Who Owns Your Children?

[NYcarbineer]

See? Your problem is you believe accusations are proof.

You asked for an example, dumb ass. You got it, so now you're moving the goal posts. Did you read her link?

I asked for an example that shows liberals are doing any of that. You post accusations AFTER I proved the author to be wrong on two points. So again, I ask you...Where is the fucking proof? I posted proof....You and the OP keep "forgetting" to provide yours.

Of course because to Kaz all PC has to do is say liberals are doing something and the mere formation of words is enough for Kaz to believe it

Our educational system is actually pretty dominated by conservatives, don't you think CC?

Fell short again, why do you believe something you cant prove?

I don't prove anything to you because you're a mindless ideologue, an authoritarian leftist. It cracks me up when you say things like this because you prove nothing ever and can't process information when you get it. You just bicker and say no it isn't. So I have fun with you. If you want me to provide you with support, you have to process it when I do.

He doesn't have to prove that it isn't, since neither you nor anyone else has offered a substantive argument that it is.

 

[ClosedCaption]

See? Your problem is you believe accusations are proof.

You asked for an example, dumb ass. You got it, so now you're moving the goal posts. Did you read her link?

I asked for an example that shows liberals are doing any of that. You post accusations AFTER I proved the author to be wrong on two points. So again, I ask you...Where is the fucking proof? I posted proof....You and the OP keep "forgetting" to provide yours.

Of course because to Kaz all PC has to do is say liberals are doing something and the mere formation of words is enough for Kaz to believe it

Our educational system is actually pretty dominated by conservatives, don't you think CC?

Fell short again, why do you believe something you cant prove?

I don't prove anything to you because you're a mindless ideologue, an authoritarian leftist.

Thats one reason another reason being because you dont have any proof.

It cracks me up when you say things like this because you prove nothing ever and can't process information when you get it. You just bicker and say no it isn't. So I have fun with you. If you want me to provide you with support, you have to process it when I do.

So why dont you finally giving any information and see if I can process it or not...because you dont have any information to begin with.

 

[Contumacious]

Then the Founders wanted public schools to indoctrinate the children in the US,,,sure buddy..

Excuse me dingle berry, can I call you db?

Which Founding Father suggested that children be COMPELLED to attend a government school? Which Founding Father suggested that parents be compelled to support government indoctrination?

EDUCATION dos NOT mean compelling an individual to attend school for 8 hours a day and for a total of 12 years being "taught" by individuals unknown to the parents.

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That was added later for corporate needs...

jefferson os one that wanted public schools and wanted them to be supported by public funds..

Thomas Jefferson did NOT support government education. He believed that children should be educated, as do I. But he believed in a DECENTRALIZED NON GOVERNMENT ENTITY providing the education.

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Jefferson wanted his decentralization to follow this suit.

"The key to local school districts, according to Jefferson, is that they give parents direct and ultimate control over how their children are educated. To suppose that schools will he better managed by “any authority of the government, than by the parents within each ward…is a belief against all experience.” A government can no more manage schools than it can manage “our farms, our mills, and merchants’ stores.” Elementary education should be the concern of local communities under the supervision of parents; it should not be controlled by the federal or state governments."


Could you imagine the parents ever agreeing as to what not and what should be taught at the schools.

They are their children !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[initforme]

Perhaps let's keep it in the hands of locals then because if corporations get control of education it will be even more messed up. Thney have done enough damage to this country.

 

[HenryBHough]

Here's how it should work:

Union leaders are screaming liberals.
Liberals are screaming for Columbus Day to go away.
Therefore union members should be required to ignore the holiday and go to friggin' work!

 

[Contumacious]

Perhaps let's keep it in the hands of locals then because if corporations get control of education it will be even more messed up. Thney have done enough damage to this country.

PRIVATELY owned corporations have? Pray tell us.

 

[NYcarbineer]

PC and some others might want to go back and read that tale.

 

[Tuatara]

Then the Founders wanted public schools to indoctrinate the children in the US,,,sure buddy..

Excuse me dingle berry, can I call you db?

Which Founding Father suggested that children be COMPELLED to attend a government school? Which Founding Father suggested that parents be compelled to support government indoctrination?

EDUCATION dos NOT mean compelling an individual to attend school for 8 hours a day and for a total of 12 years being "taught" by individuals unknown to the parents.

.

That was added later for corporate needs...

jefferson os one that wanted public schools and wanted them to be supported by public funds..

Thomas Jefferson did NOT support government education. He believed that children should be educated, as do I. But he believed in a DECENTRALIZED NON GOVERNMENT ENTITY providing the education.

.

Jefferson wanted his decentralization to follow this suit.

"The key to local school districts, according to Jefferson, is that they give parents direct and ultimate control over how their children are educated. To suppose that schools will he better managed by “any authority of the government, than by the parents within each ward…is a belief against all experience.” A government can no more manage schools than it can manage “our farms, our mills, and merchants’ stores.” Elementary education should be the concern of local communities under the supervision of parents; it should not be controlled by the federal or state governments."


Could you imagine the parents ever agreeing as to what not and what should be taught at the schools.

They are their children !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yes, take everyone in this thread and say all our children went to the same school. Do you really think we would all agree to the same education? Answer the damn question.

 

[Moonglow]

Here's how it should work:

Union leaders are screaming liberals.
Liberals are screaming for Columbus Day to go away.
Therefore union members should be required to ignore the holiday and go to friggin' work!

They do, how many cops are are the streets during holidays, firemen also? And they are unionized...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who gave you that lie about extending the depression?
Which history book told you that?

"Greatest President" What a joke that is. your stupid leftist hero worship Roosevelt extended the great depression and he could have save 100s of thousands of Jews, but the Jew hater refused

"Who gave you that lie about extending the depression?
Which history book told you that?"

Wise up.

I never lie....my posts are accurate and researched.
I provide sources.....as follows:



1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
The Real Deal - Society and Culture - AEI



So.....when can I expect your apology?

I already proved those claims of yours nonsense a couple years ago. Why are you bringing them back up. Are you really that ineducable?

The only thing you've ever proven is what a liar you are.

Here's the thread and the post:

Perspective How It All Happened Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Glad you provided that link....I'd like folks to read both of our post, so they can see what a dim-witted pile of ....pudding ....you are.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who gave you that lie about extending the depression?
Which history book told you that?

"Who gave you that lie about extending the depression?
Which history book told you that?"

Wise up.

I never lie....my posts are accurate and researched.
I provide sources.....as follows:



1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
The Real Deal - Society and Culture - AEI



So.....when can I expect your apology?

I already proved those claims of yours nonsense a couple years ago. Why are you bringing them back up. Are you really that ineducable?

The only thing you've ever proven is what a liar you are.

Here's the thread and the post:

Perspective How It All Happened Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Glad you provided that link....I'd like folks to read both of our post, so they can see what a dim-witted pile of ....pudding ....you are.

Is pudding what you people in the coprophage crowd call shit?

ewwwww....

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Who gave you that lie about extending the depression?
Which history book told you that?"

Wise up.

I never lie....my posts are accurate and researched.
I provide sources.....as follows:



1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
The Real Deal - Society and Culture - AEI



So.....when can I expect your apology?

I already proved those claims of yours nonsense a couple years ago. Why are you bringing them back up. Are you really that ineducable?

The only thing you've ever proven is what a liar you are.

Here's the thread and the post:

Perspective How It All Happened Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Glad you provided that link....I'd like folks to read both of our post, so they can see what a dim-witted pile of ....pudding ....you are.

Is pudding what you people in the coprophage crowd call shit?

ewwwww....

So...you accept your appellation?

Neat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I already proved those claims of yours nonsense a couple years ago. Why are you bringing them back up. Are you really that ineducable?

The only thing you've ever proven is what a liar you are.

Here's the thread and the post:

Perspective How It All Happened Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Glad you provided that link....I'd like folks to read both of our post, so they can see what a dim-witted pile of ....pudding ....you are.

Is pudding what you people in the coprophage crowd call shit?

ewwwww....

So...you accept your appellation?

Neat.

Given your perverted and odious set of values and principles, I consider any insult from you directed at me to be a compliment.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The only thing you've ever proven is what a liar you are.

Here's the thread and the post:

Perspective How It All Happened Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Glad you provided that link....I'd like folks to read both of our post, so they can see what a dim-witted pile of ....pudding ....you are.

Is pudding what you people in the coprophage crowd call shit?

ewwwww....

So...you accept your appellation?

Neat.

Given your perverted and odious set of values and principles, I consider any insult from you directed at me to be a compliment.

In that case you can expect more 'compliments.'

 

[Londoner]

How did it begin?

"The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.”
Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.

There is no evidence of a conspiracy here, just an unsupported opinion. The only thing this proves is that the Right provides incentives for fake scholarship, which scholarship serves its political agenda of moving all curriculums to the far right. This is why my liberal college had zero Marxists or Marx sympathizers in the Econ department. It's also why Bill Clinton and Obama do not have any Marxists or Marx-sympathizers on their economic advisory staffs. Research Richard Rubin, Clinton's chief economic advisor. This guy is a free market devote of Milton Friedman.

The Marxist conspiracy has gotten old. It depends on people who get 100% of their information from Movement Conservatism, which is an overlapping set of institutions (from think tanks to publishing groups and a dizzying assortment of print/digital media) that has one goal: convince morons that their country has been stolen by an evil liberal, Marxist, islamo fascist, baby killing, gay loving, America hating force.

This is how they get poor and uneducated people to join the movement, which largely supports the consolidation of political and economic power into fewer and fewer hands.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How did it begin?

"The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.”
Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.

There is no evidence of a conspiracy here, just an unsupported opinion. The only thing this proves is that the Right provides incentives for fake scholarship, which scholarship serves its political agenda of moving all curriculums to the far right. This is why my liberal college had zero Marxists or Marx sympathizers in the Econ department. It's also why Bill Clinton and Obama do not have any Marxists or Marx-sympathizers on their economic advisory staffs. Research Richard Rubin, Clinton's chief economic advisor. This guy is a free market devote of Milton Friedman.

The Marxist conspiracy has gotten old. It depends on people who get 100% of their information from Movement Conservatism, which is an overlapping set of institutions (from think tanks to publishing groups and a dizzying assortment of print/digital media) that has one goal: convince morons that their country has been stolen by an evil liberal, Marxist, islamo fascist, baby killing, gay loving, America hating force.

This is how they get poor and uneducated people to join the movement, which largely supports the consolidation of political and economic power into fewer and fewer hands.

What????



You went to college????


Let's see.....here's a pop quiz:

Communism
Socialism
Fascism
Progressivism
Liberalism

Which of them is based on big government, command and control economic principles, collectivism, dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives?

Which?


And which of them would be classified as defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?

Which of them?


Now....think carefully....no erasing and no crossing out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How did it begin?

"The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.”
Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.

There is no evidence of a conspiracy here, just an unsupported opinion. The only thing this proves is that the Right provides incentives for fake scholarship, which scholarship serves its political agenda of moving all curriculums to the far right. This is why my liberal college had zero Marxists or Marx sympathizers in the Econ department. It's also why Bill Clinton and Obama do not have any Marxists or Marx-sympathizers on their economic advisory staffs. Research Richard Rubin, Clinton's chief economic advisor. This guy is a free market devote of Milton Friedman.

The Marxist conspiracy has gotten old. It depends on people who get 100% of their information from Movement Conservatism, which is an overlapping set of institutions (from think tanks to publishing groups and a dizzying assortment of print/digital media) that has one goal: convince morons that their country has been stolen by an evil liberal, Marxist, islamo fascist, baby killing, gay loving, America hating force.

This is how they get poor and uneducated people to join the movement, which largely supports the consolidation of political and economic power into fewer and fewer hands.

What????



You went to college????


Let's see.....here's a pop quiz:

Communism
Socialism
Fascism
Progressivism
Liberalism

Which of them is based on big government, command and control economic principles, collectivism, dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives?

Which?


And which of them would be classified as defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?

Which of them?


Now....think carefully....no erasing and no crossing out.

Modern American conservatism is the most totalitarian of all political philosophies.

 

[initforme]

So PC the question is what do you want taught? Please elaborate. You don't want history taught as it is now I get that. What do you want taught specifically besides anti marxism and socialism?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So PC the question is what do you want taught? Please elaborate. You don't want history taught as it is now I get that. What do you want taught specifically besides anti marxism and socialism?

Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828
by Walter A. McDougall
instead of Howard Zinn.

 

[initforme]

I cannot afford to buy this but I did see some excerpts. He seems to have a slant. Some things I liked, some things like exceptionalism I was turned off by. He claims he loves all 50 states.... this I know is not true as nobody does.