JakeStarkey
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LTCArmyRtd demonstrates a common failing to many career officers: pontificating on that which he knows little.
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You missed the point completely!!! You missed the most important part of all those entities you listed, they are not industries! The health care industry represented 6% of the GDP.
Banks aren't industries? Road Construction isn't an industry?
Is the purpose of health care to generate a profit? Does health care create net wealth? No. Of course not. Most other developed nations realized this a long time ago (most as in all others except the USA...) and we're the caboose at the end finally inching our way to the modern age.
Socialism, whether in entities or industry, is not a bad thing.
While we're at it, oh look....health care cost inflation hits historic low...hmm, wonder why, oh yeah, ACA.
Health inflation hits historic low. A victory for Obamacare?
Get shot down, change your tune, I see how you play your game. You didn't say banking industry, you listed FDIC insurance, big difference. You listed interstate road system, not road construction, big difference. But to answer your question, no, those are not "industries". Quit while your ahead, you know nothing of economics, much less what an industry is.
And pardon me if I call bullshit on your statement about "health care inflation". There is no such thing, there is just inflation.
Yes the ACA has a tone of socialism in it.
So does the Police Force
So does most Fire Departments
So does the Postal Service
So do public Libraries
So does mandatory ER care
So do interstate highway systems
So does FDIC insurance
There's actually a LOT of socialism in modern day nations. The word "Socialist" is just so vilified by modern day corporatist that it's practically become taboo. Being socialist...by itself...is not a bad thing.
If you want a "every man for himself, dog eat dog" place to live....go live in Somalia.
You missed the point completely!!! You missed the most important part of all those entities you listed, they are not industries! The health care industry represented 6% of the GDP.
Banks aren't industries? Road Construction isn't an industry?
Is the purpose of health care to generate a profit? Does health care create net wealth? No. Of course not. Most other developed nations realized this a long time ago (most as in all others except the USA...) and we're the caboose at the end finally inching our way to the modern age.
Socialism, whether in entities or industry, is not a bad thing.
While we're at it, oh look....health care cost inflation hits historic low...hmm, wonder why, oh yeah, ACA.
Health inflation hits historic low. A victory for Obamacare?
You missed the point completely!!! You missed the most important part of all those entities you listed, they are not industries! The health care industry represented 6% of the GDP.
Banks aren't industries? Road Construction isn't an industry?
Is the purpose of health care to generate a profit? Does health care create net wealth? No. Of course not. Most other developed nations realized this a long time ago (most as in all others except the USA...) and we're the caboose at the end finally inching our way to the modern age.
Socialism, whether in entities or industry, is not a bad thing.
While we're at it, oh look....health care cost inflation hits historic low...hmm, wonder why, oh yeah, ACA.
Health inflation hits historic low. A victory for Obamacare?
Cuba and venezuela want you back.
Banks aren't industries? Road Construction isn't an industry?
Is the purpose of health care to generate a profit? Does health care create net wealth? No. Of course not. Most other developed nations realized this a long time ago (most as in all others except the USA...) and we're the caboose at the end finally inching our way to the modern age.
Socialism, whether in entities or industry, is not a bad thing.
While we're at it, oh look....health care cost inflation hits historic low...hmm, wonder why, oh yeah, ACA.
Health inflation hits historic low. A victory for Obamacare?
Cuba and venezuela want you back.
OooooOOOOooo...."Socialism" I just said a bad word! Guess I have to go sit in the corner now.
I know that scares you people.
Cuba and venezuela want you back.
OooooOOOOooo...."Socialism" I just said a bad word! Guess I have to go sit in the corner now.
I know that scares you people.
Its just that I want no part of your dysfunctional utopian dream.
OooooOOOOooo...."Socialism" I just said a bad word! Guess I have to go sit in the corner now.
I know that scares you people.
Its just that I want no part of your dysfunctional utopian dream.
Okay, no more police or postal service for you I guess. Try not to drive on any highways either.
Its just that I want no part of your dysfunctional utopian dream.
Okay, no more police or postal service for you I guess. Try not to drive on any highways either.
Police are funded locally. Not a problem. I like the postal service but I would survive if they weren't around. Also, I pay for the roads, which are built by a contractor who submits the lowest bid, when I send a check in for my car registration.
LTCArmyRtd demonstrates a common failing to many career officers: pontificating on that which he knows little.
Just like in 2010, and just like in 2006. Those who are happy with how things are going for themselves will probably just sit it out. And those who are furious, pissed off at their President, those are the ones who will stampede to their precincts ASAP!
And Nancy Pelosi doesn't see any of this coming?
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Banks aren't industries? Road Construction isn't an industry?
Is the purpose of health care to generate a profit? Does health care create net wealth? No. Of course not. Most other developed nations realized this a long time ago (most as in all others except the USA...) and we're the caboose at the end finally inching our way to the modern age.
Socialism, whether in entities or industry, is not a bad thing.
While we're at it, oh look....health care cost inflation hits historic low...hmm, wonder why, oh yeah, ACA.
Health inflation hits historic low. A victory for Obamacare?
Get shot down, change your tune, I see how you play your game. You didn't say banking industry, you listed FDIC insurance, big difference. You listed interstate road system, not road construction, big difference. But to answer your question, no, those are not "industries". Quit while your ahead, you know nothing of economics, much less what an industry is.
And pardon me if I call bullshit on your statement about "health care inflation". There is no such thing, there is just inflation.
Your response was a meek little "they aren't industries like health care!" A small, insignificant little play on words, and you claim I'm changing my tune....okay.
Anyway.....FDIC is directly intertwined with banking, you can't have a secure personal banking system without FDIC. Road Construction is big money, and it's funded through *gasp* socialism. You and I both help pay for the interstates whether we use them or not. That's socialism, like it or not.
On your last point....yes there is such thing.
Get shot down, change your tune, I see how you play your game. You didn't say banking industry, you listed FDIC insurance, big difference. You listed interstate road system, not road construction, big difference. But to answer your question, no, those are not "industries". Quit while your ahead, you know nothing of economics, much less what an industry is.
And pardon me if I call bullshit on your statement about "health care inflation". There is no such thing, there is just inflation.
Your response was a meek little "they aren't industries like health care!" A small, insignificant little play on words, and you claim I'm changing my tune....okay.
Anyway.....FDIC is directly intertwined with banking, you can't have a secure personal banking system without FDIC. Road Construction is big money, and it's funded through *gasp* socialism. You and I both help pay for the interstates whether we use them or not. That's socialism, like it or not.
On your last point....yes there is such thing.
Never said FDIC wasn't intertwined with banking, which again is a change from what you listed as an industry. Road construction is big money, but not an industry for the very reason you listed, and listen carefully, IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
So based on your line of thought, is Social Security an Industry? Is Tax Revenue an industry? If they require the government to provide for their existence, IMO they are not an industry that contributes to the overall economic health of a nation.
Let me guess, you bought Obama's line.... hook, line and sinker of " you didn't build it", didn't you?
Your response was a meek little "they aren't industries like health care!" A small, insignificant little play on words, and you claim I'm changing my tune....okay.
Anyway.....FDIC is directly intertwined with banking, you can't have a secure personal banking system without FDIC. Road Construction is big money, and it's funded through *gasp* socialism. You and I both help pay for the interstates whether we use them or not. That's socialism, like it or not.
On your last point....yes there is such thing.
Never said FDIC wasn't intertwined with banking, which again is a change from what you listed as an industry. Road construction is big money, but not an industry for the very reason you listed, and listen carefully, IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
So based on your line of thought, is Social Security an Industry? Is Tax Revenue an industry? If they require the government to provide for their existence, IMO they are not an industry that contributes to the overall economic health of a nation.
Let me guess, you bought Obama's line.... hook, line and sinker of " you didn't build it", didn't you?
The Lt Colonel has now decided that any industry that builds items of war is a "socialist" industry. Am I understanding you correctly Col? I mean when an aircraft carrier is built, the government pays for it. Socialist. How about planes? Built by socialist companies? Of course they are. Other weapon systems, tanks, helicopters, etc, all built by socialist industries. Companies funded through the government.
Then why do the Republicans protect those socialist arms industries to the death against cuts?
and each day, the news just gets worse, and lets see just how busy wally world/target is after tanxgiving,,that will be a preview of 2014.
LTCArmyRtd demonstrates a common failing to many career officers: pontificating on that which he knows little.
You do that with your every post
Get shot down, change your tune, I see how you play your game. You didn't say banking industry, you listed FDIC insurance, big difference. You listed interstate road system, not road construction, big difference. But to answer your question, no, those are not "industries". Quit while your ahead, you know nothing of economics, much less what an industry is.
And pardon me if I call bullshit on your statement about "health care inflation". There is no such thing, there is just inflation.
Your response was a meek little "they aren't industries like health care!" A small, insignificant little play on words, and you claim I'm changing my tune....okay.
Anyway.....FDIC is directly intertwined with banking, you can't have a secure personal banking system without FDIC. Road Construction is big money, and it's funded through *gasp* socialism. You and I both help pay for the interstates whether we use them or not. That's socialism, like it or not.
On your last point....yes there is such thing.
Never said FDIC wasn't intertwined with banking, which again is a change from what you listed as an industry. Road construction is big money, but not an industry for the very reason you listed, and listen carefully, IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
So based on your line of thought, is Social Security an Industry? Is Tax Revenue an industry? If they require the government to provide for their existence, IMO they are not an industry that contributes to the overall economic health of a nation.
Let me guess, you bought Obama's line.... hook, line and sinker of " you didn't build it", didn't you?
Never said FDIC wasn't intertwined with banking, which again is a change from what you listed as an industry. Road construction is big money, but not an industry for the very reason you listed, and listen carefully, IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
So based on your line of thought, is Social Security an Industry? Is Tax Revenue an industry? If they require the government to provide for their existence, IMO they are not an industry that contributes to the overall economic health of a nation.
Let me guess, you bought Obama's line.... hook, line and sinker of " you didn't build it", didn't you?
The Lt Colonel has now decided that any industry that builds items of war is a "socialist" industry. Am I understanding you correctly Col? I mean when an aircraft carrier is built, the government pays for it. Socialist. How about planes? Built by socialist companies? Of course they are. Other weapon systems, tanks, helicopters, etc, all built by socialist industries. Companies funded through the government.
Then why do the Republicans protect those socialist arms industries to the death against cuts?
No, I have not now decided that any industry that builds items of war is a "socialist" industry, never said that, nice twist on words though. By taking an industry and subordinating it to the government is socialist. The military used to develop it's own weapons and I believe we should go back to that model. Part of the corruption, with the military in particular, have to do with defense contracting companies.
And as for why do Republicans protect those companies, probably the same reason the Democrats protect them. Virginia, California, Maryland, Florida are where a large portion of these companies are located, predominately Dem states.