Why "antifa"?

[Lesh]

Harris posted bail for PROTESTERS not rioters. Those are NOT the same thing

 

[d0gbreath]

Actually, Antifa definitely is a Democrat Party group. They used to be called "Occupy Wall Street", "Coffee Party" "SEIU" and "Weather Underground". Antifa is just their current moniker. Mayor Wheeler in Portland marched with them, and he is a devout Democrat.

This is really dumb.

 

[d0gbreath]

I love Antifa threads where everyone gets a chance to be an expert and spout what they think they know.

 

[schmidlap]

Trump toadies like to evoke antifa as one of their favorite scapegoats, and one of their Whataboutism evocation when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are mentioned.

One of the first people arrested was the leader of antifa.” — Trump defense attorny van der Veen​

Van der Veen was most likely referring to John E. Sullivan, a Utah man who was charged on Jan. 14 with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Sullivan, an activist, said he was there to film the siege. He had previously referred to antifa — a loosely affiliated group of antifascist activists that has no leader — on social media, but he has repeatedly denied being a member of the movement.​

The F.B.I. has said there is no evidence that supporters of the antifa movement had participated in the Capitol siege.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/us/politics/trump-impeachment-fact-check.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage“​

​

Antifa is not affiliated with President Biden, the Democratic Party or its leaders.

Biden has unequivocally condemned antifa and called violence "unacceptable."

... More broadly, Biden has also repeatedly condemned acts of violence and property destruction in the context of the wave of protests and unrest in 2020. For example, he did so twice in one particularly violent week during August 2020.​

​

On Aug. 26, 2020, after police in Kenosha, Wisconsin shot a Black man named Jacob Blake, Biden recorded a brief video message in which he said:​

​

“…Protesting brutality is a right, and absolutely necessary. But burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses and shutters businesses that serve the community. That’s wrong.”​

​

Has Biden Failed to Condemn Antifa?

"The problem is on the Left. And Biden refuses to talk about it," President Trump claimed in September 2020. Was he right?

www.snopes.com

​

If Trumpers are desperate for a Whataboutism scapegoat to evoke when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are cited, they might wish to consider the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, thoroughly disgusted with Trumpery.

I do not recall anyone saying Biden was pro antifa or vice versa.

It isnot a whataboutism it is in fact calling out the left for massive hypocrisy.

The past year we saw many cascading riots by BLM/ANTIFA and even a succesful overthrow of government.

The cause that BLM/ANTIFA are fighting for is no mor3e righteous or true than that of the MAGA crowd which stormed and rioted at the capitol.

Both were equally despicable and need to be condemned. But of course both sides excuse the violent and deadlhy rioting which they support. Peftists are the worst offenders at this. They minimize, excuse , trivialize and rationalize the violence from the left. They claim BLM/ANTIFA are not the same thing which is true but they did in fact team up. They claim that these people were fighting for civil rights they were NOT.

If you are honest and not a hypocrite you will loudly condemn both the MAGA rioters and the BLM/ANTIFA rioters equally.

If you are a two faced liar like Kamela Harris you will post bail for one violent group but not the other.

If you are unaware of the lies attempting to tie antifa to Biden and/or the Democratic Party, you have not missed anything of merit.

Condemning Trump's goons' recent violent insurrection against the United States government to prevent the certification of a democratic election in no way constitutes an endorsement of any violence against the public anywhere by anyone.

Antifa is an extremist, anarchist, anti-capitalist movement that is opposes both political parties. Their violence has been unequivocally condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike, by President Biden and Speaker Pelosi among others.

BLM is a social protest movement, and whenever a fringe element has perpetrated violence, it has been condemned, and rightly so.

Suggesting a false equivalency among these or other diverse activists refuses to acknowledge the significant respective differences.

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project analyzed more than 7,750 BLM demonstrations in all 50 states and D.C.

time.com

I hasten to note that neither all who listened to Trump's lie that he had won the election in a landslide, nor even all who swallowed it, participated in the violent insurrection against our government.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump toadies like to evoke antifa as one of their favorite scapegoats, and one of their Whataboutism evocation when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are mentioned.

One of the first people arrested was the leader of antifa.” — Trump defense attorny van der Veen​

Van der Veen was most likely referring to John E. Sullivan, a Utah man who was charged on Jan. 14 with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Sullivan, an activist, said he was there to film the siege. He had previously referred to antifa — a loosely affiliated group of antifascist activists that has no leader — on social media, but he has repeatedly denied being a member of the movement.​

The F.B.I. has said there is no evidence that supporters of the antifa movement had participated in the Capitol siege.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/us/politics/trump-impeachment-fact-check.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage“​

​

Antifa is not affiliated with President Biden, the Democratic Party or its leaders.

Biden has unequivocally condemned antifa and called violence "unacceptable."

... More broadly, Biden has also repeatedly condemned acts of violence and property destruction in the context of the wave of protests and unrest in 2020. For example, he did so twice in one particularly violent week during August 2020.​

​

On Aug. 26, 2020, after police in Kenosha, Wisconsin shot a Black man named Jacob Blake, Biden recorded a brief video message in which he said:​

​

“…Protesting brutality is a right, and absolutely necessary. But burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses and shutters businesses that serve the community. That’s wrong.”​

​

Has Biden Failed to Condemn Antifa?

"The problem is on the Left. And Biden refuses to talk about it," President Trump claimed in September 2020. Was he right?

www.snopes.com

​

If Trumpers are desperate for a Whataboutism scapegoat to evoke when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are cited, they might wish to consider the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, thoroughly disgusted with Trumpery.

Who the fuck is burning down cities?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump toadies like to evoke antifa as one of their favorite scapegoats, and one of their Whataboutism evocation when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are mentioned.

One of the first people arrested was the leader of antifa.” — Trump defense attorny van der Veen​

Van der Veen was most likely referring to John E. Sullivan, a Utah man who was charged on Jan. 14 with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Sullivan, an activist, said he was there to film the siege. He had previously referred to antifa — a loosely affiliated group of antifascist activists that has no leader — on social media, but he has repeatedly denied being a member of the movement.​

The F.B.I. has said there is no evidence that supporters of the antifa movement had participated in the Capitol siege.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/us/politics/trump-impeachment-fact-check.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage“​

​

Antifa is not affiliated with President Biden, the Democratic Party or its leaders.

Biden has unequivocally condemned antifa and called violence "unacceptable."

... More broadly, Biden has also repeatedly condemned acts of violence and property destruction in the context of the wave of protests and unrest in 2020. For example, he did so twice in one particularly violent week during August 2020.​

​

On Aug. 26, 2020, after police in Kenosha, Wisconsin shot a Black man named Jacob Blake, Biden recorded a brief video message in which he said:​

​

“…Protesting brutality is a right, and absolutely necessary. But burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses and shutters businesses that serve the community. That’s wrong.”​

​

Has Biden Failed to Condemn Antifa?

"The problem is on the Left. And Biden refuses to talk about it," President Trump claimed in September 2020. Was he right?

www.snopes.com

​

If Trumpers are desperate for a Whataboutism scapegoat to evoke when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are cited, they might wish to consider the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, thoroughly disgusted with Trumpery.

I do not recall anyone saying Biden was pro antifa or vice versa.

It isnot a whataboutism it is in fact calling out the left for massive hypocrisy.

The past year we saw many cascading riots by BLM/ANTIFA and even a succesful overthrow of government.

The cause that BLM/ANTIFA are fighting for is no mor3e righteous or true than that of the MAGA crowd which stormed and rioted at the capitol.

Both were equally despicable and need to be condemned. But of course both sides excuse the violent and deadlhy rioting which they support. Peftists are the worst offenders at this. They minimize, excuse , trivialize and rationalize the violence from the left. They claim BLM/ANTIFA are not the same thing which is true but they did in fact team up. They claim that these people were fighting for civil rights they were NOT.

If you are honest and not a hypocrite you will loudly condemn both the MAGA rioters and the BLM/ANTIFA rioters equally.

If you are a two faced liar like Kamela Harris you will post bail for one violent group but not the other.

If you are unaware of the lies attempting to tie antifa to Biden and/or the Democratic Party, you have not missed anything of merit.

Condemning Trump's goons' recent violent insurrection against the United States government to prevent the certification of a democratic election in no way constitutes an endorsement of any violence against the public anywhere by anyone.

Antifa is an extremist, anarchist, anti-capitalist movement that is opposes both political parties. Their violence has been unequivocally condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike, by President Biden and Speaker Pelosi among others.

BLM is a social protest movement, and whenever a fringe element has perpetrated violence, it has been condemned, and rightly so.

Suggesting a false equivalency among these or other diverse activists refuses to acknowledge the significant respective differences.

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project analyzed more than 7,750 BLM demonstrations in all 50 states and D.C.

time.com

I hasten to note that neither all who listened to Trump's lie that he had won the election in a landslide, nor even all who swallowed it, participated in the violent insurrection against our government.

Sure the dumb negroes have

 

[Soupnazi630]

Trump toadies like to evoke antifa as one of their favorite scapegoats, and one of their Whataboutism evocation when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are mentioned.

One of the first people arrested was the leader of antifa.” — Trump defense attorny van der Veen​

Van der Veen was most likely referring to John E. Sullivan, a Utah man who was charged on Jan. 14 with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Sullivan, an activist, said he was there to film the siege. He had previously referred to antifa — a loosely affiliated group of antifascist activists that has no leader — on social media, but he has repeatedly denied being a member of the movement.​

The F.B.I. has said there is no evidence that supporters of the antifa movement had participated in the Capitol siege.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/us/politics/trump-impeachment-fact-check.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage“​

​

Antifa is not affiliated with President Biden, the Democratic Party or its leaders.

Biden has unequivocally condemned antifa and called violence "unacceptable."

... More broadly, Biden has also repeatedly condemned acts of violence and property destruction in the context of the wave of protests and unrest in 2020. For example, he did so twice in one particularly violent week during August 2020.​

​

On Aug. 26, 2020, after police in Kenosha, Wisconsin shot a Black man named Jacob Blake, Biden recorded a brief video message in which he said:​

​

“…Protesting brutality is a right, and absolutely necessary. But burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses and shutters businesses that serve the community. That’s wrong.”​

​

Has Biden Failed to Condemn Antifa?

"The problem is on the Left. And Biden refuses to talk about it," President Trump claimed in September 2020. Was he right?

www.snopes.com

​

If Trumpers are desperate for a Whataboutism scapegoat to evoke when Trump's neo-nazi, proud boys, boogaloo, q-anon, oath keepers, three percenters and other rightist goons are cited, they might wish to consider the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, thoroughly disgusted with Trumpery.

I do not recall anyone saying Biden was pro antifa or vice versa.

It isnot a whataboutism it is in fact calling out the left for massive hypocrisy.

The past year we saw many cascading riots by BLM/ANTIFA and even a succesful overthrow of government.

The cause that BLM/ANTIFA are fighting for is no mor3e righteous or true than that of the MAGA crowd which stormed and rioted at the capitol.

Both were equally despicable and need to be condemned. But of course both sides excuse the violent and deadlhy rioting which they support. Peftists are the worst offenders at this. They minimize, excuse , trivialize and rationalize the violence from the left. They claim BLM/ANTIFA are not the same thing which is true but they did in fact team up. They claim that these people were fighting for civil rights they were NOT.

If you are honest and not a hypocrite you will loudly condemn both the MAGA rioters and the BLM/ANTIFA rioters equally.

If you are a two faced liar like Kamela Harris you will post bail for one violent group but not the other.

If you are unaware of the lies attempting to tie antifa to Biden and/or the Democratic Party, you have not missed anything of merit.

Condemning Trump's goons' recent violent insurrection against the United States government to prevent the certification of a democratic election in no way constitutes an endorsement of any violence against the public anywhere by anyone.

Antifa is an extremist, anarchist, anti-capitalist movement that is opposes both political parties. Their violence has been unequivocally condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike, by President Biden and Speaker Pelosi among others.

BLM is a social protest movement, and whenever a fringe element has perpetrated violence, it has been condemned, and rightly so.

Suggesting a false equivalency among these or other diverse activists refuses to acknowledge the significant respective differences.

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project analyzed more than 7,750 BLM demonstrations in all 50 states and D.C.

time.com

I hasten to note that neither all who listened to Trump's lie that he had won the election in a landslide, nor even all who swallowed it, participated in the violent insurrection against our government.

Anitfa is an extremist violent overwhelmingly communist organization as opposed to anarchist. BLM is not a social movement it is a violent racist movement and often did join forces with antifa. Most of BLM and or Antifa protests were violent riots.

It is not a false eeuivelancy both are equally reprehensble and yes the left supports one while condeming the other.

 

[schmidlap]

Who the fuck is burning down cities?

Please identify the cities that have been "burned down" as well as any national political leaders or political parties that have indicated approval of whomever you imagine has burned them down.

Are you claiming that antifa has burned them down and that some politicians or parties have supported that?

 

[daveman]

“The F.B.I. has said there is no evidence that supporters of the antifa movement had participated in the Capitol siege.” ibid

Yet conservatives will continue to ignore this fact and advance the lie that ‘antifa’ was somehow ‘involved.’

The dishonest right will also attempt to use ‘antifa’ in an effort to deflect from acts of rightwing violence and terrorism.

And conservatives will make the false comparison that ‘antifa’ is somehow ‘the same’ as rightwing hate and terrorist organizations, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Nobody believes your bullshit Commie propaganda.

 

[Rumpboogie]

Dear schmidlap or schitlap or whatever your name is: All I need to know is that BLM/Antifa were responsible for the violent riots in Portland while the Democrat MSM didn't say a word about that violence other than to lie in our faces and call them "mostly peaceful" while buildings burned in the background and the Democrat governor and mayor never lifted a finger to stop it just because they thought that violence would hurt Trump. That's all I need to know. Democrats supportd them, therefore they are Democrat organiztions. Period, end of discussion. Be as utterly stupid as you want about that, but keep on with your stupidity and I am going to IGNORE you.

 

[DudleySmith]

First off, the FBI lost all credibility when they covered up Hillary's treason, destroying evidence of her felonies, and then they got caught fabricating false info for Obama to illegally wiretap Trump during an election campaign. So, you have zero credibility right off the bat. No need to read beyond where you invoke the FBI and NYT, since you shot your own credibility down.

Your Trumpy lies are particularly pathetic, not only for their reliance on the mindless paranoid dogma spewed at you, but for their implication that, were there anything substantive in them, your Cry Baby Loser had four years to appoint toadies to realize the strident chant in which he led his goons at his pep rally jamborees -"Lock her up! Lock her up!"

No such charges were ever contrived, despite Cry Baby Loser's ample opportunity to fulfill his goons' ardent desire.

If you are unable to accept that your Cry Baby Loser lied to you, you will just have to extend your paranoid notion that everybody is mean to your Cry Baby Loser, including his own incompetent administration.

Boo hoo.

You can't even troll well, tard. You got nothing but what some Hive fed you, and you're not bright enough to do your own homework, but then you're just another traitor and cop killer fan, so we have lower than low expectations from your ilk anyway.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Harris posted bail for PROTESTERS not rioters. Those are NOT the same thing

They were the same thing which is why they were arrested.

She is a fucking hpocrrite who suppoerts racism and violence

 

[Vel]

Beijing Biden and the DNC wrapped their arms around Antifa whenever they were politically useful to them.

You have not attempted to substantiate your blatant lie with any credible evidence. Antifa is an anarchistic movement opposed to both parties and has been unambiguously condemned by Biden, Pelosi, and others. No Democrat (or Republican) has mewled that anifa has "good people" in it as Cry Baby Loser claimed regarding his fanatical neo-nazi supporters.

Trump bum kissers' fake claims have been exposed.

Trump's most fervent followers are beginning to claim that the mob that overran the Capitol on Wednesday were not MAGA supporters, but instead were Antifa 'masquerading' as the president's backers.​

​

Matt Gaetz... told the House he did not believe they were Trump supporters who stormed the building.​

​

He declared there was 'some pretty compelling evidence from a facial recognition company showing that some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters, but were masquerading as Trump supporters, and in fact were members of the violent terrorist group Antifa.'..​

​

[Laura Ingraham] said the behavior was incompatible with Trump supporters.​

​

'Actions we saw today do not represent this movement,' she told her viewers. 'The Washington Times is reporting today that at least two Antifa were spotted in the crowd.' ​

​

Sarah Palin spoke to Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum on Wednesday evening, and joined in the chorus.​

​

'We don't know who all were the instigators in these horrible things that happened today, I think a lot of it is the Antifa folks,' she claimed, citing 'pictures' sent to her...​

​

Gaetz claims MAGA mob was Antifa 'masquerading as Trump supporters'

​

​

Fact-check: Did antifa storm Capitol Hill?​

​

Not long after Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton addressed a large "Save America" rally of Trump loyalists outside the White House on Wednesday, they marched on the Capitol and breached the building as Congress sought to ratify President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory. ​

But Paxton had his own ideas about the mob carrying pro-Trump flags and signs. ​

​

On Thursday morning, he took to Facebook to advance a conspiracy theory that the people who overtook the Capitol were not Trump supporters, but members of antifa. ​

​

“Those who stormed the capitol yesterday were not Trump supporters. They have been confirmed to be Antifa,” Paxton wrote.​

​

Fact-check: Did antifa storm Capitol Hill?

​

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In the aftermath of Trump goons' deadly insurrection, many Trump goons who were apprehended openly cited their Trump's words as their defense of their anti-American riot.

The Cry Baby Loser's fake pretense has failed.

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FBI: No evidence antifa involved in Capitol riot

No evidence has been found that members of the left-wing antifa movement were involved in this week’s storming of the Capitol building, the FBI said Friday, contradicting a narrative push…

thehill.com

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"Well, never mind, then!
Them goobers looks like BLM to me!"
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Blah blah blah... Are you done rambling? Credible evidence? We spent all summer and fall watching democrats refuse to denounce Antifa's violence. We even saw the democrat mayor refer to their antics as perhaps the beginning of the summer of love. Unlike you, I don't need to post other people's opinions to validate my own.

 

[Lesh]

They were the same thing which is why they were arrested.

They absolutely are not.

Most BLM protests were held in daylight hours and Most riots occurred at night.

Trump's goons were sweeping people up off the streets randomly and the bail donations were for THEM

Say it ain't so if you want...but your folks "just say shit" all the time

 

[Lesh]

We spent all summer and fall watching democrats refuse to denounce Antifa's violence.

Bullshit. Give me a name and I'll find quotes of them condemning violence

 

[Vel]

We spent all summer and fall watching democrats refuse to denounce Antifa's violence.

Bullshit. Give me a name and I'll find quotes of them condemning violence

People can use whatever words they wish but their actions, such as providing bail money for rioters, speak to the truth of what they supported. Democrats loved them some Antifa that is until they started seeing some bad polling. Even then, they allowed them to continue to wreak havoc.

 

[Soupnazi630]

They were the same thing which is why they were arrested.

They absolutely are not.

Most BLM protests were held in daylight hours and Most riots occurred at night.

Trump's goons were sweeping people up off the streets randomly and the bail donations were for THEM

Say it ain't so if you want...but your folks "just say shit" all the time

The BLM protests and riots were one and the same with the same people just waiting for the dark,.

They absolutely are racist violent pigs,.

It was locakl cops protecting the public from violent racists. You are out of touch and a liar,

 

[Coyote]

Actually, Antifa definitely is a Democrat Party group. They used to be called "Occupy Wall Street", "Coffee Party" "SEIU" and "Weather Underground". Antifa is just their current moniker. Mayor Wheeler in Portland marched with them, and he is a devout Democrat.

Antifa preceded Occupy Wallstreet. They aren't the same. Antifa has its roots in opposing Mussolini.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Actually, Antifa definitely is a Democrat Party group. They used to be called "Occupy Wall Street", "Coffee Party" "SEIU" and "Weather Underground". Antifa is just their current moniker. Mayor Wheeler in Portland marched with them, and he is a devout Democrat.

Antifa preceded Occupy Wallstreet. They aren't the same. Antifa has its roots in opposing Mussolini.

Yes and they have evolved into fascists

 

[Lesh]

The BLM protests and riots were one and the same with the same people just waiting for the dark,.

Thanks for your bullshit racist opinion. That's ALL it is