Why am I supposed to care about Chemical Weapons in Syria?

[candycorn]

Nothing in Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia (and I’m leaving out about 150 other countries) is worth one drop of American blood.

That was proven false 1914, again in 1939 and we now have a world economy.

Europe (to where something like 70% of Americans at the time) is different than ME nations with a GDP that is not equal to some of our cities and states.

I thought you were going to try the old humanitarian ploy instead of the economic one. You probably should have. You lost.

 

[Markle]

Why are we in Syria? Most Americans can't answer that question. That's how awful our foreign policy is.

So in your desperate opinion, Progressive, low information voters, should direct our foreign policy. Cute.

It is good that you agree that our foreign policy is a disaster unequaled in modern history. All at the foot of petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama.

Why is he in Tahiti? Didn't he claim that he wanted to stay in Washington to be close to his daughter until she graduated?

Do we have an extradition treaty with Tahiti?

 

[Markle]

Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

That would be fine if it still took weeks or months to approach our shores. Also before we had a world economy. Sorry, you're wrong again.

 

[Contumacious]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

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[Remodeling Maidiac]

The reason I ask is the same one I had when President Obama was faced with this question. I honestly don't care. What happens in Syria doesn't have a damned thing to do with anyone in the US.

The truth about World War II was on the Eastern Front, there were no good guys. Hitler was a bad guy, and so was Stalin. Both were totalitarian dictators. Both were incredibly cruel to their own people, and those who were conquered. Both were brutal. And both sides committed atrocities. There were no good guys on the Eastern Front, there was only one difference. Hitler was our enemy, Stalin was our ally. Political happenstance just made it so the enemy of our enemy was to be our friend.

In Syria, there are no good guys. Assad is a bad guy, and the people fighting him are baddies too. The people in Eastern Europe couldn't tell you the difference between the brutalities and atrocities of the German Army compared to the brutalities and atrocities of the Russian Army. New management, same rules.

If you want to really slice the meat thin, you could argue that Hitler was a minuscule bit worse. But that meat would be nearly transparent to get to that level of thin. Even then it wouldn't be all that conclusive.

I don't think you can say that with Assad. No matter how bad he is, letting the Terrorists of ISIS or the FSA have control of Syria is even worse, if only marginally so.

So why should I care? Because people died? Is it far more moral to die from gunshots, concussion from explosives, shrapnel from bombs, starvation, malnutrition, dehydration, or disease? Children died before the gas attack in the war. Children died since from reasons totally unrelated to chemical weapons.

Dan Carlin has a podcast. It's called Hardcore History. One of his episodes is called Logical Insanity. He asks the question about Japan in World War II. Was it more moral to firebomb the cities than it was to drop the Atomic Bomb? He reads diary excerpts about how bad the firebombing was. How heartbreaking the reactions of the people were.

Dan Carlin is right. At what point does the suffering reach the limit? When does it reach ten on the scale, or eleven if you are a Spinal Tap fan? At what point has the population in a war simply reached the limit of suffering where nothing else could possibly make them suffer anymore?

I didn't care about Syrian gas attacks when Obama was President, and I voted for Obama. Why should I care now? My opinion then, as now is the same. The Russians are never going to pull out of Syria. Their only Navy base in the entire Mediterranean Sea is there. It would be as if our Naval Base in Italy was threatened, or if the Naval base in Gibralter for the British. Great Britain just had their territory of Gibralter threatened by the EU, and in response promised all out war to defend it. A postage stamp of a territory. Worth fighting for regardless.

So you outraged folks, tell me why I should care. Tell me why dying from shrapnel from bombs is somehow way more preferable to gas. Tell me why dying from starvation is better. Tell me why we should care.

One word, proliferation

 

[Manonthestreet]

GET IN THERE MAV.............
Before we bomb, bomb IRan.....I mean Syria shouldnt we get some facts first......look at all the warmongers......and they said Bachmann would bomb everyone geez

 

[Markle]

Europe (to where something like 70% of Americans at the time) is different than ME nations with a GDP that is not equal to some of our cities and states.

What does my reminding you that we have a world economy have to do with the barbaric use of chemical (believed to be the horrific gas Sarin) weapons against his own civilians.

Forgive me, it slipped my mind that things have to be explained in minute detail for Progressives. Either that or they feign ignorance.

Doing nothing with Syria and their use of Sarin gas encourages, no promotes the use of such gas by Iran, North Korea, ISIS, and any other bad guy to use the gas at will. We and the United Nations have told them we will whine, wring our hands and do nothing.

 

[Markle]

Now why would you conveniently leave that out?

Because he didn't have to ask Congress and was desperate to find a way to paint over the red line he drew in the sand.

 

[Contumacious]

Europe (to where something like 70% of Americans at the time) is different than ME nations with a GDP that is not equal to some of our cities and states.

What does my reminding you that we have a world economy have to do with the barbaric use of chemical (believed to be the horrific gas Sarin) weapons against his own civilians.

Forgive me, it slipped my mind that things have to be explained in minute detail for Progressives. Either that or they feign ignorance.

Doing nothing with Syria and their use of Sarin gas encourages, no promotes the use of such gas by Iran, North Korea, ISIS, and any other bad guy to use the gas at will. We and the United Nations have told them we will whine, wring our hands and do nothing.

Yo dingle berry , how did you conclude that it was Assad?


Who oppose Assad?


1- CIA
2- Israel
3- Saudi Arabia
4- Qatar
5- Turkey
5- Al Nusrah
6- ISIS
7-Al Qeda

All of them have SARIN GAS


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[Markle]

Bush and Reagan just outright lied about the basis for their acts of war.

Lie.

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
- President Clinton in 1998 “

[…], when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.”
- President Clinton , Jan. 27, 1998 – State of the Union

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 .

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqis nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.”

“Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

- President Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998


"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
- Madeline Albright, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "

Update: September 8, 2005 - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser was sentenced to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them..

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 .

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 .

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 .


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 .

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 .

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 .

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003" (Currently President Barack Hussein Obama’s Secretary of State)

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."
- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003


"Saddam is gone and good riddance," former President Bill Clinton said yesterday, but he urged President Bush to resist trying to get even with nations that opposed the war.


"There are German and French soldiers in Afghanistan today. Does the President want them to come home?" Clinton said at a Manhattan forum on corporate integrity.


Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)




He [President Clinton] praised Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for their handling of the war, but said Bush should have waited longer before attacking for the "chance that either [Saddam Hussein] would have disarmed or . . . we would have had far more members of the Security Council with us."


Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned weapons of mass destruction aren't found.


"I don't think you can criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. . . . That is what I was always told," Clinton said.

- Former President Clinton Wednesday, April 16, 2003

"Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" The vice president said he’d been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."

- Vice President Joe Biden (D) Feb. 10, 2010

How has the war President Barack Hussein Obama said we SHOULD have been fighting going? How is the Middle East going now that President Obama is President? Oh, Afghanistan just crossed 2,330 American fatalities. Seventy percent of whom died since President Obama took office.






And now the Obama administration wants to TAKE CREDIT for the Iraq war…whew….

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bottom line is, you don't support this Globalist Elite 'Permanent War' Agenda, you'll quickly be labelled an 'America-Hater.' We never had any business being in Syria. It was never a threat to the US. But here we are, getting set for full invasion. When will Americans demand an end to this Endless War?

We are? What do you know that apparently no one else seems to know?

 

[Markle]

That's pathetic. Syria was never a threat to the US. This is just another Bullshit war.

And we see how effective is your and petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama's policy has worked out. Total chaos and the use of Sarin gas. Horrific!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So I just proved you wrong and you changed the subject. How about you refute what I said instead?

So because Assad had chemical weapons he used them in 2012...that is your conclusion. That is nonsense.

He had chemical weapons he was not supposed to make or have... and reports from 3 different countries that investigated the attack said that the rockets were surface to surface from the Syrian government.

can I get a link to that? Just one would suffice. I would like to know which one it was. The rebels have captured ALOT of weapons from the Syrian govt.

No. They did not capture ALOT, because "alot" is not a word.

Awww how clever!

Making mistakes likes that just denigrates your level of intelligence to that of a typical liberal. You don't want or need that.

 

[RodISHI]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

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If that is the case are you saying this Islamist also works for Turkey, Saudi Arabs and Qatar? He evidently knew on March 26 and March 24, 2017 that there would be a chemical attack. He's begging for money. No actual dr. license as the UK pulled that when he and others were kidnapping journalist for extorting money.


dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

 

[Contumacious]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

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If that is the case are you saying this Islamist also works for Turkey, Saudi Arabs and Qatar? He evidently knew on March 26 and March 24, 2017 that there would be a chemical attack. He's begging for money. No actual dr. license as the UK pulled that when he and others were kidnapping journalist for extorting money.


dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

HUH?


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[RodISHI]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

.

If that is the case are you saying this Islamist also works for Turkey, Saudi Arabs and Qatar? He evidently knew on March 26 and March 24, 2017 that there would be a chemical attack. He's begging for money. No actual dr. license as the UK pulled that when he and others were kidnapping journalist for extorting money.


dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

HUH?


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The Islamist were asking for money on March 24 and 26 so they could protect themselves from gas attacks. They even made a video claiming they were under gas attack prior to anything happening on April 3rd or 4th. Who do you think this dude works for?

 

[Contumacious]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

.

If that is the case are you saying this Islamist also works for Turkey, Saudi Arabs and Qatar? He evidently knew on March 26 and March 24, 2017 that there would be a chemical attack. He's begging for money. No actual dr. license as the UK pulled that when he and others were kidnapping journalist for extorting money.


dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

HUH?


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The Islamist were asking for money on March 24 and 26 so they could protect themselves from gas attacks. They even made a video claiming they were under gas attack prior to anything happening on April 3rd or 4th. Who do you think this dude works for?

Do you have a link?

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[Markle]

Yo dingle berry , how did you conclude that it was Assad?

Syria chemical weapons attack toll rises to 70 as Russian narrative is dismissed
4/5/2017

Weapons expert says Russian claim that airstrike hit ‘terrorist warehouse’ in Idlib province is fanciful

At least 70 people have been killed in northern Syria after being exposed to a toxic gas that survivors said was dropped from warplanes, an attack that sparked comparisons to the most infamous act of the country’s six-year war.

At least another 100 people were being treated in hospitals in Idlib province where the strike took place at dawn on Tuesday. Several dozen others were transferred to Turkey, some in critical condition.

Condemnation mounted throughout Tuesday as the US, Britain and EU blamed the Syrian government for the carnage, hours before the start of a donor conference on Syria in Brussels.

Syria chemical weapons attack toll rises to 70 as Russian narrative is dismissed

 

[RodISHI]

You'll care, or you'll be labelled a dern 'America-Hater.' American Warmongers are so lost. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of this aggressive foreign interventionism. It's just wrong.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPLIED SARIN GAS TO THE "SYRIAN RESISTANCE"



a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad.

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If that is the case are you saying this Islamist also works for Turkey, Saudi Arabs and Qatar? He evidently knew on March 26 and March 24, 2017 that there would be a chemical attack. He's begging for money. No actual dr. license as the UK pulled that when he and others were kidnapping journalist for extorting money.


dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

HUH?


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The Islamist were asking for money on March 24 and 26 so they could protect themselves from gas attacks. They even made a video claiming they were under gas attack prior to anything happening on April 3rd or 4th. Who do you think this dude works for?

Do you have a link?

.

Read through the tweets. dr.shajulislam - Twitter Search

 

[RodISHI]

Yo dingle berry , how did you conclude that it was Assad?

Syria chemical weapons attack toll rises to 70 as Russian narrative is dismissed
4/5/2017

Weapons expert says Russian claim that airstrike hit ‘terrorist warehouse’ in Idlib province is fanciful

At least 70 people have been killed in northern Syria after being exposed to a toxic gas that survivors said was dropped from warplanes, an attack that sparked comparisons to the most infamous act of the country’s six-year war.

At least another 100 people were being treated in hospitals in Idlib province where the strike took place at dawn on Tuesday. Several dozen others were transferred to Turkey, some in critical condition.

Condemnation mounted throughout Tuesday as the US, Britain and EU blamed the Syrian government for the carnage, hours before the start of a donor conference on Syria in Brussels.

Syria chemical weapons attack toll rises to 70 as Russian narrative is dismissed

No one needs slander when the idiots expose themselves for what they are and your peace hating crew, Trump haters and Islamic terrorist and their lovers do exactly that.