Who gave the order ??

[Procrustes Stretched]

Peter Kirsenow;

"Shortly after the terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, a local Denver television personality asked President Obama what actions he took upon learning of the assault. The president asserted, “I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.”

As to the first directive, we now know from Greg Hicks’s testimony that special forces were ordered to stand down rather than provide assistance....

A matter of opinion taken out of context?

Rather than provide what assistance exactly?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

As to directive No. 2, if the administration was so keen on investigating what happened, why did it impede Representative Jason Chaffetz’s attempts to...

...to turn it into a partisan political ploy masquerading as an honest search for truth?

I wonder

 

[percysunshine]

Peter Kirsenow;

"Shortly after the terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, a local Denver television personality asked President Obama what actions he took upon learning of the assault. The president asserted, “I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.”

As to the first directive, we now know from Greg Hicks’s testimony that special forces were ordered to stand down rather than provide assistance....

A matter of opinion taken out of context?

Rather than provide what assistance exactly?

The cool thing is that tapes (well, digital recordings) exist to answer that question. Exactly, verbatim, what was said.

Both the NSA, State, and probably White House communications. I hope nothing has been erased.

 

[percysunshine]

As to directive No. 2, if the administration was so keen on investigating what happened, why did it impede Representative Jason Chaffetz’s attempts to...

...to turn it into a partisan political ploy masquerading as an honest search for truth?

I wonder

Bwaaaahaahaa....you are funny. The truth was the first casualty. Five Sunday talk shows Dante....five political Pinocchio ploys.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Peter Kirsenow;

"Shortly after the terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, a local Denver television personality asked President Obama what actions he took upon learning of the assault. The president asserted, “I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.”

As to the first directive, we now know from Greg Hicks’s testimony that special forces were ordered to stand down rather than provide assistance....

A matter of opinion taken out of context?

Rather than provide what assistance exactly?

The cool thing is that tapes (well, digital recordings) exist to answer that question. Exactly, verbatim, what was said.

Both the NSA, State, and probably White House communications. I hope nothing has been erased.

seek some help and some bed rest. this isn't watergate and no crime was committed

 

[percysunshine]

A matter of opinion taken out of context?

Rather than provide what assistance exactly?

The cool thing is that tapes (well, digital recordings) exist to answer that question. Exactly, verbatim, what was said.

Both the NSA, State, and probably White House communications. I hope nothing has been erased.

seek some help and some bed rest. this isn't watergate and no crime was committed

How do we know no crime was committed without investigating what happened? Trust Hillary? Dante...give up....say 'Uncle'....chuckle

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

I can just vision the Obama Movie now, when they get to 2012, and all hell breaks loose in Benghazi, I see Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson as the two individuals telling Hillary/Susan Rice (Played By Kathy Griffin and Paris Hilton) Jack: I Need You To Lie Madam Clinton!!! Hillary: But I Cannot Tell An Un-Truth To My Fellow Americans On Live Televison !!! YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH !!!

 

[yidnar]

Tyrone Woods is a hero !! I wonder if the White House will award him a medal for his unselfish bravery ??

 

[bripat9643]

As to directive No. 2, if the administration was so keen on investigating what happened, why did it impede Representative Jason Chaffetz’s attempts to...

...to turn it into a partisan political ploy masquerading as an honest search for truth?

I wonder

I think you're wondering if your brain surgeon used an ice-cream scoop to empty the contents of your skull. I have never seen such lame or transparent attempts to deflect from the most obvious facts imaginable.

 

[Freewill]

I see this as going no where, Obama will slip the hook again.

But then again can someone specifically name the law that was broken? I realize that 4 of our men died needlessly, that is fact. But if we are going to hold Obama responsible then we need to hold every president responsible for the wars that our men died in. I would think to prove a crime then there would have to be evidence that they knew this was going to happen for sure, they knew that the consulate would not withstand an attack and they sent then any way. I doubt that can be proved.

Unfortunately the downright lying to the American people has not been made against the law. So no matter how much Obama lied it ain't a crime, unless it is a coverup of a crime.

That said, killing American citizens without due process or without them being charged with a crime, now that in my opinion is a crime to which this administration is very guilty.

 

[edthecynic]

Peter Kirsenow;

As to the first directive, we now know from Greg Hicks’s testimony that special forces were ordered to stand down rather than provide assistance. Furthermore, we learned months ago from Jennifer Griffin’s reporting that former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods requested and was denied backup three times, and was told to stand down. Who, then, gave the orders that flatly rejected the president’s “very clear directive?” Was that person disciplined for flagrantly disobeying the commander in chief?

The only way Hicks could know that the phantom "stand down" order was given would be if HE gave it.

As far as the Woods claim, if he was told 3 times to stand down, why would he have expected a plane to bomb the place he lit up with his laser????? The laser story contradicts any stand down order. They both can't be true!!! They are mutually exclusive.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

and when are they gonna drill Barry? isn't he the one who walked away and let them die?

 

[yidnar]

and when are they gonna drill Barry? isn't he the one who walked away and let them die?

the question is will Hillary allow herself to be thrown under the bus to protect Obama ?? me thinks not ...

 

[Crackerjaxon]

and when are they gonna drill Barry? isn't he the one who walked away and let them die?

the question is will Hillary allow herself to be thrown under the bus to protect Obama ?? me thinks not ...

I expect a sane person will emerge from the Democratic Party to pick up the pieces and advise the president to resign. As the Benghazi investigation goes deeper into things, I believe Barack Hussein Obama will resign for the good of the country. Since Joe Biden was implicit in the cover-up, his position will be dicey.

I expect that somehere a deal will be made to allow Biden to assume the presidency with little, if any, real power.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

> Crackhead expects the president to resign - see above

Right. HA HA HA, that is by far the funniest post in my time posting here.

But I digress...

we all knew there was a cover up ,and that the administration lied about the attack saying it was a spontaneous demonstration caused by a video that got out of hand ......now that we have confirmation from people on the ground in Benghazi stating that the state dept was told in real time during the attack that it was a terror attack the 2 questions that need to asked are ...

1. who ordered Ambassador Rice to lie to the American people ?
2. who gave the order for help to stand down during the attack ?

Until these questions are answered this is all about corporatists waving the metaphoric bloody flag inciting white trash to bray at the moon over Bengasi.

Pure speculation on question 1, but my money says no one ordered Rice to lie. Like her mentor, Ms Clinton, Rice has always been a pathological liar. These people have more contempt for American rabble than the Romneys did. Similarly one hopes a service person got some film of a meeting and is waiting to profit from it. More likely Rice talked it over with Clinton and got a verbal consent to manage it as she did. Permission is different from an order.

Question two is big casino. Without a name, this issue is a joke.

 

[Redfish]

A matter of opinion taken out of context?

Rather than provide what assistance exactly?

The cool thing is that tapes (well, digital recordings) exist to answer that question. Exactly, verbatim, what was said.

Both the NSA, State, and probably White House communications. I hope nothing has been erased.

seek some help and some bed rest. this isn't watergate and no crime was committed

maybe not a crime, but a violation of the oath of office of the president and secstate. The stand down order had to come from the very top----barry, hilly, or both.

the truth will eventually come out, and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[HUGGY]

Who gave the order ??

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[Crackerjaxon]

> Crackhead expects the president to resign - see above

Right. HA HA HA, that is by far the funniest post in my time posting here.

But I digress...

we all knew there was a cover up ,and that the administration lied about the attack saying it was a spontaneous demonstration caused by a video that got out of hand ......now that we have confirmation from people on the ground in Benghazi stating that the state dept was told in real time during the attack that it was a terror attack the 2 questions that need to asked are ...

1. who ordered Ambassador Rice to lie to the American people ?
2. who gave the order for help to stand down during the attack ?

Until these questions are answered this is all about corporatists waving the metaphoric bloody flag inciting white trash to bray at the moon over Bengasi.

Pure speculation on question 1, but my money says no one ordered Rice to lie. Like her mentor, Ms Clinton, Rice has always been a pathological liar. These people have more contempt for American rabble than the Romneys did. Similarly one hopes a service person got some film of a meeting and is waiting to profit from it. More likely Rice talked it over with Clinton and got a verbal consent to manage it as she did. Permission is different from an order.

Question two is big casino. Without a name, this issue is a joke.

"Pure speculation on question 1, but my money says no one ordered Rice to lie."

Now, that's pretty damned funny.

Well sure, she mavericked out on her own.

Yeah, that's it. Has to be.

 

[Redfish]

> Crackhead expects the president to resign - see above

Right. HA HA HA, that is by far the funniest post in my time posting here.

But I digress...

we all knew there was a cover up ,and that the administration lied about the attack saying it was a spontaneous demonstration caused by a video that got out of hand ......now that we have confirmation from people on the ground in Benghazi stating that the state dept was told in real time during the attack that it was a terror attack the 2 questions that need to asked are ...

1. who ordered Ambassador Rice to lie to the American people ?
2. who gave the order for help to stand down during the attack ?

Until these questions are answered this is all about corporatists waving the metaphoric bloody flag inciting white trash to bray at the moon over Bengasi.

Pure speculation on question 1, but my money says no one ordered Rice to lie. Like her mentor, Ms Clinton, Rice has always been a pathological liar. These people have more contempt for American rabble than the Romneys did. Similarly one hopes a service person got some film of a meeting and is waiting to profit from it. More likely Rice talked it over with Clinton and got a verbal consent to manage it as she did. Permission is different from an order.

Question two is big casino. Without a name, this issue is a joke.

"Pure speculation on question 1, but my money says no one ordered Rice to lie."

Now, that's pretty damned funny.

Well sure, she mavericked out on her own.

Yeah, that's it. Has to be.

Who had even heard of susan rice before she was sent out to be the scapegoat for the incompetence of the obama administration?

why did they pick her? expendible?

 

[edthecynic]

The cool thing is that tapes (well, digital recordings) exist to answer that question. Exactly, verbatim, what was said.

Both the NSA, State, and probably White House communications. I hope nothing has been erased.

seek some help and some bed rest. this isn't watergate and no crime was committed

maybe not a crime, but a violation of the oath of office of the president and secstate. The stand down order had to come from the very top----barry, hilly, or both.

the truth will eventually come out, and let the chips fall where they may.

The truth is there was no stand down order, Hicks made it up or gave it himself. The Pentagon has already denied it, but that will never stop the Right from lying about it. Face it, you assholes have been had yet again by the GOP hate media!!!

Whistle-blowers: Rescue requests denied in Libya attack

Maj. Robert Firman, a Pentagon spokesman, said Monday, "There was never any kind of stand-down order to anybody."