Why Are Republicans So Relentlessly Cruel to the Poor?

[hadit]

While others would tell you it's lack of exercise. When we were kids we ate crap as well, but we didn't spend the day texting people and playing video games in front of the television. We walked to see our friends or rode our bikes. When we were kids, I bet we got mores exercise in one day than most kids today get in a week.

No dietary plan works for all people because each situation is unique.


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Yes, that's part of it too, and getting kids involved in sport is essential, again, part of educating kids into liking and understanding healthy food and also sport and exercise.

It's not about a one size fits all, it's about giving kids the motivation to keep themselves healthy, the knowledge so they can do it easily and perhaps a push with something like much higher taxes for bad food and no taxes for healthier food.

here we go again

more ham handed social engineering via taxes

taxes are only to be used to fund the necessary function of government not to punish people for behavior that you don't like

Food gets taxed, right? Ever wondered why milk is often cheaper than bottled water and other such weird pricing? Why shouldn't society try and make things more attractive?

I mean, the govt does this ALL THE TIME, especially in America with large corporations paying almost no tax as an "incentive" for them to locate or not relocate. The right doesn't have a problem with this, in fact they actively encourage it. But do it with good food or whatever and they suddenly get all jumpy.

food doesn't get taxed in my state
only idiots buy bottled water

it's not up to "society" to coerce people to do anything other than obey the law.

and really just because governemnt does shit like this all the time doesn't make it right it merely becomes accepted by people like you. you know people with a desire to control other people for their own good

Some states have food not taxed, other I believe have healthy food not taxed.

Well, it is up to society to coerce people to do things, it happens ALL THE TIME. So many decisions are made by government where this happens.

So you don't want to control people for their own good? You don't want laws against murder? Laws against stealing? Laws against violence?

You're an anarchist then!

Every example you gave are laws that address harm done to OTHER people, not harm done to themselves. Next.

Here's a hint you might want to try. Motorcycle helmet laws.

 

[JoeNormal]

Seems like a third-world solution. With the rapid pace of change in the world today, some people will be able to keep up better than others. I like that there's at least some sort of safety net although I wouldn't mind seeing workfare rather than welfare.

so you really think that most states federal money?

If the federal government didn't take as much from the people the money could stay in their own states and wouldn't come with all kinds of strings attached

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

 

[JoeNormal]

so you really think that most states federal money?

If the federal government didn't take as much from the people the money could stay in their own states and wouldn't come with all kinds of strings attached

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are strictly numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

 

[Flopper]

Well it doesn't always work like that. I appreciate how you'd love life to be so simple, but it's not.

Quite true. So when people make bad decisions, how is that my responsibility?

It's not your responsibility but that doesn't mean that their bad choices will not hurt you in one or another. When bad things happen in society we can say not my problem and watch the community slowly fall apart or we can do something even thou it is not our responsibility.

It's not my responsibility. I take steps to protect myself and then the others fall. You build your community out of like minded folks and keep the others out.

So you build your community out of people like yourself and keep others out. Exactly, where is this mythical community?

 

[rightwinger]

Seems like a third-world solution. With the rapid pace of change in the world today, some people will be able to keep up better than others. I like that there's at least some sort of safety net although I wouldn't mind seeing workfare rather than welfare.

so you really think that most states federal money?

If the federal government didn't take as much from the people the money could stay in their own states and wouldn't come with all kinds of strings attached

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

and we the people empowered trump and the GOP to do our governing. So why is it you feel the dems should have some stronghold because of their gigantic losses.

We the People voted against him

 

[Dschrute3]

And the next step would of course be 'Extermination.' Y'all do sound like Nazis. Sorry, but you do.

How do you live with yourself with so much hate and bitterness in your heart?

Speaking of Nazi's and your love for Socialism, you must fully embrace this truth.

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed too much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

 

[jc456]

so you really think that most states federal money?

If the federal government didn't take as much from the people the money could stay in their own states and wouldn't come with all kinds of strings attached

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

and we the people empowered trump and the GOP to do our governing. So why is it you feel the dems should have some stronghold because of their gigantic losses.

We the People voted against him

I thought you knew it was a republic and 'we the people' won!

 

[jc456]

And the next step would of course be 'Extermination.' Y'all do sound like Nazis. Sorry, but you do.

How do you live with yourself with so much hate and bitterness in your heart?

Speaking of Nazi's and your love for Socialism, you must fully embrace this truth.

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

or not

 

[rightwinger]

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

and we the people empowered trump and the GOP to do our governing. So why is it you feel the dems should have some stronghold because of their gigantic losses.

We the People voted against him

I thought you knew it was a republic and 'we the people' won!

The people of Russia won

 

[jc456]

And the next step would of course be 'Extermination.' Y'all do sound like Nazis. Sorry, but you do.

How do you live with yourself with so much hate and bitterness in your heart?

Speaking of Nazi's and your love for Socialism, you must fully embrace this truth.

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed to much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

dude you have some really vicious ideas on the poor. I think we can all agree in here that it is actually you who has the problem with the poor. you have far more ideas on how to eliminate them then we could ever come up with. Nice that you took the time to layout the demise of the poor.

 

[jc456]

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

and we the people empowered trump and the GOP to do our governing. So why is it you feel the dems should have some stronghold because of their gigantic losses.

We the People voted against him

I thought you knew it was a republic and 'we the people' won!

The people of Russia won

when did they vote? and how did they get ballots in our states?

BTW, you are the most unamerican punk in here. how white that you can't concede your stupid candidate lost fair and square. shame

 

[francoHFW]

Not stupid, dupe. 35 YEARS of Reaganism=DUHHHHH...

Actually Reagan was for limited govt. Since Reagan govt has gotten 4 times bigger. See what happens when you drop out of HS?

no he wasn't

Reagan expanded the size scope and cost of government as much as anyone every republican president in my lifetime has done the same

You have confused what happened when Reagan was president with Reaganism. Franco dropped out and does not know that Reagan favored limited government.

Actual, I have a Masters in History and you believe a pile of Pubcrappe- All they have.

for someone with a Masters you are very bad at conveying thoughts via written speech
it's because you have no thoughts all you have are the talking points that have been spoon fed to you

Nah. I can also do that in fluent French and to a lesser extent Spanish. I blame my lack of typing skill and interest. Much info in few words, yes. "a pile of Pubcrappe- All they have."

 

[Dschrute3]

And the next step would of course be 'Extermination.' Y'all do sound like Nazis. Sorry, but you do.

How do you live with yourself with so much hate and bitterness in your heart?

Speaking of Nazi's and your love for Socialism, you must fully embrace this truth.

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed to much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

dude you have some really vicious ideas on the poor. I think we can all agree in here that it is actually you who has the problem with the poor. you have far more ideas on how to eliminate them then we could ever come up with. Nice that you took the time to layout the demise of the poor.

Dude, y'all Nazis are currently routinely arresting and imprisoning our poor homeless. You arrest them for simply being poor. So i have no illusions about who you folks are. You do subscribe to Nazi beliefs and attitudes.

If you all are ever allowed too much power, our poor will likely by rounded up in masses for imprisonment and possibly 'Extermination.' I just hope Americans are smart enough to never allow you such power. One Nazi Holocaust is enough.

 

[jc456]

How do you live with yourself with so much hate and bitterness in your heart?

Speaking of Nazi's and your love for Socialism, you must fully embrace this truth.

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed to much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

dude you have some really vicious ideas on the poor. I think we can all agree in here that it is actually you who has the problem with the poor. you have far more ideas on how to eliminate them then we could ever come up with. Nice that you took the time to layout the demise of the poor.

Dude, y'all Nazis are currently routinely arresting and imprisoning our poor homeless. You arrest them for simply being poor. So i have no illusions about who you folks are. You do subscribe to Nazi beliefs and attitudes.

If you all are ever allowed too much power, our poor will likely by rounded up in masses for imprisonment and possibly 'Extermination.' I just hope Americans are smart enough to never allow you such power. One Nazi Holocaust is enough.

you should stick to your own lame ideas about the poor and leave the rest of us alone. thanks for again demonstrating your entire hate at the poor. nice backfire.

 

[francoHFW]

And don't forget the ridiculously high FEES we've been hit with the last 35 years either. "Must save the rich!"

what fees?

and state fees don't count because not everyone pays the same ones

THEY'RE ALL HIGHER, IDIOT. LOL
Car licensing, BUSINESS licensing, etc etc. WTF is WRONG WITH YOU , dupe? The crap you complain about without thinking about who's at the bottom of it. GOP dupes like YOU. LOLARGHHHHH.

my car registration fees haven't gone up in over 10 years so you see why talking about state fees is a waste of time?
I have paid the same exact business entity since we opened so that hasn't gone up either so do you see why talking state fees is a waste of time?

That really depends on the state. The registration fee for my cars almost doubled this year due to funding of rapid transit and various road improvement programs.

which is why I have been saying that adding state and local taxes and fees is adding to many variables to the discussion

It's all taxes, and state and local taxes and fees which kill the nonrich have been rising greatly as the New BS GOP cuts fed taxes, especially on the rich. >>>demise of middle class.

Redirect Notice
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income.

 

[rightwinger]

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

and we the people empowered trump and the GOP to do our governing. So why is it you feel the dems should have some stronghold because of their gigantic losses.

We the People voted against him

I thought you knew it was a republic and 'we the people' won!

The people of Russia won

when did they vote? and how did they get ballots in our states?

BTW, you are the most unamerican punk in here. how white that you can't concede your stupid candidate lost fair and square. shame

Russian sycophant

Up to 5 million "Russians" voted for Trump......Believe me

 

[francoHFW]

no he wasn't

Reagan expanded the size scope and cost of government as much as anyone every republican president in my lifetime has done the same

You have confused what happened when Reagan was president with Reaganism. Franco dropped out and does not know that Reagan favored limited government.

That's why he tripled the debt and grew gov't more than anyone in history, dupiscimus...

he was president not God. If you hadn't dropped out you would know that. Also if he grew govt so much then as a standard libcommie you should love him?? Getting to complicated for you?

Libs cut gov't and add services that cost nothing in the end, dupissimus ignoramus.

no "service" performed by the government costs nothing in fact everything the government does costs more than it would if the private sector did it

Balogna. I was thinking of paid parental leave- all I want after ACA...

 

[Dschrute3]

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed to much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

dude you have some really vicious ideas on the poor. I think we can all agree in here that it is actually you who has the problem with the poor. you have far more ideas on how to eliminate them then we could ever come up with. Nice that you took the time to layout the demise of the poor.

Dude, y'all Nazis are currently routinely arresting and imprisoning our poor homeless. You arrest them for simply being poor. So i have no illusions about who you folks are. You do subscribe to Nazi beliefs and attitudes.

If you all are ever allowed too much power, our poor will likely by rounded up in masses for imprisonment and possibly 'Extermination.' I just hope Americans are smart enough to never allow you such power. One Nazi Holocaust is enough.

you should stick to your own lame ideas about the poor and leave the rest of us alone. thanks for again demonstrating your entire hate at the poor. nice backfire.

Like i said, i have no illusions about who you are. You despise the poor. You would 'Disappear' them in a heartbeat if you could. I mean, you're currently arresting our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You're very bad folks. Americans should never allow y'all too much power. We don't need another Nazi reign of terror.

 

[francoHFW]

Hey, i just observe and report. And most of you greedy Republicans do sound like Nazis. I really do believe y'all would fully support passing laws making being poor a crime. If you could, you'd lock em all away in prison forever. Y'all really do need to do some serious soul-searching. Your mentality towards the least fortunate among us is pretty evil.

I realize you could never have learned this from the mainstream media in this country, but "observe and report" does NOT consist of spewing inflammatory insults with no basis in fact, but based solely on your belief that no insult is too extreme for someone who DARES to take the "eevil" position of disagreeing with you.

I'll search my soul when you engage your brain. Oh, wait, no I won't, because I have no interest whatsoever in the "morality" of the likes of you. The fact that you're incoherently and uselessly screaming, "Nazi! Hitler!" as a synonym for "person I don't like!" at me constitutes, in my eyes, proof that I'm doing everything exactly right. Except, perhaps, that I might want to do it twice as hard, just to enrage you even further.

Come on now, you know you would love to 'Disappear' them. They're 'Subhuman' to y'all. In fact in some areas of the country, y'all are systematically imprisoning the poor. You're rounding up our poor homeless and throwing them in cages to rot. You arrest them for merely being poor.

So you've already made being poor a crime in some areas. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe you'll be taking that further and further. If y'all are allowed to much power, 'Extermination' will likely be the end-game for you. You are pretty much Nazis. Sorry, but it is what it is.

dude you have some really vicious ideas on the poor. I think we can all agree in here that it is actually you who has the problem with the poor. you have far more ideas on how to eliminate them then we could ever come up with. Nice that you took the time to layout the demise of the poor.

Dude, y'all Nazis are currently routinely arresting and imprisoning our poor homeless. You arrest them for simply being poor. So i have no illusions about who you folks are. You do subscribe to Nazi beliefs and attitudes.

If you all are ever allowed too much power, our poor will likely by rounded up in masses for imprisonment and possibly 'Extermination.' I just hope Americans are smart enough to never allow you such power. One Nazi Holocaust is enough.

you should stick to your own lame ideas about the poor and leave the rest of us alone. thanks for again demonstrating your entire hate at the poor. nice backfire.

Pointing out RW hate of the poor is NOT hate of the poor, just as pointing out RW racism is not racism. Brainwashed drivel for dupes only, dupe. Unbelievable!

 

[hunarcy]

so you really think that most states federal money?

If the federal government didn't take as much from the people the money could stay in their own states and wouldn't come with all kinds of strings attached

I'm speaking from the perspective of the fucked up theocracy I live in (Utah). State government would fund what they consider their base (huge families and the LDS church) and leave everybody else out in the cold. At least with some federal government involvement, you have a broader base that receives the assistance.

It's not the role of the federal government to provide such assistance. The things that government is supposed to provide is listed in Article I and taxes are to be collected to pay for THOSE things.

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

People have forgotten we are a Republic and NOT a straight democracy. All it would take would be for everyone to have to pay income tax and they'd start to see the light.