Who is actually winning in Ukraine?

[skye]

Who is winning in Ukraine?

Not Ukraine.

 

[Toro]

Who is winning in Ukraine?

Not Ukraine.

LOL

Keep clinging, Nazi loser!

 

[Toro]

skye is on the side of Nazis



No surprise there!

LOL

 

[AZrailwhale]

I actually think that Ukraine will end up being a disastrous blunder for the US-EU. Russia doesn't really have to accomplish anything further. Military defeat is unlikely. Putin's narrative has ALWAYS been to secure the Donbass and Crimea regions into autonomous or wholly Russian Oblasts. It looks like Russia's moving to secure those interests now. Anything else for them would be gravy.

But I think there's a "Great Game" here that they anticipated, because they've been preparing for it for 7 years.

Russia wants to deal a death blow to EU-US "Eurodollar" reserve currency and SWIFT. And they have. The entire world watches as the EU begs and blatantly refuses to pay Russia for gas in Rubles (a deadline which ends with the April Futures contract and payments must begin April 1st for all later Futures contracts: Nuances).

What this does for China, India, African nations we prey upon, South America, everyone else not in the elite OECD club is show that they are slaves to the Eurodollar. An expensive, controlled and abused currency. Whenever the US takes too much debt, the US prints more dollars, European Union does the same.

But when crushing trade and unfair financial practices forces Nigeria into debt, in comes the IMF, the US Aircraft Carriers, and the tools of Empire, to force Nigeria, or whoever, to bow to the Eurodollar.

How is that fair? How is that free? How is that DEMOCRATIC?

It's not.

And with the simple refusal to pay a sovereign nation in their sovereign currency for their national resources......Russia has exposed the US-EU as an impotent imperialist power that has been bloodsucking the world for decades.

The world has watched and listened.

And the world will turn to China for a neutral 3rd party, as Putin has foretold.

A world with a basket of currencies, where each nation pays for a nation's goods/services in their currency, not in some global Empire currency.

This is the death blow to the US-EU.

The question is, is it working? I think we see the cracks, but it's too early for any columns to crumble. The US-EU empire can limp on, or even recover, if it plays its cards right.

No one thinks the idiots in charge now are competent enough, however.

If all Putin had wanted was the Donbas Oblast, he could have driven in unopposed, and the rebel government would have provided a fig leaf for his illegal occupation. Likely. the west would have done nothing but mutter complaints just as it did when he stole Ossetia from Georgia and Crimea from Ukraine earlier. Instead, he tried to steal a whole country, most of which wants nothing to do with a Russian occupation having learned its lesson in the hundred plus years of the last Russian occupation.

 

[badger2]

Who is winning in Ukraine?

Not Ukraine.

When one sees the phrase "slava ukraini," that's not the entire phrase. The rest is "death to all my enemies."

 

[badger2]

A zachistka 'cleansing' is now happening in the Donbas. Since the nazi-dem POSPOTUS and his POS son want the gas that's under the battlefield, Russia is responding. This is a map of the Yuzivka (Yuzivska) gas field. The rocket strike occurred at Kramatorsk train station just inside the gas-field perimeter:

Current ligitimate URL:
shalegas.in.ua/en/yuzivska-ploscha/

Alternate URL:

Yuzivska area | Unconventional Gas in Ukraine

Basic information on Yusivska area for tight sand gas extraction (Shell).

shalegas.in.ua

Second Alternate URL:

Yuzivska area | Unconventional Gas in Ukraine

Basic information on Yusivska area for tight sand gas extraction (Shell).

www.shalegas.in.ua

 

[badger2]

Kramatorsk is inside the notch. Russian 'p' = Eng. 'r'

 

[FA_Q2]

If all Putin had wanted was the Donbas Oblast, he could have driven in unopposed, and the rebel government would have provided a fig leaf for his illegal occupation. Likely. the west would have done nothing but mutter complaints just as it did when he stole Ossetia from Georgia and Crimea from Ukraine earlier. Instead, he tried to steal a whole country, most of which wants nothing to do with a Russian occupation having learned its lesson in the hundred plus years of the last Russian occupation.

This.

Putin made a grave error in trying to take all of Ukraine.

 

[badger2]

Yesterday on Skye's Nuland thread we mentioned Zelenskiy's advisor, Arestovych. This report for Kramatorsk spells Arestovych's name with a 'i,' and one must be cautious due to deliberate name mispellings, an issue brought up in Ukraine's Security Council meeting and the resulting sanctions, report extant in the media. Arestovich has also named those involved in Bucha as Russian 76th Airborne Assault Division.

2022 aprelia 8 Komsomolskaya Pravda

Буча-2: Почему именно Украина ударила «Точкой У» по вокзалу Краматорска

Около 30 погибших, 100 раненых… Атаку на людей Киев снова пытается списать на Россию. Но есть нестыковки

www.kp.ru

' "Rossii nanesla udar po vokzalu dvumia raketami opeerativeno-takticheskogo komplexa "Iskander," pogibli okolo 30 mirnykh zhitelei, bolee 11 ranenykh," po goriachim sledam zaiavil mestnyi glava voenno-grazhdanskoi administratsii.
Russia hit the train station with two missiles from the Iskander operational-tactical complex killing about 30 civilians, 100 more injured, said the local head of the military-civilian administration.

A za nim - i sovetnik Zelenskogo Arestovich.
And behind him - Zelenskiy's advisor, Arestovich.'

 

[badger2]

This.

Putin made a grave error in trying to take all of Ukraine.

It was never an error. Putin did not plan to take all of Ukraine.

 

[badger2]

3 Ap report from Radio Liberty Radio Europe on Arestovych:

2022 Ap 3

As Evidence Of War Crimes In Bucha Mounts, A Hunt For Russian Military Units

As workers struggle to clear the bodies of civilians from the streets of the Ukrainian town of Bucha, and investigators struggle to compile evidence, RFE/RL has pinpointed some of the Russian military units known to have occupied the city.

www.rferl.org

'....On 3 April, Oleskiy Arestovych, Zellenskiy's advisor published a list of Russian units, 104th and 234th Airborne Assault Regiments of the 76th Airborne Assault Division based in Pskov. Paratroopers of the 76th were accused of killing Chechen civilians indiscriminately during the Second Chechen War.

The social media post about the death of Bayur, the commander of the artillery unit was one piece of evidence pointing to the presence of the paratroopers in Bucha....artillery box was found.'

 

[badger2]

The Kramatorsk attack is being refuted, claiming the use of decades-old equipment:

Sputnik: Ukrainian Forces Strike Kramatorsk

Kramatorsk: Ukrainian Claims of Russian ‘Missile Attack’ on Railway Station Provocation - MoD

Earlier, the DPR office at the Joint Centre for Control and Coordination on ceasefire and stabilization of the demarcation line (JCCC) reported that Ukrainian units opened fire on the territory of the republic 32 times during the day.

sputniknews.com

 

[Orangecat]

Hell, there aint no telling how it is going over there.
You cant believe anything.

 

[badger2]

The report (post #132) states: 'Ukraine's military hit the station from Dobropilya settlement, located 45 km away, said the Russian Minister of Defense.' Map in post # 126 shows Dobropilya southwest of Kramatorsk, and gives an indication of scale.

 

[dblack]

Hell, there aint no telling how it is going over there.
You cant believe anything.

Truth is the first casualty of war. Or something like that.

 

[Toro]

 

[TNHarley]

Truth is the first casualty of war. Or something like that.

you must support pootin!

 

[TNHarley]

Some random on twitter could say that putins plane got shot down by a handgun by some 4 year old ukranian dead child and you would post it.
Honestly, you stupid people trip me out lol

 

[dblack]

you must support pootin!

Nah. I just don't think we need to resort to propaganda to thwart him.

What we need to do is actually remember that we're all on the same side. But that might not happen.

 

[badger2]

Ukraine gains at Kreminna, Malynivka and Osokorivka. Russia has increased presence between Crimea and the Dnipro River, setting up checkpoints around Nyzhni Sirohozy. Russia controls more of the forest west of Izyum and is able to launch attacks on the Balakliya-Hrushuvkha Road. Russia controls the Novotoshskivske/Zholobok area on the outskirts of the Donbas.