Who's Afraid of Socialism?

[georgephillip]

Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

 

[francoHFW]

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

 

[bripat9643]

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

 

[francoHFW]

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

 

[francoHFW]

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

 

[dblack]

Who would control production in your system?

No one.

Production doesn't need to be controlled.

 

[bripat9643]

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

That's the way you define it, but nobody else.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No thanks. One need not look any further than europe to see what a travesty it is.

Q. Have you ever been to Europe?

Cleary, for those of us who have, your comment is ignorant.

Clearly your selective vacation overseas taught you nothing and you are still a naive fool

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production[1]with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralized planned socialist economy.[2]"

In a best case scenario, socialism would bring democracy to the workplace where most Americans spend one-third of their adult lives.

Richard Wolff is probably the most widely quoted economist on this aspect of social ownership.

Richard D. Wolff on The Worker Co-Op Solution | Grassroots Economic Organizing

"The frustration of the left, given this exhaustion of traditional socialisms' appeal, arose from having no other broadly agreed-upon vision of an attractive alternative to capitalism.

"The left could not provide what mass audiences craved as they deepened their criticisms of capitalism's longer-term decline and short-term crisis.

"Enter the notion of workers' cooperatives or, better, the awkward but more specific term: workers self-directed enterprises (WSDEs).

"This centuries-old idea has been revived, redesigned and applied to go well beyond traditional socialism.

"The result is a new vision of an alternative to capitalism that could help to mobilize a new left."

One example of self-directed enterprises occurs when the founders of a family business retire and their children are not interested in taking over the firm.

Professor Wolff and his team can provide a way for the retiring capitalists to sell their business to their employees (instead of BlackRock).

Richard Wolff is probably the most widely quoted economist on this aspect of social ownership.

Commies are cool, eh comrade?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Government can't bail anyone out without taking the money from someone else first.

Why does the US government take the money from those who have the least?

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Why does the US government take the money from those who have the least?

Because...….stop smoking that crap, I don't care if they made it legal.

• In 2015, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.2 percent of all individual income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.8 percent.
• The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (39.0 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.4 percent).
• The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 27.1 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.6 percent).

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2017 Update

"Income disparities have become so pronounced that America’s top 10 percent now average more than nine times as much income as the bottom 90 percent. Americans in the top 1 percent tower stunningly higher.

"They average over 40 times more income than the bottom 90 percent.

"But that gap pales in comparison to the divide between the nation’s top 0.1 percent and everyone else. Americans at this lofty level are taking in over 198 times the income of the bottom 90 percent."

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Earners in the bottom 90% are more likely to be engaged in productive employment as opposed to rigging the foreign currency exchange, and total taxes eat up a much bigger portion of their take home pay than the 0.1% fat (felonious) cats.

Government should use progressive federal and state income taxes to ensure fat cats shoulder the same total tax burden as those whose middle class jobs were shipped to Mexico and China by the richest 0.1%

Thanks, I was looking for proof that rich people made more money than poor people.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What "current economic crisis"? The DOW is around 24000 and the GDP is around 4.1% while unemployment is at a historic low. One symptom that seems to be common in idiotic socialists is living in the past and hoping for bad news.

Why is consumer debt continuing to rise?

10 Years Later: How Has America's Consumer Debt Changed Since the Financial Crisis? -- The Motley Fool

Why is consumer debt continuing to rise?

Because we have more consumers making more money in a larger economy.

 

[tycho1572]

Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston

"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.

"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.

"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.

"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."

Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.

"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.

Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.

Who's Afraid of Socialism?
That's a good question for everyone fleeing socialism.

 

[bripat9643]

Who would control production in your system?

No one.

Production doesn't need to be controlled.

Then mentality of the statist on display: They can't comprehend anything working without government controlling it.

 

[bripat9643]

What "current economic crisis"? The DOW is around 24000 and the GDP is around 4.1% while unemployment is at a historic low. One symptom that seems to be common in idiotic socialists is living in the past and hoping for bad news.

Why is consumer debt continuing to rise?

10 Years Later: How Has America's Consumer Debt Changed Since the Financial Crisis? -- The Motley Fool

Why is consumer debt continuing to rise?

Because we have more consumers making more money is a larger economy.

Also because the government inflated the money supply.

 

[francoHFW]

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

That's the way you define it, but nobody else.

Not among the GOP Cold War dinosaur DOops, that's for sure. Bernie Sanders is a socialist.I'm trying to tell you you are clueless about what the world is. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. They are different everywhere but confused dupe world.

 

[bripat9643]

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

That's the way you define it, but nobody else.

Not among the GOP Cold War dinosaur DOops, that's for sure. Bernie Sanders is a socialist.I'm trying to tell you you are clueless about what the world is. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. They are different everywhere but confused dupe world.

True socialism can't exist without a dictatorship. The only way people give up their property to the government is at gunpoint.

 

[georgephillip]

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

Do you believe "politics is the shadow cast on society by big business"?

If so, how likely is it the richest one percent will interrupt their forty year pillage to fund quality healthcare, free college, and good infrastructure?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"Regarding developments in the United States during this era (roughly 1980-2015), Jenkins highlights the nature in which political parties and the political system itself are inherently designed to protect the economic base of capitalism and, in doing so, have become 'increasingly centralized, coordinated, and synchronized over the past half-century.'

"This, according to Jenkins, has led to a 'corporate-fascistic state of being' that is challenging the equilibrium of this fragile relationship.

"His analysis specifically addresses the role of both major parties, Democrats and Republicans, in the United States:

"It reminds us of John Dewey's claim that, 'As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance.' In the US, the two-party political system has proven extremely effective in this regard.

"Aside from differences on social issues like abortion and gay marriage, as well as socioeconomic issues like unemployment insurance and public assistance, both parties ultimately embrace capitalist/corporatist interests in that they both serve as facilitators for the dominant classes:

"The Republican Party in its role as forerunner, pushing the limits of the capitalist model to the brink of fascism; and the Democratic Party in its role as governor, providing intermittent degrees of slack and pull against this inevitable move towards a 'corporate-fascistic state of being.[17]"

 

[Dale Smith]

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

That's the way you define it, but nobody else.

Not among the GOP Cold War dinosaur DOops, that's for sure. Bernie Sanders is a socialist.I'm trying to tell you you are clueless about what the world is. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. They are different everywhere but confused dupe world.

Franco, you are an idiot.....an idealistic moron that believes in "gubermint" at whose feet you worship at with ZERO knowledge of how this fiat monetary system works and the ones that pull the strings. You are simply a useful idiot.

 

[Rustic]

Government can't bail anyone out without taking the money from someone else first.

Why does the US government take the money from those who have the least?

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Why does the US government take the money from those who have the least?

Because...….stop smoking that crap, I don't care if they made it legal.

• In 2015, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.2 percent of all individual income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.8 percent.
• The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (39.0 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.4 percent).
• The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 27.1 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.6 percent).

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2017 Update

"Income disparities have become so pronounced that America’s top 10 percent now average more than nine times as much income as the bottom 90 percent. Americans in the top 1 percent tower stunningly higher.

"They average over 40 times more income than the bottom 90 percent.

"But that gap pales in comparison to the divide between the nation’s top 0.1 percent and everyone else. Americans at this lofty level are taking in over 198 times the income of the bottom 90 percent."

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Earners in the bottom 90% are more likely to be engaged in productive employment as opposed to rigging the foreign currency exchange, and total taxes eat up a much bigger portion of their take home pay than the 0.1% fat (felonious) cats.

Government should use progressive federal and state income taxes to ensure fat cats shoulder the same total tax burden as those whose middle class jobs were shipped to Mexico and China by the richest 0.1%

How much anybody makes or how little they make is none of your fucking business and certainly none of the federal government business

 

[Rustic]

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Who gives a s*** about Marxist theory --irrelevant and totally discredited... What we need is more benefits for our middle class like other successful countries. Good Health Care system 1 month vacations at least living wage cheap college and training good infrastructure for crying out loud.....

The GOP giveaway to the rich and screw the rest is ruining the country, for all the talk of boom times. Doesn't work for the 50%.

I fear socialism for the same reasons I fear theocracy. It simply gives government too much power.

Democracy is the problem with socialism. It's a bug, not a feature.

If Democracy is a problem, what form of government would you recommend?

I wouldn't apply government to our economic decisions at all.

Democracy is fine for social decisions that actually require conformity. When we all need to be on the same page and must agree on a singular solution, democracy's not a bad way to go.
But most of the time that kind of conformity isn't required and freedom is a better approach.

Who would control production in your system?

Base and superstructure - Wikipedia

"In Marxist theory, capitalist society consists of two parts: the base (or substructure) and superstructure.

"The base comprises the forces and relations of production (e.g. employer–employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations) into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life.

"The base determines society's other relationships and ideas to comprise its superstructure, including its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state.

"While the relation of the two parts is not strictly unidirectional, as the superstructure often affects the base, the influence of the base is predominant. Marx and Engels warned against such economic determinism.[1]"

Hocus-pocus.

Socialism now is defined as fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. It works for the people and every other successful country and they are a lot happier than we are. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Living wage Health Care daycare cheap college are not hard to take unless you are brainwashed.

Lol
Happy? What are you some type a pussy?