Who is to Blame for the Government Shutdown?

[Billy_Kinetta]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Thats not what Drumpf claimed.

Then Dem's refused to even discuss border security and took ownership of the shutdown, try to keep up.

No one needs keep up with your lie of the day Trump said he owns it ! Are you calling the press a liar? King dumb fuck
you are!

Not now he doesn’t dumbfuck! He is sitting in Washington ready to work. Where are the dumbasses DemonRats?

Unpacking from the cancelled trip.

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump will win this battle.

While democrats insist on ignoring the growing problems of deaths and drugs we’re seeing with a weak border, voters will eventually understand the importance of building a barrier.

The death and drugs problem is not being caused with a "weak border", and voters already understand that Trump is lying to them so he can get a "win". While Trump is going on about border security, 14,000 people died of opioid abuse. Closing the southern border, even if closing that border meant no drugs go in, will do almost nothing to stem the opioid deaths.

 

[tycho1572]

Trump will win this battle.

While democrats insist on ignoring the growing problems of deaths and drugs we’re seeing with a weak border, voters will eventually understand the importance of building a barrier.

The death and drugs problem is not being caused with a "weak border", and voters already understand that Trump is lying to them so he can get a "win". While Trump is going on about border security, 14,000 people died of opioid abuse. Closing the southern border, even if closing that border meant no drugs go in, will do almost nothing to stem the opioid deaths.

You should keep telling yourself whatever helps you sleep. The rest of us will keep insisting on better border security to curb the problems you clowns like to ignore.

 

[Rustic]

Wide open southern border...

Nowhere near as wide open as our northern border.

Lol
We don’t have diseased illegal aliens crossing freely in droves the northern border...

Diseased. Ah. Is that how you got in?

Lol
My ancestors were never anywhere else...

 

[Rustic]

Trump will win this battle.

While democrats insist on ignoring the growing problems of deaths and drugs we’re seeing with a weak border, voters will eventually understand the importance of building a barrier.

The death and drugs problem is not being caused with a "weak border", and voters already understand that Trump is lying to them so he can get a "win". While Trump is going on about border security, 14,000 people died of opioid abuse. Closing the southern border, even if closing that border meant no drugs go in, will do almost nothing to stem the opioid deaths.

Socialism encourages drug use/abuse

 

[WillowTree]

Trump will win this battle.

While democrats insist on ignoring the growing problems of deaths and drugs we’re seeing with a weak border, voters will eventually understand the importance of building a barrier.

The death and drugs problem is not being caused with a "weak border", and voters already understand that Trump is lying to them so he can get a "win". While Trump is going on about border security, 14,000 people died of opioid abuse. Closing the southern border, even if closing that border meant no drugs go in, will do almost nothing to stem the opioid deaths.

You should keep telling yourself whatever helps you sleep. The rest of us will keep insisting on better border security to curb the problems you clowns like to ignore.

No skin off her ass, she’s a Canadian.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

I selected Trump. And if you selected anyone else you're calling Trump a damn liar. Damn right unAmerican Right there.

 

[JBvM]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

“I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.” - Trump

 

[Asclepias]

Drumpf already claimed ownership of the shutdown and did so on national TV.

That was not the question!

That was the answer. If you dont like it thats your issue.

 

[candycorn]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Thats not what Drumpf claimed.

Then Dem's refused to even discuss border security and took ownership of the shutdown, try to keep up.

No one needs keep up with your lie of the day Trump said he owns it ! Are you calling the press a liar? King dumb fuck
you are!

Not now he doesn’t dumbfuck! He is sitting in Washington ready to work. Where are the dumbasses DemonRats?

Waiting for the Senate to do their job.

 

[candycorn]

Trump will win this battle.

While democrats insist on ignoring the growing problems of deaths and drugs we’re seeing with a weak border, voters will eventually understand the importance of building a barrier.

The death and drugs problem is not being caused with a "weak border", and voters already understand that Trump is lying to them so he can get a "win". While Trump is going on about border security, 14,000 people died of opioid abuse. Closing the southern border, even if closing that border meant no drugs go in, will do almost nothing to stem the opioid deaths.

Socialism encourages drug use/abuse

Capitalism, it would seem, is pretty good at encouraging it too. Or did you miss, well the 1960s through today?

 

[busybee01]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Thats not what Drumpf claimed.

Then Dem's refused to even discuss border security and took ownership of the shutdown, try to keep up.

Most Americans don't see the wall as a part of border security. This is still Trump's shutdown.

 

[busybee01]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

I cannot vote because you do not have an "all of the above".

Both sides are playing a stupid game with the lives of 800,000 people living without a paycheck.

Trump had two years of full control of both the house and the senate to work on his wall and he never pushed very hard for it...but as soon as the Dems win the House it is the only thing that matters.

The Dems will not even give in on the fence they supported for 20 years, so they too are fucking over those people.

The Dems offered $25 billion for a wall in exchange for DACA nearly a year ago. The fact is that Neither Senate Republicans nor Donald Trump thought it was important until the Rush Limbaughs of the world goaded him into this. If this was that important then why did he have to be goaded into this. The Dems have to stand firm because if they give in then he run over them every year. Dems have to protect the power of the purse that the House has. Congress has ceded too much power to the Executive Branch and it has to stop.

 

[busybee01]

Nancy Pelosi is a Loopy kunt, She has no sense of reality

You have no sense of reality. Americans do not want to build the wall.

 

[busybee01]

The President cannot authorize any appropriations. That is solely Congress' responsibility so if we have a minor shutdown like this it is on Pelosi and Schummer.

That is exactly what the Democrat led House is doing. It is the Republican led Senate and Trump that have refused to do their job.

 

[busybee01]

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

Evidently you fell off a turnip wagon. Again a fence is not a wall.

Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006

By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:

• Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
• Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
• Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.

Great, and what is your interpretation of Physical Barriers and authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing, ya fricken dimwit.

My interpretation is that its not a wall like you claimed you fucking idiot.

Don't really care if you call it a wall or a fence, ya fucking dimwit.

You are the typical Trump dimwit. A wall is very different from a fence

 

[22lcidw]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

I cannot vote because you do not have an "all of the above".

Both sides are playing a stupid game with the lives of 800,000 people living without a paycheck.

Trump had two years of full control of both the house and the senate to work on his wall and he never pushed very hard for it...but as soon as the Dems win the House it is the only thing that matters.

The Dems will not even give in on the fence they supported for 20 years, so they too are fucking over those people.

The Dems offered $25 billion for a wall in exchange for DACA nearly a year ago. The fact is that Neither Senate Republicans nor Donald Trump thought it was important until the Rush Limbaughs of the world goaded him into this. If this was that important then why did he have to be goaded into this. The Dems have to stand firm because if they give in then he run over them every year. Dems have to protect the power of the purse that the House has. Congress has ceded too much power to the Executive Branch and it has to stop.

You better talk to LBJ! That was 55 years ago. That angle is gone.

 

[busybee01]

This is another of those threads where the question in the title and the question in the poll are different questions!

My answer! Trump did own the shutdown. Pelosi now owns it by refusing to negotiate the wall!

This is now the Trump/McConnell shutdown. The voters agree with Pelosi not Trump.

 

[busybee01]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

I cannot vote because you do not have an "all of the above".

Both sides are playing a stupid game with the lives of 800,000 people living without a paycheck.

Trump had two years of full control of both the house and the senate to work on his wall and he never pushed very hard for it...but as soon as the Dems win the House it is the only thing that matters.

The Dems will not even give in on the fence they supported for 20 years, so they too are fucking over those people.

The Dems offered $25 billion for a wall in exchange for DACA nearly a year ago. The fact is that Neither Senate Republicans nor Donald Trump thought it was important until the Rush Limbaughs of the world goaded him into this. If this was that important then why did he have to be goaded into this. The Dems have to stand firm because if they give in then he run over them every year. Dems have to protect the power of the purse that the House has. Congress has ceded too much power to the Executive Branch and it has to stop.

You better talk to LBJ! That was 55 years ago. That angle is gone.

It was about 13 months ago that Democrats offered a compromise of $25 billion for the wall in exchange for DACA. You go talk to LBJ and show him what a idiot you are.

 

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Who is to Blame for the Government Shutdown?

Perhaps the mantle is getting uncomfortable...