted lockdown procedures? Why is there added security at schools, movie theatres, malls, etc.? Why do more people want hand guns to carry with them when they go out in public? Why do people suggest teachers should be armed? This is terrorism. Plain and simple.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

It's a semantic issue about their politics. In fact, they do have social or political aims, always, whether it's about bullying or hatred of the government, they do have an agenda, just each one has their own singular agenda. We cannot dismiss the fact that people are intimated, frightened and terrorized by these people. Why are kids afraid to go to school? Why have schools and other venues instituted lockdown procedures? Why is there added security at schools, movie theatres, malls, etc.? Why do more people want hand guns to carry with them when they go out in public? Why do people suggest teachers should be armed? This is terrorism. Plain and simple.

Everything isn't about politics.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

As I said previously, most mass shootings are black on black. Explain the political motivation for blacks to kill each other please?

 

[Esmeralda]

As I said previously, most mass shootings are black on black. Explain the political motivation for blacks to kill each other please?

According to your definition, terrorism always is. I'm saying it isn't.

Now you want to get racist. I despise you racist pigs. The stats I included as far as 600 killed by mass shooters since1982 do not include the type of crime you are attributing to blacks. God, people like are sick and pathetic. I'm not going to discuss anything with a racist pig. You're sick, disgusting human beings. You are the dregs of society.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

Mass shooters are terrorists, saying anything else is just semantics. They intimidate and they terrorize, and they are almost always white.

To dismiss the violence of these murderers because of semantics is something the rightwing gun nuts like to do. They like to dismiss all the murders done by mass shooters here because they are pro-gun.

Well it can't be dismissed or denied. They intimidate and terrorize, and they have killed more than 600 people in America since 1982. It may be convenient for you to dismiss all those lost souls so you can fuel your hated of Muslims and protect your love of guns, but that does not change the fact that mass shooters kill hundreds of people, they terrorize and they intimidate.

Who dismissed their violence? I don't have to call someone a terrorist to acknowledge that they're violent. You're being ridiculous. You need to detach your emotions from the meaning of the word, because they have nothing to do with each other. Like I said, I get that mass shooters are bad, and terrorists are bad, but that doesn't make them the same.

I also don't hate muslims or love guns. The fact that I value accurate terminology when it comes to political and philosophical conversations doesn't mean that I like violence or hate anyone. Stop trying to attach negative bullshit to people who disagree with you. Find a better way to ease your intellectual insecurity than by fabricating some weird moral high ground based on thoughts in your head, it's very unbecoming.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

As I said previously, most mass shootings are black on black. Explain the political motivation for blacks to kill each other please?

According to your definition, terrorism always is. I'm saying it isn't.

That's not my definition, that is the actual definition of terrorism. Mass shootings are not always politically motivated. Most of the time, they have to do with drugs, gangs, jilted lovers, etc..

 

[Esmeralda]

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

Mass shooters are terrorists, saying anything else is just semantics. They intimidate and they terrorize, and they are almost always white.

To dismiss the violence of these murderers because of semantics is something the rightwing gun nuts like to do. They like to dismiss all the murders done by mass shooters here because they are pro-gun.

Well it can't be dismissed or denied. They intimidate and terrorize, and they have killed more than 600 people in America since 1982. It may be convenient for you to dismiss all those lost souls so you can fuel your hated of Muslims and protect your love of guns, but that does not change the fact that mass shooters kill hundreds of people, they terrorize and they intimidate.

Who dismissed their violence? I don't have to call someone a terrorist to acknowledge that they're violent. You're being ridiculous. You need to detach your emotions from the meaning of the word, because they have nothing to do with each other. Like I said, I get that mass shooters are bad, and terrorists are bad, but that doesn't make them the same.

I also don't hate muslims or love guns. The fact that I value accurate terminology when it comes to political and philosophical conversations doesn't mean that I like violence or hate anyone. Stop trying to attach negative bullshit to people who disagree with you. Find a better way to ease your intellectual insecurity than by fabricating some weird moral high ground based on thoughts in your head, it's very unbecoming.

You are the one with intellectual insecurity if you have to cling to a definition that doesn't accurately encompass the reality,

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI

For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:

"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

White American terrorists (including mass shooters) kill far more people in America than so called Islamic terrorists.

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

It's a semantic issue about their politics. In fact, they do have social or political aims, always, whether it's about bullying or hatred of the government, they do have an agenda, just each one has their own singular agenda. We cannot dismiss the fact that people are intimated, frightened and terrorized by these people. Why are kids afraid to go to school? Why have schools and other venues instituted lockdown procedures? Why is there added security at schools, movie theatres, malls, etc.? Why do more people want hand guns to carry with them when they go out in public? Why do people suggest teachers should be armed? This is terrorism. Plain and simple.

Call it semantic if you want, the fact of the matter is that words have meanings. I'm sorry if that fact is inconvenient to your labelling habits.

It's an interesting attempt that you've made to conflate the two by pointing out that they all have "social or political aims". The definition of terrorism isn't about social aims. A guy who murders the romantic interest of a woman he's attracted to has social aims, that doesn't mean he's a terrorist.

Also, though the word "terrorist" is based on the word "terror", the label of "terrorist" doesn't belong to anyone whose violence inspires fear. A guy who's 6'5", loudly spoken and prone to outbursts of physical violence tends to inspire fear in those around him, that doesn't make him a terrorist.

You don't get to redefine a word to your personal standards just because you liken politics to social dynamics, or because you feel that the root word should be of greater consideration. Your opinions are not what set the standards for the English language.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Non Hispanic white people make up 61.3 percent of the population, according to census bureau data. Racially, the next closest demographic is Hispanic/Latino, which comprises 17.8 percent of the population. Essentially, there are over 3x as many white people as any other race in the nation. Muslims, obviously not a race, represent 0.9 percent of the US population.

If the group that makes up 61.3 percent didn't have more instances of ANYTHING than a group that makes up 0.9 percent of the population, that would be fucking miraculous.

Anyway, go back and find those numbers of people killed by white terrorists and people killed by Muslim terrorists in the US. If the number of people killed by white terrorists is about 68 times as high as the number of people killed by Muslim terrorists, then you can rightly say that the white population is statistically as prone to terrorist murder as is the Muslim population.

Also, a lot of mass shooters aren't terrorists. The term, terrorist, only applies to people committing their acts of violence for political reasons.

Mass shooters are terrorists.

Not necessarily. I get that mass shooters are really bad, and terrorists are really bad, but that doesn't make them both same same. Terrorist has a specific definition.

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

1. 1.
   a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists"
   synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More
   revolutionary, radical, insurgent, guerrilla, anarchist, freedom fighter;
   bomber, gunman, assassin, hijacker, arsonist, incendiary
   "the detainees are suspected terrorists"

adjective
adjective: terrorist

1. 1.
   unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
   "a terrorist organization"

Most of the mass shooters that were majorly publicized in this country made ZERO indication of political aims.

Please, stop using words with specific meanings like they're synonyms for "bad guy". Have a little respect for truth and accuracy.

Mass shooters are terrorists, saying anything else is just semantics. They intimidate and they terrorize, and they are almost always white.

To dismiss the violence of these murderers because of semantics is something the rightwing gun nuts like to do. They like to dismiss all the murders done by mass shooters here because they are pro-gun.

Well it can't be dismissed or denied. They intimidate and terrorize, and they have killed more than 600 people in America since 1982. It may be convenient for you to dismiss all those lost souls so you can fuel your hated of Muslims and protect your love of guns, but that does not change the fact that mass shooters kill hundreds of people, they terrorize and they intimidate.

Who dismissed their violence? I don't have to call someone a terrorist to acknowledge that they're violent. You're being ridiculous. You need to detach your emotions from the meaning of the word, because they have nothing to do with each other. Like I said, I get that mass shooters are bad, and terrorists are bad, but that doesn't make them the same.

I also don't hate muslims or love guns. The fact that I value accurate terminology when it comes to political and philosophical conversations doesn't mean that I like violence or hate anyone. Stop trying to attach negative bullshit to people who disagree with you. Find a better way to ease your intellectual insecurity than by fabricating some weird moral high ground based on thoughts in your head, it's very unbecoming.

You are the one with intellectual insecurity if you have to cling to a definition that doesn't accurately encompass the reality,

How does it not encompass the reality? The term, "terrorist", was coined to SPECIFICALLY describe people who target civilians for political reasons. The fact that you really don't like mass shooters and want to call them terrorists doesn't necessitate that the definition of "terrorist" be expanded.

I'm not clinging to anything, just pointing out that a word's definition is, in fact, the word's definition. You can try to reframe this conversation all you want, but the fact of the matter is you're flatly incorrect about mass shooters all being terrorists. I'm sorry that makes you so uncomfortable.

 

[Correll]

mudwhistle

btw- that girl wasn't part of any 'antifa'. they had a permit to protest where they were marching. AND... btw.... as a side note..... 'antifa' = antifascist. violence does not = antifacism.

HOWEVER.... you siding with president tribblehead over his tweet about jailing or stripping American citizenship for those who protest by burning the flag is the epitome of.... dare i say it?......

FASCISM.

i do want to thank you though, lenny... for giving the class a great example of irony.

Why do they look like dictators?

Niote you are quite wrong.

Antifa does NOTequal anti fascist.

Charlottesville was the only recent event where antifa opposed nazis and of course nazis and fascists are not the same thing.

Antifa violently attempted to silence Ann Coulter who is not a fascist or nazi by any reasonable definition.
Antifa violently attempted to silence Milo who is no fascist or nazi by an reasonable definition.
Antifa attempted so silence Ben Shapiro who is no nazi or fascist by any stretch of the imagination.

And of course the violently oppose trump who is no nazi or fascist.

antifa = anti first amendment. Essentially if you are slightly to the right of pol pot in your political views antifa wishes to silence you.

This is because antifa overwhelmingly is made up of communists it is a communist group.

None of this of course excuses any violence from right wingers and yes they are just as bad.

However to condemn one of them while ignoring the other is just hypocrisy.

And anyone that says Ann, or Milo or Trump are Nazis are


a filthy liars

and


b. makes excuses for violent marxist thugs.

milo & ann have every right to spew their pablum. those that try to shut it down thru means other than peaceful counter protests are wrong. antifa are extremists. those that embrace pepe have wet dreams about being as extreme & some are ratcheting it up.

Antifa are extremists, who have denied people their right to speech though violence.


Thank you for admitting that.




Those various administrators and local politicians that enable them by stunts such as ordering the police to stand down, or


who use antifa as an excuse to shut down speech, whatever their rhetoric



are just as extreme.


Those who insist that antifa are good because they are "anti-fascist" are supporting violence as a form of political action, and are quite extreme.



That seems pretty common from the libs on this site.

 

[Correll]

Amtrak terror suspect also attended "alt-right" event in Charlottesville, according to FBI



For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:



"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events."



"The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone."

I wonder if the experience of having the police told to stand down while lefties thugs attacked him, is what radicalized him to the point of violence?



Also, I've never met an alt-rightie who was anti-semitic.

lol.... oh please. are you kidding?

unless they are being an internet warrior, or are among their own ilk - who's gonna admit that they are? how many of those assholes down in charlottesville let on they are the vile creatures that they are? some got fired or even thrown out of families after they were exposed thru social media; which means their families &work environments had no clue what they were.

They won't admit it.


They would spin it, but make their positions plain.


Ie, "I'm not anti-semitic, I'n anti-zionist, or I don't want US tax dollars doing this, or it's practical to not piss off arabs or some such shit".



The vast majority of people I've met who could be counted "alt right" did none of that. THey don't give a shit. About jews.


That's why you get shit like the "unite the right" to save the statues.


Because the white supremacist/nazis are a desperate tiny faction, trying so hard to inflate their numbers and importance.

those hate groups are growing in numbers big time.

Hate Map

1. The SPLC is not a reliable source.


2. Tracking numbers of organizations is not the way to track the problem, as most of those are tiny and/or have overlapping memberships. Tracking it this way, gives an appearance of "explosive rise" without in any way really supporting that claim.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

mudwhistle

btw- that girl wasn't part of any 'antifa'. they had a permit to protest where they were marching. AND... btw.... as a side note..... 'antifa' = antifascist. violence does not = antifacism.

HOWEVER.... you siding with president tribblehead over his tweet about jailing or stripping American citizenship for those who protest by burning the flag is the epitome of.... dare i say it?......

FASCISM.

i do want to thank you though, lenny... for giving the class a great example of irony.

Why do they look like dictators?

Niote you are quite wrong.

Antifa does NOTequal anti fascist.

Charlottesville was the only recent event where antifa opposed nazis and of course nazis and fascists are not the same thing.

Antifa violently attempted to silence Ann Coulter who is not a fascist or nazi by any reasonable definition.
Antifa violently attempted to silence Milo who is no fascist or nazi by an reasonable definition.
Antifa attempted so silence Ben Shapiro who is no nazi or fascist by any stretch of the imagination.

And of course the violently oppose trump who is no nazi or fascist.

antifa = anti first amendment. Essentially if you are slightly to the right of pol pot in your political views antifa wishes to silence you.

This is because antifa overwhelmingly is made up of communists it is a communist group.

None of this of course excuses any violence from right wingers and yes they are just as bad.

However to condemn one of them while ignoring the other is just hypocrisy.

who are you kidding? trump embraces fascism. fascism is anti free speech. the extremists use fascism to suppress fascism. ya- that's a weird one. however, i was stating what 'antifa' meant in terms of what they call themselves. doesn't change the fact there was no discrepancy in my post to lenny.

Wrong trump is many things but he is no fascist by any reasonable definition nor does he embrace it creating huge glaring discrepancies in your uninformed statement

I agree..Trump is no Fascist..but he'd be one if our system would let him..you can believe that..He would love to be the Supreme Ruler..but it will never happen.

You do know the Fascism is one person Right wing dictatorship right? Not so stupid as to believe that bullshit about Fascism being left wing, I hope. Only real dupes believe that.

Wrong.

fascism is not one person dictatorship. Fascism is more complicated than that and yes it is considered a right wing ideology but plenty of left wingers would love to be one person dictatorships as well.

Definition of FASCISM

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

 

[Correll]

Niote you are quite wrong.

Antifa does NOTequal anti fascist.

Charlottesville was the only recent event where antifa opposed nazis and of course nazis and fascists are not the same thing.

Antifa violently attempted to silence Ann Coulter who is not a fascist or nazi by any reasonable definition.
Antifa violently attempted to silence Milo who is no fascist or nazi by an reasonable definition.
Antifa attempted so silence Ben Shapiro who is no nazi or fascist by any stretch of the imagination.

And of course the violently oppose trump who is no nazi or fascist.

antifa = anti first amendment. Essentially if you are slightly to the right of pol pot in your political views antifa wishes to silence you.

This is because antifa overwhelmingly is made up of communists it is a communist group.

None of this of course excuses any violence from right wingers and yes they are just as bad.

However to condemn one of them while ignoring the other is just hypocrisy.

who are you kidding? trump embraces fascism. fascism is anti free speech. the extremists use fascism to suppress fascism. ya- that's a weird one. however, i was stating what 'antifa' meant in terms of what they call themselves. doesn't change the fact there was no discrepancy in my post to lenny.

Wrong trump is many things but he is no fascist by any reasonable definition nor does he embrace it creating huge glaring discrepancies in your uninformed statement

I agree..Trump is no Fascist..but he'd be one if our system would let him..you can believe that..He would love to be the Supreme Ruler..but it will never happen.

You do know the Fascism is one person Right wing dictatorship right? Not so stupid as to believe that bullshit about Fascism being left wing, I hope. Only real dupes believe that.

Wrong.

fascism is not one person dictatorship. Fascism is more complicated than that and yes it is considered a right wing ideology but plenty of left wingers would love to be one person dictatorships as well.

Definition of FASCISM

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Do you realize that nothing in your post disputes what SUnni says?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

ANTIFA vs BLM

ANTIFA's message to BLM.

BLM's message to ANTIFA.

Yeah Blacks don't like you very much either, ANTIFA.

Antifa message to Spencer...and the Alt/right

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

who are you kidding? trump embraces fascism. fascism is anti free speech. the extremists use fascism to suppress fascism. ya- that's a weird one. however, i was stating what 'antifa' meant in terms of what they call themselves. doesn't change the fact there was no discrepancy in my post to lenny.

Wrong trump is many things but he is no fascist by any reasonable definition nor does he embrace it creating huge glaring discrepancies in your uninformed statement

I agree..Trump is no Fascist..but he'd be one if our system would let him..you can believe that..He would love to be the Supreme Ruler..but it will never happen.

You do know the Fascism is one person Right wing dictatorship right? Not so stupid as to believe that bullshit about Fascism being left wing, I hope. Only real dupes believe that.

Wrong.

fascism is not one person dictatorship. Fascism is more complicated than that and yes it is considered a right wing ideology but plenty of left wingers would love to be one person dictatorships as well.

Definition of FASCISM

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Do you realize that nothing in your post disputes what SUnni says?

I was not disputing..as he said it was more complicated..I sought to un-complicate it and present a clear definition.
Not everything is antagonistic...at least..not everything I post..can't speak for others.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

ANTIFA vs BLM

ANTIFA's message to BLM.

BLM's message to ANTIFA.

Yeah Blacks don't like you very much either, ANTIFA.

 

[Correll]

ANTIFA vs BLM

ANTIFA's message to BLM.

BLM's message to ANTIFA.

Yeah Blacks don't like you very much either, ANTIFA.

What is your point? THat antifa are cowardly shits?