Who thinks Trump's Core Economic Policy will be more Massive Tax cus to the ultra wealthy??

[Harry Dresden]

Both parties are clearly to blame.

not in bankers world....

 

[Polishprince]

What difference does it make what the Republicans "accept"?

The D's under Sleepy Joe are in charge and have been for a long time. It they want to impose Austerity or massively higher taxes, they have the ability to do it, regardless of any Republican "acceptance" , whatever that might mean.

 

[Crepitus]

not this thread again.....

tired of hearing the truth?

 

[berg80]

Bush then took it to another level as Bush started his presidency with the Bill Clinton balanced budget that the great Bill Clinton gave us, and left office with trillion dollar deficits.

It's important to understand the three primary factors for the explosion of the annual deficit ushered in by Shrub. 1. The tax cuts. Sold to the public as they always are based on the lie tax cuts result in lower deficits. 2. The colossally misconceived Iraq war. 3. The financial crisis.

Followed by 8 years of Obama trying to extract us from armed conflicts and trying, somewhat successfully, to address the deficit.

 

[The Banker]

Both parties are clearly to blame.

obviously both parties are too blame, but one party is much much more to blame.

This is th epoint of this thread. The debt crisis will never get fixed when the republicans keep exploding the debt and deficit non-stop, then blame the democrats with all the republican voters claiming claiming "both parties are to blame" when the republicans are clearly more to blame.

If the republicans don't stop and finally admit/accept they have bankrupted America they will continue to spend more and more and blow up the deficit even more.

What you are not man enough to adit is that Bill Clinton and Obama and Biden all lowered the deficit whereas Bush and Trump exploded the deficit.

Our debt problem is so bad because of the republicans and until republicans can admit this, they will keep on destroying america

 

[CrusaderFrank]

America has a major debt crisis and our debt and yearly deficits are out of control, as we all know.

The problem is only set to get worse and may represent the next major GW Bush style financial crisis.
Both parties have been bad on the deficit, but one party is significantly worse in every way possible.
Reagan started the era of the massive deficit, Reagan was the first king of debt and Reagan started the era of big deficits
Bush then took it to another level as Bush started his presidency with the Bill Clinton balanced budget that the great Bill Clinton gave us, and left office with trillion dollar deficits.
Trump took it to another stratosphere when he inherited the $600B/yr deficit that Obama lowered from the massibe Bush deficits, and Trump exploded the deficit before covid hit with massive massive spending bills.
By the time covid hit the US was set to run a trllion dollar a year deficit, and then Trump exploded that to $3T/yr.

3 republican presidents. 3 mega massive deficit increases ontheir watch, with their approval of all of it. No republican can admit this. They all lie and try to blame dems, pelosi, covid, Bin laden, minorities etc. Republicans even have the nerve to shut down the government because they don't want to pay for all the massive spending programs they passed under Trump's watch.

Our debt and deficit crisis will never get fixed until republicans admit they are the party mostly responsible for exploding the deficit. The republicans are going to keep exploding the deficit with their massive spending programs because they also get to somehow lie and blame democrats for all their deficit explosion.

For this reason the deficit will be the next GW Bush style mega crisis, because republicans know they can explode the deficit, blame it on the dems, and get away with it because their easily manipulated gullible supporters do not want to hold them accountable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/01/senate-passes-government-shutdown-45-days

Please change your name to Krugman's Disciple

 

[The Banker]

not in bankers world....

explain to me how both parties are to blame when Bush inherited a balanced budget and blew up the deficit with massive spending bills and tax cuts for the billionaires, and left office with trillion dollar deficits. Also Bush has a GOP house and senate for 6 of his 8 years and passed endless spending bills

explain how both parties are to blame for that???

 

[Oddball]

America has a major debt crisis and our debt and yearly deficits are out of control, as we all know.

The problem is only set to get worse and may represent the next major GW Bush style financial crisis.
Both parties have been bad on the deficit, but one party is significantly worse in every way possible.
Reagan started the era of the massive deficit, Reagan was the first king of debt and Reagan started the era of big deficits
Bush then took it to another level as Bush started his presidency with the Bill Clinton balanced budget that the great Bill Clinton gave us, and left office with trillion dollar deficits.
Trump took it to another stratosphere when he inherited the $600B/yr deficit that Obama lowered from the massibe Bush deficits, and Trump exploded the deficit before covid hit with massive massive spending bills.
By the time covid hit the US was set to run a trllion dollar a year deficit, and then Trump exploded that to $3T/yr.

3 republican presidents. 3 mega massive deficit increases ontheir watch, with their approval of all of it. No republican can admit this. They all lie and try to blame dems, pelosi, covid, Bin laden, minorities etc. Republicans even have the nerve to shut down the government because they don't want to pay for all the massive spending programs they passed under Trump's watch.

Our debt and deficit crisis will never get fixed until republicans admit they are the party mostly responsible for exploding the deficit. The republicans are going to keep exploding the deficit with their massive spending programs because they also get to somehow lie and blame democrats for all their deficit explosion.

For this reason the deficit will be the next GW Bush style mega crisis, because republicans know they can explode the deficit, blame it on the dems, and get away with it because their easily manipulated gullible supporters do not want to hold them accountable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/01/senate-passes-government-shutdown-45-days

 

[The Banker]

It's important to understand the three primary factors for the explosion of the annual deficit ushered in by Shrub. 1. The tax cuts. Sold to the public as they always are based on the lie tax cuts result in lower deficits. 2. The colossally misconceived Iraq war. 3. The financial crisis.

Followed by 8 years of Obama trying to extract us from armed conflicts and trying, somewhat successfully, to address the deficit.

yes definitely
then lets not forget that by the end of Obama's presidency Obama had lowered the deficit to $600B/yr in which Trump exploded it to $3T/yr

I think the big problem is that republicans keep exploding the deficit, then they blame democrats, and the gullible manipulated republican voters do not hold their party members accountable for their deficit explosion.

The republicans have a free pass to explode the deficit and they keep on doing it president after president.

 

[jc456]

America has a major debt crisis and our debt and yearly deficits are out of control, as we all know.

The problem is only set to get worse and may represent the next major GW Bush style financial crisis.
Both parties have been bad on the deficit, but one party is significantly worse in every way possible.
Reagan started the era of the massive deficit, Reagan was the first king of debt and Reagan started the era of big deficits
Bush then took it to another level as Bush started his presidency with the Bill Clinton balanced budget that the great Bill Clinton gave us, and left office with trillion dollar deficits.
Trump took it to another stratosphere when he inherited the $600B/yr deficit that Obama lowered from the massibe Bush deficits, and Trump exploded the deficit before covid hit with massive massive spending bills.
By the time covid hit the US was set to run a trllion dollar a year deficit, and then Trump exploded that to $3T/yr.

3 republican presidents. 3 mega massive deficit increases ontheir watch, with their approval of all of it. No republican can admit this. They all lie and try to blame dems, pelosi, covid, Bin laden, minorities etc. Republicans even have the nerve to shut down the government because they don't want to pay for all the massive spending programs they passed under Trump's watch.

Our debt and deficit crisis will never get fixed until republicans admit they are the party mostly responsible for exploding the deficit. The republicans are going to keep exploding the deficit with their massive spending programs because they also get to somehow lie and blame democrats for all their deficit explosion.

For this reason the deficit will be the next GW Bush style mega crisis, because republicans know they can explode the deficit, blame it on the dems, and get away with it because their easily manipulated gullible supporters do not want to hold them accountable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/01/senate-passes-government-shutdown-45-days

What’s sad is you believe that! Hahaha hahaha

 

[jc456]

yes definitely
then lets not forget that by the end of Obama's presidency Obama had lowered the deficit to $600B/yr in which Trump exploded it to $3T/yr

I think the big problem is that republicans keep exploding the deficit, then they blame democrats, and the gullible manipulated republican voters do not hold their party members accountable for their deficit explosion.

The republicans have a free pass to explode the deficit and they keep on doing it president after president.

Please stop with fake news

 

[dblack]

It won't get fixed until voters realized THEY caused it.

 

[The Banker]

What’s sad is you believe that! Hahaha hahaha

Bush started with a balanced budget and left with trillion dollar deficits
Trump started with $600B/yr deficits and left with $3+T/yr deficits.

The facts prove the republicans exploded the deficit. They are most to blame and most responsible. The facts make you squirm because you can't hold your beloved GOP accountable.

 

[bripat9643]

Spending exploded under Trump.

Why does this not bother you?

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It's all COVID spending, moron. Dims demanded it.

 

[jc456]

Bush started with a balanced budget and left with trillion dollar deficits
Trump started with $600B/yr deficits and left with $3+T/yr deficits.

The facts prove the republicans exploded the deficit. They are most to blame and most responsible. The facts make you squirm because you can't hold your beloved GOP accountable.

Again, fake news engulfs you

 

[bripat9643]

yet the republicans are the ones that explode the deficit retard.

No they aren't.

Bush inherited the Bill CLinton balanced budget and left office with trillion dollar deficits and the balanced budget destroyed. Bush passed massive spending bills
Trump started with a $600B/yr deficit and exploded the deficit to $1T pre-covid, and then $3+T/yr post covid.

That's because of COVID, moron. Dims approved all thos budgets.

Bush started with a Bill Clinton balanced budget and Trump left office with $3+T/yr deficits and they both signed off on every dollar.

Bush and Trump and the GOP have bankrupted America.

Myth.

 

[Independent thinker]

America has a major debt crisis and our debt and yearly deficits are out of control, as we all know.

The problem is only set to get worse and may represent the next major GW Bush style financial crisis.
Both parties have been bad on the deficit, but one party is significantly worse in every way possible.
Reagan started the era of the massive deficit, Reagan was the first king of debt and Reagan started the era of big deficits
Bush then took it to another level as Bush started his presidency with the Bill Clinton balanced budget that the great Bill Clinton gave us, and left office with trillion dollar deficits.
Trump took it to another stratosphere when he inherited the $600B/yr deficit that Obama lowered from the massibe Bush deficits, and Trump exploded the deficit before covid hit with massive massive spending bills.
By the time covid hit the US was set to run a trllion dollar a year deficit, and then Trump exploded that to $3T/yr.

3 republican presidents. 3 mega massive deficit increases ontheir watch, with their approval of all of it. No republican can admit this. They all lie and try to blame dems, pelosi, covid, Bin laden, minorities etc. Republicans even have the nerve to shut down the government because they don't want to pay for all the massive spending programs they passed under Trump's watch.

Our debt and deficit crisis will never get fixed until republicans admit they are the party mostly responsible for exploding the deficit. The republicans are going to keep exploding the deficit with their massive spending programs because they also get to somehow lie and blame democrats for all their deficit explosion.

For this reason the deficit will be the next GW Bush style mega crisis, because republicans know they can explode the deficit, blame it on the dems, and get away with it because their easily manipulated gullible supporters do not want to hold them accountable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/01/senate-passes-government-shutdown-45-days

Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, that's easy for you to say while you are raking in millions of dollars selling your worthless paintings, selling the influence of your dad's office.

 

[ThisIsMe]

it is a racket.
Republicans explode the deficit to hand out trillions of dollars to billionaires. These billionaires then donate some of that money to republicans campaign. Then they republicans give the billionaires more tax cuts, they blow up the deficit even more, and they get more campaign donations.
Now we know why republicans all oppose campaign finance reform.

These people have so much money they can just piss away 475 mill on futile political donations to loser candidates. but they need a tax cut at the expense of our countries fiscal health?? Republican policy is failed policy and the republicans are main reason why we have such massive debt.

Once again, did we see any rich democrats refusing these tax credits? You don’t have to take those credits, and you can also send money to the government as well.

You see, it’s hard to blame republicans for these tax credits, if the rich democrats are taking advantage of them as well.

The truth is, rich democrats love those tax cuts, but while they stuff money in their pockets with one hands, they make rude gestures at those who enabled the tax cuts with the other hand.

Do we ever see a billionaire democrat saying they don’t think they pay their fair share? If you do, then why aren’t they volunteering to send money to the government?

 

[Harry Dresden]

tired of hearing the truth?

the truth of what?....how great joe biden is?....thats getting as old as all the posters here saying how great trump is....

 

[Harry Dresden]

explain to me how both parties are to blame when Bush inherited a balanced budget and blew up the deficit with massive spending bills and tax cuts for the billionaires, and left office with trillion dollar deficits. Also Bush has a GOP house and senate for 6 of his 8 years and passed endless spending bills

explain how both parties are to blame for that???

banker you once told me that both parties are bad....but the democrats are a little better....i dont agree with you.....i think they both suck pretty evenly.....this century they are getting worse and worse....because no quality people want to run for anything because of the bullshit they have to put up with to get the office....hence we get the most incompetent and inept crowd....because they dont have high standards......things aint as great as you try to make them out to be...