Who's more violent? Whites or blacks?

[ScienceRocks]

2013
FBI Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Blacks killed 409 whites compared to 189 of whites killing of blacks.

Remember blacks are only 1/5th of the white population...So blacks kill something like 4.5 times based on these numbers. So, yes, they're far more violent! 2,500 x 4.5 = over 11,250 if whites killed at this rate.

Every single one of the top 20 most violent places in this country is over running with them.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

Was your grandfaher

Our excuse was power and control. I can't argue your points either. And I dont take joy in how violent the black community is. I truly want it to stop.

I just feel like things will never improve if we wait for whites to do what's right. Even if they do it won't be enough if blacks dont change their behavior too.

1. Make it a goal the next generation of black kids will all have mothers and fathers raising them. No more accepting eubonic talk.

I dont have kids because I'm too selfish and can't afford them. If that's true for you too do like me dont have kids.

Just what, exactly, should white folks do? Blacks get preference in colleges and employment. They have equal rights and more than equal opportunities.
The problem is instilling the motivation for all of us to take advantage of those opportunities.
Blacks do, to a certain extent, mark themselves for failure.
The ghetto ebonics, disdain for blacks who act "Too white" the single parent families with weak or nonexistant father figures all work against them when they try to get a job.

Hell! Even names! I see no problem with being proud of your heritage, but giving your kid a name that marks him before he even gets an interview?

What's wrong with typical American names?

I guess there in lies my biggest problem. Blacks want to be African-Americans.
Why not just Americans?

Next, understand that YOU, hundreds of years later, are the direct beneficiary of the injustices I just referred to. That does NOT automatically make you an insensitive prick, but it does give you privileges that African Americans do not currently enjoy.

Snipped for brevity
That's bullshit. My family didn't get here until well after the civil war.
In the first generation my grandfather went from a young immigrant with no skills to the owner of a decent sized farm in Connecticut. Don't give me crap about white advantage. The tables have been turned since the 60's and more blacks are in poverty now than they were then.
Dammit! take some friggin responsibility for your problems. I sure as hell didn't put your sorry ass in the ghetto.

Was this advancement hindered by the color of his skin ?

Look asshat. Your race has had 150 years to climb out of the hole of slavery. My grandfather did it in 20 years. And you're damned right his ethnicity worked against him. He was German and we were fighting a war against the Germans when he bought the farm.

Man up and make it on your own. Your prosperity is not my responsibility.

Hmmmmm, namecalling. Is this the part where I take you seriously ?
What race am I ? Never mentioned that. That's what's so cool about this interweb thingy you've managed to bumble into, especially nowadays; there are now many Caucasians who don't feel the way you do and are not afraid to state as much. You are embarrassing yourself....again.

His ethnicity worked against him because he died in WWII ?
When were African Americans allowed to fight in the European theater in WWII ? Go ahead, Google is a wonderful thing.

Here's the best part, your entitlements are being challenged, and it has rattled you enough to guess at the race of a complete stranger, embarrass yourself by calling names, and profane your grandfather's sacrifice for our country all in one post. You'd make a HORRIBLE non white dude.

Keep swinging !

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

From the time black people set foot on american soil, white folks have murdered, raped, beatin and victimized black folks up until the 1960's.

Yeah, after your tribal chieftain's back in Africa sold your descendants to the slave traders from Europe. And the lucky ones ended up on Southern plantations, where they had a job, a roof over their heads and plenty to eat. A few members of a group known as the KKK (last one being Senator Robert Byrd...dimocrat WV died in office in 2010) actually killed some blacks unnecessarily. The murders of blacks in this country weren't NEARLY as you believe they were. At the rate your own race is killing each other off, it will make what the KKK was responsible for look like a hit and run accident.

Get a fucking life.

I see.
Your response to racial inequality is to blame tribal chieftain's from centuries ago.
You cannot bear to admit that you, or anyone who looks like you, is part of the problem.
Consider coming back when you align with the reality that racism in the U.S. was not created in a vacuum, nor does it continue to exist in one.

NO, I'm not part of the problem. You SoBs ARE THE GD PROBLEM...I moved out of the city of St. Louis 38 years ago because I didn't want my kids trying to reach adulthood with what I saw it was coming to there. Best goddamn move I ever MADE. An imminent race war is the ONLY thing that will correct the situation. Unless YOU PERSONALLY can influence some rich SOB with a shitload of money to pay the way for 75 million NEGROES to return TO AFRICA.

You are declaring, on the World Wide Web, that a race war is the only thing that will correct the situation while advocating that all African Americans be sent back to Africa....
.....but you ARE NOT part of the problem ?

You are truly delusional.....and I'm figuring the SCLC and FBI know exactly who you are.

Hope you don't shoot yourself while cleaning your guns after tripping over the bible you likely never bothered opening.
STL huh ?
Figures.

You are another one who is truly full of shit.

Nope, quite the contrary. Each thing I said is true.
That's gotta sting.
Such is reality.
Good luck dealing effectively with it.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

From the time black people set foot on american soil, white folks have murdered, raped, beatin and victimized black folks up until the 1960's.

Yeah, after your tribal chieftain's back in Africa sold your descendants to the slave traders from Europe. And the lucky ones ended up on Southern plantations, where they had a job, a roof over their heads and plenty to eat. A few members of a group known as the KKK (last one being Senator Robert Byrd...dimocrat WV died in office in 2010) actually killed some blacks unnecessarily. The murders of blacks in this country weren't NEARLY as you believe they were. At the rate your own race is killing each other off, it will make what the KKK was responsible for look like a hit and run accident.

Get a fucking life.

I see.
Your response to racial inequality is to blame tribal chieftain's from centuries ago.
You cannot bear to admit that you, or anyone who looks like you, is part of the problem.
Consider coming back when you align with the reality that racism in the U.S. was not created in a vacuum, nor does it continue to exist in one.

NO, I'm not part of the problem. You SoBs ARE THE GD PROBLEM...I moved out of the city of St. Louis 38 years ago because I didn't want my kids trying to reach adulthood with what I saw it was coming to there. Best goddamn move I ever MADE. An imminent race war is the ONLY thing that will correct the situation. Unless YOU PERSONALLY can influence some rich SOB with a shitload of money to pay the way for 75 million NEGROES to return TO AFRICA.

You are declaring, on the World Wide Web, that a race war is the only thing that will correct the situation while advocating that all African Americans be sent back to Africa....
.....but you ARE NOT part of the problem ?

You are truly delusional.....and I'm figuring the SCLC and FBI know exactly who you are.

Hope you don't shoot yourself while cleaning your guns after tripping over the bible you likely never bothered opening.
STL huh ?
Figures.

Sorry asshole...my only gun is a Daisy BB gun.

Good !
Truly thankful, not only for the rest of humanity, but that you'll likely live a long, frustrating, lonely, angry, life.
This pleases me.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Look in the mirror black people. Until you fix your problems = black lives don't matter! Burning this country to the ground won't solve it.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

Blacks seem to be more physical than whites but I don't know about violence. Perhaps their rough and tumble play leads to violence more so than with whites. I am not a physical person in the sense that I like to play grab ass with people but aside from that I don't mind working at my tasks and I love country dancing, which can be physical.

Perhaps blacks are like frustrated small children in that acting out their frustrations gives them some emotional relief? Perhaps they see their problems as being unsurmountable?

Listen, what black children lack in their lives are role models that need to teach them out to negotiate conflict. We don't allow our children options when it comes to conflict. I can't tell you how many parents I see kicking thier kids ass because they lost a fight....lost a fight. How many parents I see yelling at their kids and beating on their kids....remember the black mother that beat her kid after he showed up for a protest and all the media was applauding this bitch? A strong black parents presence alone should have made that kid want to go with his mother, a look should have done the trick...instead, she used violence....do you think for a second this kid is gonna grow up not wanting to use the same tatics to convey his message?

I agree with this. You really aren't teaching a child anything when you use violence except that is how you resolve issues.

Pretty pathetic.
Wait until the next NCAA championship and get back to me on how gentle white kids are.
.....or go to a soccer match in Slovenia.

It would be funny, this whole incestuous amplification of stereotype you guys are engaged in, were it not for the effects on others.

Enjoy your fear.

 

[Ernie S.]

Was your grandfaher

Just what, exactly, should white folks do? Blacks get preference in colleges and employment. They have equal rights and more than equal opportunities.
The problem is instilling the motivation for all of us to take advantage of those opportunities.
Blacks do, to a certain extent, mark themselves for failure.
The ghetto ebonics, disdain for blacks who act "Too white" the single parent families with weak or nonexistant father figures all work against them when they try to get a job.

Hell! Even names! I see no problem with being proud of your heritage, but giving your kid a name that marks him before he even gets an interview?

What's wrong with typical American names?

I guess there in lies my biggest problem. Blacks want to be African-Americans.
Why not just Americans?

Next, understand that YOU, hundreds of years later, are the direct beneficiary of the injustices I just referred to. That does NOT automatically make you an insensitive prick, but it does give you privileges that African Americans do not currently enjoy.

Snipped for brevity
That's bullshit. My family didn't get here until well after the civil war.
In the first generation my grandfather went from a young immigrant with no skills to the owner of a decent sized farm in Connecticut. Don't give me crap about white advantage. The tables have been turned since the 60's and more blacks are in poverty now than they were then.
Dammit! take some friggin responsibility for your problems. I sure as hell didn't put your sorry ass in the ghetto.

Was this advancement hindered by the color of his skin ?

Look asshat. Your race has had 150 years to climb out of the hole of slavery. My grandfather did it in 20 years. And you're damned right his ethnicity worked against him. He was German and we were fighting a war against the Germans when he bought the farm.

Man up and make it on your own. Your prosperity is not my responsibility.

Hmmmmm, namecalling. Is this the part where I take you seriously ?
What race am I ? Never mentioned that. That's what's so cool about this interweb thingy you've managed to bumble into, especially nowadays; there are now many Caucasians who don't feel the way you do and are not afraid to state as much. You are embarrassing yourself....again.

His ethnicity worked against him because he died in WWII ?
When were African Americans allowed to fight in the European theater in WWII ? Go ahead, Google is a wonderful thing.

Here's the best part, your entitlements are being challenged, and it has rattled you enough to guess at the race of a complete stranger, embarrass yourself by calling names, and profane your grandfather's sacrifice for our country all in one post. You'd make a HORRIBLE non white dude.

Keep swinging !

Just assumed you were... Might have something to do with your attitude and false air of superiority.

It's a shame you're not worth my further time. You're a relatively intelligent person.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

Look in the mirror black people. Until you fix your problems = black lives don't matter! Burning this country to the ground won't solve it.

Interesting....
So blacks need only police themselves and all will be well.
Does this mean that law enforcement only exists because there are blacks ?
What about LEOs in, say......Wyoming ?

Do you have any idea of the magnitude of your bigotry ??

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

Was your grandfaher

Next, understand that YOU, hundreds of years later, are the direct beneficiary of the injustices I just referred to. That does NOT automatically make you an insensitive prick, but it does give you privileges that African Americans do not currently enjoy.

Snipped for brevity
That's bullshit. My family didn't get here until well after the civil war.
In the first generation my grandfather went from a young immigrant with no skills to the owner of a decent sized farm in Connecticut. Don't give me crap about white advantage. The tables have been turned since the 60's and more blacks are in poverty now than they were then.
Dammit! take some friggin responsibility for your problems. I sure as hell didn't put your sorry ass in the ghetto.

Was this advancement hindered by the color of his skin ?

Look asshat. Your race has had 150 years to climb out of the hole of slavery. My grandfather did it in 20 years. And you're damned right his ethnicity worked against him. He was German and we were fighting a war against the Germans when he bought the farm.

Man up and make it on your own. Your prosperity is not my responsibility.

Hmmmmm, namecalling. Is this the part where I take you seriously ?
What race am I ? Never mentioned that. That's what's so cool about this interweb thingy you've managed to bumble into, especially nowadays; there are now many Caucasians who don't feel the way you do and are not afraid to state as much. You are embarrassing yourself....again.

His ethnicity worked against him because he died in WWII ?
When were African Americans allowed to fight in the European theater in WWII ? Go ahead, Google is a wonderful thing.

Here's the best part, your entitlements are being challenged, and it has rattled you enough to guess at the race of a complete stranger, embarrass yourself by calling names, and profane your grandfather's sacrifice for our country all in one post. You'd make a HORRIBLE non white dude.

Keep swinging !

Just assumed you were... Might have something to do with your attitude and false air of superiority.

It's a shame you're not worth my further time. You're a relatively intelligent person.

You are mistaken. The superiority expressed is not mine and is truly a function of how crappy and poorly supported your positions are.

 

[hortysir]

Why stop at the 15th century?

If you really want to show white violence you should go back further and lump in the Huns, the Vikings and the ROmans.

Even if the African tribes were busy killing each other at those times, worse record keeping should enable you to juice up the number reeeeal good.

That would help deflect from the current sorry state of Black America.

Thus, you can keep your precious status quo, which is so helpful to libs and dems for getting their agenda advanced at the tiny, tiny cost of generations of black suffering and death.

Threads killer

 

[ScienceRocks]

You can only compare who is more violent by comparing them per capita. Whites have 5 times their population and only do around 45%(including the Hispanics and arab population that is included in this number). There's no question or even a debate on who's more violent...Black are.

 

[ChrisL]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

Blacks seem to be more physical than whites but I don't know about violence. Perhaps their rough and tumble play leads to violence more so than with whites. I am not a physical person in the sense that I like to play grab ass with people but aside from that I don't mind working at my tasks and I love country dancing, which can be physical.

Perhaps blacks are like frustrated small children in that acting out their frustrations gives them some emotional relief? Perhaps they see their problems as being unsurmountable?

Listen, what black children lack in their lives are role models that need to teach them out to negotiate conflict. We don't allow our children options when it comes to conflict. I can't tell you how many parents I see kicking thier kids ass because they lost a fight....lost a fight. How many parents I see yelling at their kids and beating on their kids....remember the black mother that beat her kid after he showed up for a protest and all the media was applauding this bitch? A strong black parents presence alone should have made that kid want to go with his mother, a look should have done the trick...instead, she used violence....do you think for a second this kid is gonna grow up not wanting to use the same tatics to convey his message?

I agree with this. You really aren't teaching a child anything when you use violence except that is how you resolve issues.

Pretty pathetic.
Wait until the next NCAA championship and get back to me on how gentle white kids are.
.....or go to a soccer match in Slovenia.

It would be funny, this whole incestuous amplification of stereotype you guys are engaged in, were it not for the effects on others.

Enjoy your fear.

Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to, but I don't really think that hitting kids teaches them anything except violence. It has nothing to do with their color, of course. Derp.

 

[jillian]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

as opposed to europeans who killed and conquered everywhere they ever went?

people are violent. color isn't the creator of violence.

just more bigoted useless trash

 

[Ernie S.]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

Blacks seem to be more physical than whites but I don't know about violence. Perhaps their rough and tumble play leads to violence more so than with whites. I am not a physical person in the sense that I like to play grab ass with people but aside from that I don't mind working at my tasks and I love country dancing, which can be physical.

Perhaps blacks are like frustrated small children in that acting out their frustrations gives them some emotional relief? Perhaps they see their problems as being unsurmountable?

Listen, what black children lack in their lives are role models that need to teach them out to negotiate conflict. We don't allow our children options when it comes to conflict. I can't tell you how many parents I see kicking thier kids ass because they lost a fight....lost a fight. How many parents I see yelling at their kids and beating on their kids....remember the black mother that beat her kid after he showed up for a protest and all the media was applauding this bitch? A strong black parents presence alone should have made that kid want to go with his mother, a look should have done the trick...instead, she used violence....do you think for a second this kid is gonna grow up not wanting to use the same tatics to convey his message?

I agree with this. You really aren't teaching a child anything when you use violence except that is how you resolve issues.

Pretty pathetic.
Wait until the next NCAA championship and get back to me on how gentle white kids are.
.....or go to a soccer match in Slovenia.

It would be funny, this whole incestuous amplification of stereotype you guys are engaged in, were it not for the effects on others.

Enjoy your fear.

Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to, but I don't really think that hitting kids teaches them anything except violence. It has nothing to do with their color, of course. Derp.

 

[jillian]

You can only compare who is more violent by comparing them per capita. Whites have 5 times their population and only do around 45%(including the Hispanics and arab population that is included in this number). There's no question or even a debate on who's more violent...Black are.

to racist pondscum, no doubt that's true

 

[ChrisL]

Blacks seem to be more physical than whites but I don't know about violence. Perhaps their rough and tumble play leads to violence more so than with whites. I am not a physical person in the sense that I like to play grab ass with people but aside from that I don't mind working at my tasks and I love country dancing, which can be physical.

Perhaps blacks are like frustrated small children in that acting out their frustrations gives them some emotional relief? Perhaps they see their problems as being unsurmountable?

Listen, what black children lack in their lives are role models that need to teach them out to negotiate conflict. We don't allow our children options when it comes to conflict. I can't tell you how many parents I see kicking thier kids ass because they lost a fight....lost a fight. How many parents I see yelling at their kids and beating on their kids....remember the black mother that beat her kid after he showed up for a protest and all the media was applauding this bitch? A strong black parents presence alone should have made that kid want to go with his mother, a look should have done the trick...instead, she used violence....do you think for a second this kid is gonna grow up not wanting to use the same tatics to convey his message?

I agree with this. You really aren't teaching a child anything when you use violence except that is how you resolve issues.

Pretty pathetic.
Wait until the next NCAA championship and get back to me on how gentle white kids are.
.....or go to a soccer match in Slovenia.

It would be funny, this whole incestuous amplification of stereotype you guys are engaged in, were it not for the effects on others.

Enjoy your fear.

Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to, but I don't really think that hitting kids teaches them anything except violence. It has nothing to do with their color, of course. Derp.

Something must have gotten messed up here, Ernie, because I don't see a reply from you.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Blacks on average have higher testosterone and lower IQ levels

LOLOLOLOL.....Tell that to Obama, the most intelligent president we've had in decades....just sayin

He isn't black. Let's stay on topic, shall we?

 

[hortysir]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

as opposed to europeans who killed and conquered everywhere they ever went?

people are violent. color isn't the creator of violence.

just more bigoted useless trash

But cultures teach violence, therefore....

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

It's not just in America, blacks display the same violence everywhere else in the world

Yeah, like that white guy, Adolf that murdered 10 million jews!!

10 million? Nonsense!

Fuck you, Nazi bigot.

 

[Ernie S.]

Listen, what black children lack in their lives are role models that need to teach them out to negotiate conflict. We don't allow our children options when it comes to conflict. I can't tell you how many parents I see kicking thier kids ass because they lost a fight....lost a fight. How many parents I see yelling at their kids and beating on their kids....remember the black mother that beat her kid after he showed up for a protest and all the media was applauding this bitch? A strong black parents presence alone should have made that kid want to go with his mother, a look should have done the trick...instead, she used violence....do you think for a second this kid is gonna grow up not wanting to use the same tatics to convey his message?

I agree with this. You really aren't teaching a child anything when you use violence except that is how you resolve issues.

Pretty pathetic.
Wait until the next NCAA championship and get back to me on how gentle white kids are.
.....or go to a soccer match in Slovenia.

It would be funny, this whole incestuous amplification of stereotype you guys are engaged in, were it not for the effects on others.

Enjoy your fear.

Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to, but I don't really think that hitting kids teaches them anything except violence. It has nothing to do with their color, of course. Derp.

Something must have gotten messed up here, Ernie, because I don't see a reply from you.

I guess. I don't remember replying.