frigidweirdo
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Germany is better than here eh? Ok.
Now, give Germany the logistical problems of the US and see if their system is better.
You think the German government is not influenced by big business?
Holy shit.
Let me give some examples
The US govt has possibly billions of $1 coins sat somewhere unused. They can't use them. Zimbabwe wants to use them, but that can't happen. The US people could use them, but that can't happen because of the dollar bills.
You know why they won't get rid of dollar bills and save millions/billions of dollars? Because one company goes to their senators and says "hey, don't get rid of the dollar bills". So they don't.
Yeah, ONE COMPANY can waste millions/billions of dollars or tax payers money just so they can keep their profits.
Whereas in Germany, they changed from the Deutsche-mark to the Euro, easy as. They didn't let big business get in the way and stop it happening. It helped their economy massively, it benefited smaller companies and bigger companies.
Some people weren't happy, but it happened. Oh, and their economy is BOOMING.
German unemployment
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US uenmployment rate
Let's play spot the difference.
Oh, and the German rate includes East Germany which the West took on board and spend more than 20 years trying to sort out and having it as a big problem stuck on the side. East German unemployment is higher than West German unemployment right now. So imagine what West German's unemployment rate is right now.
What about healthcare? Canada spends 15% on admin, the US spends 30%. Corruption with doctors and drugs companies is massive. Hence why the US spends more than double per capita than any other country in the world on healthcare.
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The Germans spend a lot less than the US.
http://www.who.int/gho/publications/world_health_statistics/EN_WHS2013_Part3.pdf?ua=1
Life expectancy - Germany 81 in 2011 : US 79 in 2011 (see 1)
Immunizations - Germany about 99% in 2011 : US about 88-94% (see 4)
Population using improved drinking water sources - Germany 100% in 2011 : US 99% in 2011 (see 5)
Physicians - Germany 36.9 : US 24.2 (see 6)
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Health system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Infant mortality - Germany 3.48 : US 5.9
Preventable deaths per 100,000- Germany 76 : US 96
But this isn't me saying the US govt is totally bad. It's bad, it's corrupt, nothing seems to move unless it involves killing, invading or "US interests" (read oil and other resources). Germany isn't exactly a country that doesn't have problems. Sure it has problems, the US has problems. This is a comparison. The comparison is this. The German govts generally look after their people. They make sure education is about the people, health is about the people, many, many issues are about the people.
In the US issues aren't about the people. Not one bit. They about the big money that pours into the politicians's coffers.
Political spending in Germany
Party finance in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In the 2006-2009 election cycle the 6 political parties spent 1.8 billion (about $2.4 billion)
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The US spend nearly $7 billion, mainly from 2 political parties. Now the population of Germany is 80 million and the US is 300 million, so about 3.5 times larger. So the spending isn't much different. However for Germany this is about 6 political parties to the US's 2.
The main 2 parties in an election year can spend about 200 million, and smaller parties 40 million.
However this gets away from the point I'm making. The US has a problem, the two main parties have a monopoly and make the most of this and have become stagnant and corrupt.